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By:
basilbrush
When: 29 Jul 14 15:01
Keep digging lads.....p/iss poor ride, end of story.
By:
themover
When: 29 Jul 14 15:01
let's hope he gets lucky on Toormore...of course if he does then he'll be the best jockey in the world again Laugh
By:
basilbrush
When: 29 Jul 14 15:03
8 runners, straight 5 furlongs, and Hughes finds more trouble than a Christian in Mosil....eejit.
By:
Marcce
When: 29 Jul 14 15:04
You can't finish like a train in a 5f sprint if you are hampered twice in the final furlong, so that comment was fatuous or ignorant.
Maybe we can debate that too?


Some people are saying he was clearly the best horse in the race. The clear best horse in the race didn't have the pace to get into a position unlike the winner and when he did get room he hardly quickened up in the style of a horse who had a lot in hand over the rest of them.
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 29 Jul 14 15:05
I'm guessing brockville was being ironic in that post rewired.

Those saying Hughes should have switched to the outside earlier are obviously saying so with the benefit of hindsight but let's just say he did and the 2nd drifted the opposite way and bumped him or carried him off a true line then I wonder what people would have been saying then?

My money's on that he should have stayed where he was!
By:
themover
When: 29 Jul 14 15:07
blew it on Toormore as well Laugh
By:
saddo
When: 29 Jul 14 15:07
Went too early their, hope you're all happy Shocked
By:
themover
When: 29 Jul 14 15:08
at least he kept it out of trouble...just the timing to sort out now Laugh
By:
rewired
When: 29 Jul 14 15:10
im not sure anything would have beaten this one
traveled really well
By:
saddo
When: 29 Jul 14 15:10
Laugh
By:
basilbrush
When: 29 Jul 14 15:11
Two odds on pokes beaten in the last 2 races at Glorious Goodwood, the common denominator is...........You got it, Richard VVanker Hughes, both very poor rides.
By:
brockville
When: 29 Jul 14 15:13
Thank you Ima, granted its taken 7431 posts but you've finally talked some sense on a Jockey slating thread....well done Wink
By:
easygold
When: 29 Jul 14 15:16
My god , u guy`s having a clue............. Toormore, is not the same horse as last year.......
By:
rewired
When: 29 Jul 14 15:18
brock maybe if you posted an actual comment on the race
instead of trying to be ultra sarcastic
maybe people would take you serious
maybe....
By:
roadrunner46
When: 29 Jul 14 15:40
IMO hughes made the crucial mistake at the start of the race, he got swamped by the other runners and was behind a wall of horses,
race was over the winner never stopped form start to finish, should of been more positive and tracked the winner form the start,
that horse broke the fastest and was the one to track, he chose to hold his horse back instead and for me that was the crucial mistake
he made in the race.
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 29 Jul 14 15:42
No problem brockville.

Not sure Hughes was at fault on Toormore either and was just beaten by the better horse on the day and nothing to do with  not being the same horse as last year and I seem to remember that being said by someone about Treve too until it turned out she wasn't right on the day and on another day the winner wouldn't have got a run and a luck with the splits and then we would have seen plenty on here blaming Kirby for that too.

7f is a bit of a hybrid distance and you never really know if it will be the milers or sprinters coming out best and Toormore hasn't run at the trip since his last 2YO start and for those saying Hughes went too soon, what would they have been saying if he sat waiting until late and then as a miler got done for speed by a sprinter?

We are all tactical geniuses after the event. Happy
By:
brockville
When: 29 Jul 14 16:05
Rewired.

Maybe there are to many people taking themselves to seriously
maybe...Whoops
By:
rewired
When: 29 Jul 14 16:08
lol....
By:
thegiggilo
When: 29 Jul 14 19:43
Track suited winner if they bet 4/1 and odds on the fav on speed tracks you'd be backing the second fav all day long!!
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 29 Jul 14 20:11
To be honest I'm not too sure the straight 5f course they raced up from the stalls positioned where they were made the track an issue, compared to the uphill/downhill and camber parts of the course when they have to cope with when over longer trips and taking the bend.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 29 Jul 14 21:08
These faster 5fs only suit certain horses,the hannon horse would find trouble there everytime as just can't go that early pace so would always come unstuck at least once or twice making the 4/1 the bet all the time,if it had been ascot probably would've won a length.
By:
Colonel Trautman
When: 29 Jul 14 22:42
Do you bet in running ima_mazed?
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 30 Jul 14 02:17
Occasionally Colonel Trautman but more often than not over longer trips where I either spot one I think is going well and the likely winner or spot one early that I think it about to struggle and come under pressure.

