60,000 GNS - to sit in a box for 2 years - and then win - £1941

Don't know how much they lumped on it but will probably treble winnings by the end of the week.
Wasn't exactly a lot of imagination went into the naming of the beast either.

'They' - would, similarly, need something like 'tens of thousands' of Accounts - ALL, presumably, restricted to just a MAX of 60 pence - due to previous successes - to Win back the £60,000, though  ... let alone the rest of the total outlay, too.

well done onlooker. I recall you telling us this colt was over-priced at the time.

do you buy many yearlings?

How much matched on here though Onlooker times 3.

Would probably go for 60k+ after that win today anyway

Whilst acknowledging your acerbic comment - Royal Academy.

The thread is a reflection of the whole Yearling, and Bloodstock Market -
- and NOT JUST this individual example  - and it's, often, consequent impact - as in my opening sentence ....

"Is it all worth it?"

Unless, that is - You are a sharp Pinhooker ....

- or, should that read - a lucky one - as is more often the case, when a successful one comes off.

hi onlooker, it's stretching matters a little to suggest your post is a state-of-the-nation commentary on the yearling market.

I accept the market makes little sense financially if you approach from a certain angle. However, bear in mind its almost FORTY YEARS since a yearling transaction occurred in Keeneland for US$13.1m and I suggest your keyboard would be well worn out if you were to comment every time a subsequent disappointing events occur.

It's a rich man's game and the premium to play at a certain level is enormous and that's the genius of the market-makers.

Of course bear in mind the rewards for the few also overshadow the millions lost thanks to the "romance" of the game.

PS apologies for being a smartarse originally.

That money is feck all these days.

Just a days winnings to most of the dreamers who stalk this forum...

there are a few jump owners who wouldn't even blink at paying a 5 figure sum for a potentially decent hurdler.

Racing is the sport of kings, they say. Certainly, top owners need to be very rich in order to play.

Its economics never made much sense to a mere mortal like me. I've come to the conclusion that

there IS money to be made in the Bloodstock Industry

there is probably money to be made  on the gambling side IF using Exchanges and/or "underground, illegal betting media" in Asia and elsewhere.

Besides these money making machines, I would guess ( from having seen the jiffy bags) that rich folk have an awful lot of unaccounted cash slushing about in their funds. Just like drug barons and soccer players, they can afford to "lose" fairly large chunks of this.

Obviously, none will come on here and tell us the score, but that's the way I look at it.
Who knows?

That's it Sean, if you've got lot's of lolly you can afford to indulge !



Viz la viz... people with dosh have big egos !

Must admit when I first read the title of the thread, I thought it was going to be about in running players at Lingfield.

There is an enormous amount of mug-money about but it does mean that there is money to be made by the few clever ones most of whom are probably in the breeding industry. I presume Coolmore make a few quid out of it all.

onlooker , I would be very nervous if my life depended on that one fetching less than £60 ,000 right now. It looks quite a bit  better than it's rating and looks a real athletic type. If it was sold today I would guess around £100,000.

ThirdTimeLucky

Must admit when I first read the title of the thread, I thought it was going to be about in running players at Lingfield.

Classic

..... and at Lingfield to win £1941 they would have had to risk a couple of million.

As posted on my Al Shaqab Racing thread,Ya Hade Ye Delil cost 75,000gns as a foal and---- ---525,000gns as a yearling.Nice work.And it got beat yesterday in a class 4 maiden.

Thank you for your reply - RoyalAcamedy

An 'interesting one from today - 3:30 Pontefract - is - TASRIH.

Being, a good example of the 'Ups and Downs' of racehorse ownership.

TASRIH
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Sire:  Hard Spun (USA)   (8.0f)    Dam:  Rare Gift (USA)    Dam's sire:  Unbridled's Song (USA)   (8.0f)

$150,000 Y; second foal; dam US 1m2f Grade 3 winner, half-sister to winners in France and USA inc Studio (French 1m and 1m2f AW) out of US 8.5f Grade 2 winner

Originally bought for GODOLPHIN  for $150,000 Yearling -

- and put into training with SAEED BIN SUROOR - for whom it never made the racecourse

Transferred to JOHN FERGUSON - and into their Hurdle racing ownership project BLOOMFIELDS.... But, it must have shown no aptitude for Hurdles - or, more likely, an inability to get anywhere near staying 2 miles, even - and it never made the racecourse

SOLD at Doncaster Sales to ALAN McCABE for 22,000 GBP  Tom Malone/A McCabe     07Aug13 Dbs

After finishing 15th of 16  on it's debut at Redcar - it was switched to POLYTRACK, no doubt due to it's ALL American pedigree.

Won an All-Weather Maiden on it's second Polytrack outing, and then a Class 4 Handicap, at Kempton, later.

Finished last on next 3 outings - having been sent off Fav for the first of them - before popping up in a 6-runner race at Southwell.

Reverted to dismal displays ever since - including finishing Tailed-Off, with Cheekpieces tried, at Pontefract, today.

I remember being in a jumps racing club away back where the club had bought a horse from Stoute for around 20k that had originally cost the owner over half a mil as a well bred yearling.

he had a middle distance pedigree and had never raced so we thought we had picked up a gem really cheaply. 

turned out the horse hated racing and tried to pull himself up at every hurdle, losing between 6 and 10 lengths at every flight.

in the end we cut our losses and gave him away to the lass in the stable who looked after him and the club replaced him with another less than stellar horse that never won a race.

that was the end of my racing club days.

Racing clubs are for gypsies, really. If you can't afford to own the horse outright, or joint-own it, then you should be forbidden from getting involved as it only creates delusions of grandeur.

Well, several on btfr forum seem to have the delusions already, Johnny, imo.

Getting back to these rich Qatari s ( who are loaded and can afford to back both the USA AND her Middle East enemies) I don't think money is an issue. Those guys, who seem very pleasant and affable, are rich playboys. Vanity would make them want to outplay other rich Arabs, but I doubt whether they'll ever get the better of Irish , British, and American, bloodstock outfits.

Point is about pedigree and breeding, 'tis the dam's genes that have the most impact ( 60:40). Most dudes look only to the sire. The mares are key.
Well, this is the case with standardbreds ( trotters and pacers). I guess it also applies to thoroughbreds.
As ever, the thing is shrouded in mystery - like most money-making rackets, imo.

The old saying about when serious about a Girl ALWAYS have a look to see how the Dam turned out..

Exactly ,I'm lucky in that respect as I could be married to quite a few now not so good lucking overweight..

sorry looking

No doubt a certain tipster from the Rancid Post availed himself of the generous 5/4 offered by those sporting fellows at bet3.56 for a couple of grand as the beast looks to make it 2 from 2 for the season at Bath this afternoon.

Bath should b shut down

Another £2,264 in the coffers, plus whatever THEY got on from 5/4-1/2!

It wants 2 Miles already - and probably the 8 Flights of Hurdles, aswell.

Just gone up to £150,000 +.

look at my post 25 sept 14 10:48

will be even better at 3 miles