1) held it back in the gate 2) Came wide and then ducked inside just when getting momentum 3) Even after all that trouble he did not get after the horse. He picked up the stick only at the 1f mark and give it some meaningless cracks when it would make no difference
I think he:-1) held it back in the gate2) Came wide and then ducked inside just when getting momentum3) Even after all that trouble he did not get after the horse. He picked up the stick only at the 1f mark and give it some meaningless cracks when
Hope the Stewards have a look, that really was a blatant pull. Have watched reruns and no other explanation other than Graham Lee successfully stopped the fav. He was still taking a pull at the furlong mark. Dreadful!
Hope the Stewards have a look, that really was a blatant pull. Have watched reruns and no other explanation other than Graham Lee successfully stopped the fav. He was still taking a pull at the furlong mark. Dreadful!
Serious accusations being made here. I am sure that, for the record, you all agree with me that it was jolly bad luck and the hoarse did not perform as the market expected!
Serious accusations being made here. I am sure that, for the record, you all agree with me that it was jolly bad luck and the hoarse did not perform as the market expected!
If he had stuck to the inner on the bend then fair enough, but he already committed to come wide around the turn, so the decision to cut back in is inexplicable
If he had stuck to the inner on the bend then fair enough, but he already committed to come wide around the turn, so the decision to cut back in is inexplicable
In 30 years of racing I have never seen anything as blatant as that. It is so obviously corrupt that the Stewards should suspend Lee's licence IMMEDIATELY pending an investigation.
Even Fallon is more subtle than that!
In 30 years of racing I have never seen anything as blatant as that. It is so obviously corrupt that the Stewards should suspend Lee's licence IMMEDIATELY pending an investigation.Even Fallon is more subtle than that!
It's stuff like this that sickens people from the sport. Bad enough missing the break that badly but switching inside when starting to roll and only a length off the eventual winner when he switched in to the traffic. Damage was done in the 1st furlong but switching inside was just brain dead stuff.Not as if he was riding Sole Power. When you have your horse rolling surely the shortest route home is in a straight line!!!!! Couldn't believe it when he switched inside. Little stuck up that. Never liked or trusted him and even less so now.
It's stuff like this that sickens people from the sport. Bad enough missing the break that badly but switching inside when starting to roll and only a length off the eventual winner when he switched in to the traffic. Damage was done in the 1st furlo
But these jockeys are untouchable, sorry but I really am perplexed at how some of these bastards haven't had their legs smashed in tbh, people lose money all the time because of this and yet they never have a scratch on them..... if this was Italy or France the jockey's dirty rides would land them 6 feet under.
Me too raspberryBut these jockeys are untouchable, sorry but I really am perplexed at how some of these bastards haven't had their legs smashed in tbh, people lose money all the time because of this and yet they never have a scratch on them..... if t
Mr Raspberrybottom- thanks for your support, I'll always wear it. Mr 1989-my opinion is that horse racing is as straight as the 7f course at Wolverhampton. And I think the term you are looking for in relation to your analogy is flaccid!
I hope this clarifies the matter.
Mr Raspberrybottom- thanks for your support, I'll always wear it.Mr 1989-my opinion is that horse racing is as straight as the 7f course at Wolverhampton. And I think the term you are looking for in relation to your analogy is flaccid!I hope this cla
Oh don't rely on them to be critical rewired, the jockey could of jumped off 100 yards from the line when 3l clear and they'd find a way not to be critical, their on the gravy train, and when your on the gravy train you keep fu cking quiet is their motto.
Oh don't rely on them to be critical rewired, the jockey could of jumped off 100 yards from the line when 3l clear and they'd find a way not to be critical, their on the gravy train, and when your on the gravy train you keep fu cking quiet is their m
There is no way any ex-jockey pundit is going to blackball that ride. They know what happened was indefensible but won't stick theiir heads above the parapet. Time punters got together in a club and took action against jockeys who perpetrate such a blatantly corrupt ride as Graham Lee did tonight. I don't make a habit of criticising jockeys, I usually defend them when they've been a bit inept, last jockey I criticised was either Graham Bradley, Dermot Browne or Kieron Fallon!
Wonder if any of the No Win No Fee operators would take it on?
There is no way any ex-jockey pundit is going to blackball that ride. They know what happened was indefensible but won't stick theiir heads above the parapet. Time punters got together in a club and took action against jockeys who perpetrate such a b
I agree with all these points , he definitely didn't want it to place never mind win . I was a fan of his and have met him in the past as he lives local to me seemed a really nice guy . However this ride is making me question if backing horses is worth while especially on the a.w , thinking about quitting completely or saving my pennies for meetings when every horse is trying (cheltenham etc). This is not me talking from my pocket as the horse in question was only part of a small stakes L15 .
I agree with all these points , he definitely didn't want it to place never mind win . I was a fan of his and have met him in the past as he lives local to me seemed a really nice guy . However this ride is making me question if backing horses is wor
He sure as hell rode that out to win, money was definatly down on that one, even made sure he wasn't too far behind off the bend, rode away a little 3 out as well, went wide, took it to the outside etc etc etc.
He sure as hell rode that out to win, money was definatly down on that one, even made sure he wasn't too far behind off the bend, rode away a little 3 out as well, went wide, took it to the outside etc etc etc.
Fellow Forumites: PLEASE do not allow Lee's successful ride on Hidden Talent to dilute the criticismo of his totally corrupt effeort on Seven Lucky Seven.. This was so obviously corrupt that there may be a way to get this arrogant fraudster before the Beak (criminal court not the BHA apologist versión). Any lawyers members of the Forum?
