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noted in running
28 Jul 14 16:35
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I'm trying to get hold of a copy of his book. Any assistance would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

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By:
Deltâ
When: 28 Jul 14 16:38
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Come-Butterfly-John-Mort-Green/dp/0720701732
By:
Deltâ
When: 28 Jul 14 16:38
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/131230303754?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108&ff19=0
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 28 Jul 14 16:52
2 used copies of the original (1969) 'Come Fly With The Butterfly' on Amazon, one £25 and the other £27 + postage.
By:
dod
When: 28 Jul 14 16:55
long time since i read it but did enjoy it.
By:
Deltâ
When: 28 Jul 14 16:56
D'oh!
By:
onlooker
When: 28 Jul 14 16:57
You won't learn anything about Racing, or a proper Punting approach, though.

Much more of a 'Bon Viveur' than Pro Punter.

But weren't many of that ilk, at that time.... Charles Benson, et al.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 28 Jul 14 17:00
^ agree with onlooker, interesting/entertaining character but you won't learn anything.  There is also a copy of the original on ebay about the same price £25.
By:
terry mccann
When: 28 Jul 14 17:23
great read,"the butterfly" lived the life 4 sure
By:
noted in running
When: 29 Jul 14 11:16
Thanks for the replies - I was hoping a forumite may have a copy they no longer wanted. I've taken on board the various comments but I'm still hoping to learn something. After all every day is a school day.
By:
Ramruma
When: 29 Jul 14 11:48
@noted in running -- have you seen this Australian article by the late Philip Alexander of Raceform? It covers the ten rules. You can click through the pop-up that, erm, pops up: at the bottom is a "no thanks".

http://practicalpunting.com.au/pp-online/professional-betting/professional-punters/mort-john/article/johns-flutter-a-flight-to-riches-part-1-20030206

The rules are reproduced below exactly as they appear in the Summary that has already received a mention:

Never be greedy.
Never look at anything other than the best class horses, trainers and jockeys.
Forget those dreams of 100/1 winners and be content with horses in strong demand in the market.
Stop as soon as you are showing a profit on the day.
Back unpopular riders on the tote.
Watch for eleventh-hour riding changes.
Follow money from big betting stables.
Learn to think the same way as trainers and jockeys.
Always get value by trying to beat the book.
Never lose confidence because you have lost everything-else.
By:
onlooker
When: 29 Jul 14 12:31
^ re above ...

Stop as soon as you are showing a profit on the day.

THAT is a load of illogical nonsense - for a start.

Back unpopular riders on the tote.[/i]

THAT - [b]contradicts
his 2nd rule = re:  - Never look at anything other than the best class horses, trainers and jockeys.
By:
Ramruma
When: 29 Jul 14 13:57
@onlooker -- I think he meant in those days that unpopular jockeys paid more on the Tote.

But my guess is that those were not his rules, but were something he added at the publisher's insistence to make the book more attractive. Alex Bird's book was the same.
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When: 25 Jun 19 07:23
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