And just to keep everyone happy when saying I always bring Fallon into a thread without fail, I've done well over the years backing him in running when he's been one of the first to start scrubbing alone but then built up momentum late on. I've obviously got it wrong at times too but when he starts niggling away early his price can drift to silly figures, so you can still afford to lose a fair few as long as you get a decent one every now and again.

I got him at 76.0 I think from memory in the 2000gns.
By:
slowerthanjohn
When: 31 Jul 14 19:30
Did anyone else hear Hughes admit his bad ride on Beacon on Ch4 today? Fair play to him when he makes a mistake he's big enough to admit it, not like most top jocks or ImaWhoops
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 14 20:24
Of course he would admit messing the race up on Beacon, because that's exactly what he did, he would have told the trainer/connections he messed up as soon as he got in the paddock. Jockeys cant make mistakes like that without explaining themselves. Its only the fecking eejits on here who cant tell a good ride from a bad one.
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 14 20:25
Ima is a clueless nobody, as are the other few who couldn't see that Hughes rode a bad race, some people on here should be hung drawn and quartered for writing such nonsense.
By:
racingstar
When: 31 Jul 14 20:29
I wonder how many winners you have ridden,Basil.
The smart money is on FALaugh
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 14 20:35
Ive seen cleverer things being flushed down my loo, Im a fox not a jockey. Boom Boom
By:
slowerthanjohn
When: 31 Jul 14 21:29
I wish I had  Hughes' mobile I could have rang him and told him several experts on here said he rode a perfectly adequate raceCrazy
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 31 Jul 14 23:15
slowerthanjohn     31 Jul 14 19:30 
Did anyone else hear Hughes admit his bad ride on Beacon on Ch4 today? Fair play to him when he makes a mistake he's big enough to admit it, not like most top jocks or Ima.


Any chance of a verbatim reproduction of what he actually said? Plus what am I supposed to be admitting I'm wrong about?

basilbrush     31 Jul 14 20:25 
Ima is a clueless nobody, as are the other few who couldn't see that Hughes rode a bad race, some people on here should be hung drawn and quartered for writing such nonsense.


I can assure you that I'd lose you and find you again on most subjects but the fact you had to add in "as are the other few who couldn't see that Hughes rode a bad race" shows I'm not alone in taking an alternative view (even though I actually didn't say either way if it was a good or bad ride) and a bet you would struggle to accurately reproduce and interpret what I did actually say anyway.
By:
slowerthanjohn
When: 31 Jul 14 23:49
The only place you'd lose and find anyone is the arrogance stakesWink you basically said he was unlucky and didn't ride a bad race? Hughes didn't agree end ofTongue Out
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Aug 14 00:14
Race 2 - 2:30pm THE bet365 MOLECOMB STAKES (CLASS 1) (Group 3)
The Stewards held an enquiry under Rule (B)11.6 into possible interference approaching the furlong marker. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race they found that FAST ACT (IRE), placed second, ridden by Jamie Spencer, had interfered with BEACON, placed third, ridden by Richard Hughes. They found the interference was accidental and had not improved FAST ACT (IRE)’s placing. They ordered the placings to remain unaltered.



There appeared to be a gap there initially, and Hughes was entitled to go for it, but Spencer's mount drifted left and cut him off at the pass, so to speak. I think Hughes was entitled to try and race in straight line, rather than yank his mount to the outer at the earliest possible opportunity. I appreciate it made for painful viewing for anyone who backed Beacon, but imo Hughes was unlucky rather than being at fault, on this occasion.
By:
Facts
When: 01 Aug 14 06:20
But Hughes has admitted on C4 that he made a mess of riding it !
By:
slowerthanjohn
When: 01 Aug 14 11:14
Facts you are wasting your timeAngry some people are so pig headed and superior they will not listen even when the man in question admits he rode a poor race! What can you do? I had no financial interest in the race just watched it and Hughes did ride a poor race and like I said he was big enough to admit. Some people on here have the attitude that they are right even when they are wrongCrazy
By:
Dr Gonzo
When: 01 Aug 14 11:24
Ima will be here soon to explain why Richard Hughes was wrong imo
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