DO NOT LET THIS DROP
Fellow Forumites: PLEASE do not allow Lee's successful ride on Hidden Talent to dilute the criticismo of his totally corrupt effeort on Seven Lucky Seven.. This was so obviously corrupt that there may be a way to get this arrogant fraudster before
Is it too much to hope that the Memo of Understanding will be utilised to it's full extent as there must be a paper trail to what was the most obvious Fraud since Dermot 'The Needleman' Browne was bringing his syringe the racecourse stables?
Seriously doubt full disclosure will be forthcoming from the Big Boys!
Is it too much to hope that the Memo of Understanding will be utilised to it's full extent as there must be a paper trail to what was the most obvious Fraud since Dermot 'The Needleman' Browne was bringing his syringe the racecourse stables?Seriously
Something seen done by many...jockeys have to ride to instructions to continue to get the rides......
Wander what his trainer instructions were ...including the wink winks
even chose to find traffic deliberatelySomething seen done by many...jockeys have to ride to instructions to continue to get the rides......Wander what his trainer instructions were ...including the wink winks
who is culpable,him for the ride or Herrington for instructions? If he rode according to instructions then it was a peach.They ride for the connections not us. Racing for £2k I don't blame connections tearing the rear end out of it on here. Such racing that the BHA is happy to promote only encourages skullduggery. The fault lies with the BHA not connections.The racing isn't improving but when they catch one for an injudicious (crooked) ride give them 3 years,the jockey and trainer.After the first couple get warned off their might be a reassessment of winning purses and efforts to win them.
who is culpable,him for the ride or Herrington for instructions? If he rode according to instructions then it was a peach.They ride for the connections not us. Racing for £2k I don't blame connections tearing the rear end out of it on here. Such rac
Race 4 - 7:15pm THE DAILY PRICE BOOSTS AT UNIBET HANDICAP STAKES (CLASS 6) (DIV II)
No Stewards Enquiry. Graham Lee, the rider of SEVEN LUCKY SEVEN, unplaced, reported that the gelding was denied a clear run.
Race 4 - 7:15pm THE DAILY PRICE BOOSTS AT UNIBET HANDICAP STAKES (CLASS 6) (DIV II)No Stewards Enquiry.Graham Lee, the rider of SEVEN LUCKY SEVEN, unplaced, reported that the gelding was denied a clear run.
We all know that nothing is going to happen, no matter how blatant the misdemeanours are, the only people ever likely to get pulled for such actions are apprentices with little or no experience, so that they can just warn them as to their future behaviour and be seen to addressing such matters, even though we can all see with our own eyes that it is taking place more frequently than Thommo rattles his bucket.
We all know that nothing is going to happen, no matter how blatant the misdemeanours are, the only people ever likely to get pulled for such actions are apprentices with little or no experience, so that they can just warn them as to their future beha
Denied a clear run because you stuck up the a rses of fading horses you stupid bastard. Sorry but the BHA will never do anything, they are pretty toothless and a waste of space. it will have to be the punters who stand up and make a stand, but that wont happen either.
Denied a clear run because you stuck up the a rses of fading horses you stupid bastard. Sorry but the BHA will never do anything, they are pretty toothless and a waste of space. it will have to be the punters who stand up and make a stand, but that w
They banned an apprentice last week didn't they, a pretty hefty ban as well, yet Luke Morris gets away with sky high whipping, and McCoy gets away with much worse as well, a total joke.
They banned an apprentice last week didn't they, a pretty hefty ban as well, yet Luke Morris gets away with sky high whipping, and McCoy gets away with much worse as well, a total joke.
What is truly awful about this criminal act is that the racing journos/media will close ranks and protect the perpetrator.
Lee belongs in jail but guaranteed there won't be a word of criticism from any of the gravy train pundits. The best we can hope for will be a quizzical raised eyebrow from Sir Bob or total denial of any wrongdoing from Fitzy. Harvey and Weaver as punter guardians are a joke, a circus act.
Understandable, I suppose, they don't want to jeopardise their place at the banquet.
Sorry to have to say this but Racing stewardship stinks.
What is truly awful about this criminal act is that the racing journos/media will close ranks and protect the perpetrator.Lee belongs in jail but guaranteed there won't be a word of criticism from any of the gravy train pundits. The best we can hope
some of you guys need to be careful what yousay a public forum, you just cant accuse him of cheating like that have you read any report on the horse after this race
some of you guys need to be careful what yousay a public forum, you just cant accuse him of cheating like that have you read any report on the horse after this race
In his defence, he could possibly say he made a mistake going back inside where there was momentarily a gap which closed in front of him but what on earth was John Egans excuse in same race!
In his defence, he could possibly say he made a mistake going back inside where there was momentarily a gap which closed in front of him but what on earth was John Egans excuse in same race!
Race 4 - 7:15pm THE DAILY PRICE BOOSTS AT UNIBET HANDICAP STAKES (CLASS 6) (DIV II)
No Stewards Enquiry. Graham Lee, the rider of SEVEN LUCKY SEVEN, unplaced, reported that the gelding was denied a clear run.
He's not wrong is he!
Race 4 - 7:15pm THE DAILY PRICE BOOSTS AT UNIBET HANDICAP STAKES (CLASS 6) (DIV II)No Stewards Enquiry.Graham Lee, the rider of SEVEN LUCKY SEVEN, unplaced, reported that the gelding was denied a clear run.He's not wrong is he!