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ashleigh
25 Oct 14 07:44
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last to first on adelaide.
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Report attitude adjuster October 25, 2014 7:48 AM BST
a masterclass
Report millhouse October 25, 2014 7:48 AM BST
Thought it was a shocker here Ashleigh - that horse must be as good as anything trained in Europe to win in those circumstances, imho...
Report Tinjakko October 25, 2014 7:48 AM BST
That was a fantastic ride!

Clearly realised that he was too far back as the field was so stretched, so started to make move earlier than he probably intended.

Didn't lose much ground by hugging the pack and timed it to perfection.

Blooming brilliant :-)
Report Tinjakko October 25, 2014 7:51 AM BST
Millhouse... Like the Simpson's character, I think you need glasses!
Report attitude adjuster October 25, 2014 7:52 AM BST
He's nearly...nearly smiling ShockedGrin
Report BJG October 25, 2014 8:04 AM BST
Stunning ride Cool
Report millhouse October 25, 2014 10:11 AM BST
If he'd been on a half length worse horse he'd have been crucified, imo...
Report Johnny_Mustang October 25, 2014 10:14 AM BST
Couldn't agree more Fozwald, you are spot-on with that critique.
Report 1stpost October 25, 2014 10:37 AM BST
Agree with Fozwald n millhouse....horse made it great...not the jockey
Report millhouse October 25, 2014 10:39 AM BST
Horse would have been at least second in the Arc on today's run, imho...
Report Castiron October 25, 2014 11:19 AM BST
Moonee Valley is a cambered track and if you have momentum, you can be out very wide and still win. Nothing wrong with his tactics.
Report megsy October 25, 2014 11:22 AM BST
moores ride was the best worst ride imaginable..lesser horse would have crumbled and moore would have been lynched..to be wound up 900m from home and still win is freakish...very very good colt....glad he is now staying in oz and being trained by Chris Waller in sydney Grin
Report megsy October 25, 2014 11:23 AM BST
exactly its known ( moonee valley ) as what we call a swoopers track
Report Millerracing67 October 25, 2014 11:46 AM BST
Been saying it for a few yrs now, Moore is the best on the Planet imo.
But, what the hell was crock Jim going on about on atr this morn about the use of the whip? Angry
Moore used his whip 6or7 times in the race, so what the hell was he getting at, idiot Crazy.
Why do some of our so-called racing people want to shot our Great sport of racing down ??
Esp when no rule was broken ? (even with our rules over here)
Get a grip Jim & the rest.
Report AdvantageAussie October 25, 2014 11:50 AM BST
> Moonee Valley is a cambered track and if you have momentum, you can
> be out very wide and still win. Nothing wrong with his tactics

As long as the pace is on, I doubt Adelaide could have sustained a 1000 metre run and come 8 wide round the home bend to win if the leaders had it easy in front and did not tire in the second half of the race.

It also helped his cause that his main challengers Fawlkner and Silent Achiever (Sacred Falls did not stay) were almost as wide has he was.
Report ima_mazed66 October 25, 2014 1:38 PM BST
Joseph O'Brien's ride on Australia in the Irish Champion Stakes would have been hailed a great ride too if he had managed to hold on and Ryan Moore would have been crucified here had he not been able to get up, that's how close the margins are.

In fairness to Moore though Adelaide wasn't drawn well and got away slowly where from a bad draw you either have to use up a lot of horse early on to get a position or you end up choosing to go wide to get a clear run or take the inside route and hope the gaps come for you, where you are then a genius or an idiot all depending on how your luck goes.

If Jamie Spence had given Adelaide that ride and been narrowly beaten then there would have been calls for him to retire now rather than wait and ironically Spencer has given Side Glance a decent ride here where he's had to use up a bit of horse early to gain a position and then mid-race lets him drop off the lead a little to get it a breather before having to be ridden again to close the gap when going for his finish, but ultimately he was beaten and so the good ride gets overlooked.
Report megsy October 26, 2014 1:06 AM BST
jockey error cost the 2nd horse victory on a horse that's usually up near the front on a track that was favouring on pace runners....what was you think ryan moore at the start and the pressure cooker run for home....certainty beaten

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmvc04ZqBA0
Report henryluca October 26, 2014 1:27 AM BST
IMO- Adelaide made its move at the 800 but started it run at the 550m

Confused Happy
Report ima_mazed66 October 26, 2014 1:58 AM BST
That "usually up near the front" tactic hasn't exactly been seen to be successful though has it megsy?
Report megsy October 26, 2014 2:18 AM GMT
I suggest you look at the horses performances at the start, been scrubbed up to keep in contact, was never going to have speed from the gate even if it jumped from the rails. selected Adelaide to win. I stated on the aussie formum during the week the horse would drop out and storm home.


still one of the 3 worsts rides in Australian history in a group 1...but slightly better than kinanes in 1994 Melbourne cup.
Report megsy October 26, 2014 2:18 AM GMT
meant, recent performances
Report megsy October 26, 2014 2:20 AM GMT
over the 2 racing days at moonee valley, especially Friday, the leaders didn't come back to the field and most on pacers figured in the finish yesterdat ( Saturday )
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