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noted in running
28 Jul 14 16:35
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I'm trying to get hold of a copy of his book. Any assistance would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Report Deltâ July 28, 2014 4:38 PM BST
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Come-Butterfly-John-Mort-Green/dp/0720701732
Report Deltâ July 28, 2014 4:38 PM BST
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/131230303754?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108&ff19=0
Report Hound-Dog-2 July 28, 2014 4:52 PM BST
2 used copies of the original (1969) 'Come Fly With The Butterfly' on Amazon, one £25 and the other £27 + postage.
Report dod July 28, 2014 4:55 PM BST
long time since i read it but did enjoy it.
Report Deltâ July 28, 2014 4:56 PM BST
D'oh!
Report onlooker July 28, 2014 4:57 PM BST
You won't learn anything about Racing, or a proper Punting approach, though.

Much more of a 'Bon Viveur' than Pro Punter.

But weren't many of that ilk, at that time.... Charles Benson, et al.
Report Hound-Dog-2 July 28, 2014 5:00 PM BST
^ agree with onlooker, interesting/entertaining character but you won't learn anything.  There is also a copy of the original on ebay about the same price £25.
Report terry mccann July 28, 2014 5:23 PM BST
great read,"the butterfly" lived the life 4 sure
Report noted in running July 29, 2014 11:16 AM BST
Thanks for the replies - I was hoping a forumite may have a copy they no longer wanted. I've taken on board the various comments but I'm still hoping to learn something. After all every day is a school day.
Report Ramruma July 29, 2014 11:48 AM BST
@noted in running -- have you seen this Australian article by the late Philip Alexander of Raceform? It covers the ten rules. You can click through the pop-up that, erm, pops up: at the bottom is a "no thanks".

http://practicalpunting.com.au/pp-online/professional-betting/professional-punters/mort-john/article/johns-flutter-a-flight-to-riches-part-1-20030206

The rules are reproduced below exactly as they appear in the Summary that has already received a mention:

Never be greedy.
Never look at anything other than the best class horses, trainers and jockeys.
Forget those dreams of 100/1 winners and be content with horses in strong demand in the market.
Stop as soon as you are showing a profit on the day.
Back unpopular riders on the tote.
Watch for eleventh-hour riding changes.
Follow money from big betting stables.
Learn to think the same way as trainers and jockeys.
Always get value by trying to beat the book.
Never lose confidence because you have lost everything-else.
Report onlooker July 29, 2014 12:31 PM BST
^ re above ...

Stop as soon as you are showing a profit on the day.

THAT is a load of illogical nonsense - for a start.

Back unpopular riders on the tote.[/i]

THAT - [b]contradicts
his 2nd rule = re:  - Never look at anything other than the best class horses, trainers and jockeys.
Report Ramruma July 29, 2014 1:57 PM BST
@onlooker -- I think he meant in those days that unpopular jockeys paid more on the Tote.

But my guess is that those were not his rules, but were something he added at the publisher's insistence to make the book more attractive. Alex Bird's book was the same.
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