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Report metro john • April 9, 2014 12:36 PM BST
trying to figure out what they meanSad
Report metro john • April 9, 2014 12:38 PM BST
so what is changed or new?
Report Big Boss • April 9, 2014 12:40 PM BST
I accessed the new Horse Racing pages BETA :-

Please upgrade your browser to view Horse Racing.

We built the new racing experience using the latest technology. This makes it faster and easier to use.
Unfortunately, your browser doesn't support this technology.


I went to Microsoft Internet Explorer Downloads :-

You've got our latest browser

Thanks for using Internet Explorer!


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If you have any comments about the new racing pages or questions for the Betfair Product team, leave a comment below


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THERE IS NO COMMENTS BOX LOL

only on planet betfair can this amount of f*** ups be possible Laugh
Report brassneck • April 9, 2014 12:44 PM BST
Take about shooting themselves in the foot,this time they shot themselves in the head.Cry
Report Big Boss • April 9, 2014 12:46 PM BST
if they close the "classic" site then it will be a mistake of biblical proportions
Report salmon spray • April 9, 2014 12:49 PM BST
Looks like I have 6 weeks to make my fortune.
Plenty of time     Happy
Report brassneck • April 9, 2014 12:54 PM BST
IT really is the end.(sad)
Report Big Boss • April 9, 2014 12:57 PM BST
I thought the new ACCOUNT OPTIONS screen/format slowness and four clicks instead of one to get your account history was the last straw, appears there is another straw left in the box Laugh
Report sparrow • April 9, 2014 12:57 PM BST
Finally, it remains our intention to ensure the new site is superior to the classic, or old site, before we consider closing the latter.





I very much doubt that the new site will achieve superiority.
Report salmon spray • April 9, 2014 1:05 PM BST
It would help if they could write in English. Their post reminds me of the instructions you used to get with Japanese TVs and stereos 25 years ago.
Report starfish and coffee • April 9, 2014 1:29 PM BST
Read it and it all seems quite good tbf. IF they do what they say then not sure what the problem is.
Report Big Boss • April 9, 2014 1:31 PM BST
BF talk the talk but generally do not walk the walk
Report starfish and coffee • April 9, 2014 1:39 PM BST
Yep, fingers crossed they walk the walk this time!
Report salmon spray • April 9, 2014 1:46 PM BST
I wish somebody would explain it to me.
I am not a complete dinosaur as I have used the new version of the forum for at least a year,as I think that is an improvement. I have very occasionally used the new betting site but found it inherently unstable. I very nearly put the wrong price up on there most times ( of course I do THAT on the old site. I mean I nearly put up a price which wasn't the one I intended ). I have never used the Sportsbook as I don't have accounts with old-fashioned bookmakers so all this talk of integrating that or otherwise means nothing to me.
Report Mr Magoo • April 9, 2014 1:57 PM BST
Actually the new beta horse racing markets seem quite nice. Certainly much better than the current 'new' site.
Report salmon spray • April 9, 2014 2:00 PM BST
So they are ditching the " new site " that nobody liked    Confused
Report Mr Magoo • April 9, 2014 2:52 PM BST
I hope so! The ideal result would be them leaving the old site running too
Report Knight Commander • April 9, 2014 3:17 PM BST
Back & Lay around the wrong way - cards scrunched up - 8 runners in view whereas I currently have 10. Cry
Hope purple get their site geared up and invest in some more servers Wink
Report longbridge • April 9, 2014 3:30 PM BST
Back and Lay the wrong way round?  How do you mean?  Market view looks right to me - I've been betting on it this afternoon as a trial.
Report Knight Commander • April 9, 2014 3:35 PM BST
I'm seeing the pink lay column on the left and the blue one to the right of it Confused
Report Knight Commander • April 9, 2014 3:36 PM BST
Also seeing a grey column in between the pink and blue. Don't know what that's for Confused
Report Knight Commander • April 9, 2014 3:37 PM BST
Yet bringing up the SP columns changes the lay and back cols round the usual way again. Weird Crazy
Report mice_elf_and_eye • April 9, 2014 5:07 PM BST
Having found the 'new' site unuseable, I was expecting this Beta thingamabob to be
equally horrendous.

My fears appeared to be confirmed when I attempted to launch Horse Racing Beta in
Internet Explorer & got nowt but a basically blank screen.

Tried to access again via Google Chrome & this time it worked fine.

Having used it all afternoon, I have to say, much to my surprise, I like it!

Non-runners show at bottom of horse/jockey list with Time of Withdrawal/Reduction
Factor marked (like they do on the 'Purple'), and really like being able to click
on a 'completed' Market & it shows winning horse(s) with BSP (shows just 'winner'
for AvB, W/O, FC & RFC Markets).

Now, if I can just suss out why it won't work with Internet Explorer on my Laptop,
I'll be very happy.
Report MC Roller • April 9, 2014 5:12 PM BST
"please leave your comments at the end of the article"

Laugh

As if betfair listen to customer feedback. We are betfair, we do what we like.
Report Ramruma • April 9, 2014 5:41 PM BST
The point of a beta test is they "want* you to report any bugs or problems.
Report acc • April 9, 2014 7:01 PM BST
Didn't work for me in the Safari browser so used firefox and this worked.. I have to say it replicates what you can do on the old site and that is what I want. The new site was unusable for me with the unordered sorting of bets.
At last Betfair are listening.
Report Virgin • April 9, 2014 7:08 PM BST

Apr 9, 2014 -- 5:41PM, Ramruma wrote:


The point of a beta test is they "want* you to report any bugs or problems.


Are they supplying the betting tokens in this experiment Confused

Report Knight Commander • April 9, 2014 9:24 PM BST
acc     09 Apr 14 19:01 
Didn't work for me in the Safari browser........

I was also using Safari - maybe it's not compatible with that.
Report Knight Commander • April 9, 2014 9:48 PM BST
Just tried it using Chrome and looks almost normal.

Don't like the grey background in the race-list menu - makes the pale blue text difficult to read.
Report Mr Magoo • April 9, 2014 10:12 PM BST
Been using it today in Chrome and it actually works pretty well, it's a massive improvement over the current new site (which I have never managed to use for more than a few minutes).

The beta site manages to show the list of runners in a nice compact manner, the bet list is properly sorted (how long has that been broken on the new site for? How on earth didn't they fix that there?), it actually shows all three back/lay odds and SP (new site won't unless you make the browser really wide). Scrolling up and down doesn't cause the layout to go mad.

It's almost as good as the old site!
Report sparrow • April 9, 2014 10:13 PM BST
What is it with these IT people? Just had an upgrade on a family history website I use and they have wrecked the site and are facing a barrage of complaints.
Report oberfuhrer9 • April 9, 2014 10:15 PM BST
If they close the classic site it will be back up in 2 months cos turnover will be down 50%
Report roggrain • April 10, 2014 9:48 AM BST
I upgraded my browser.

Tried to log on at the new site and can't!!! 

That's a lot of use then.
Report roggrain • April 10, 2014 10:00 AM BST
Tried again on Chrome and it works. Internet Explorer won't. Maybe Betfair are siding with chrome?
Report salmon spray • April 10, 2014 10:33 AM BST
Not much point to it if it won't work on IE. I am actually capable of using other browsers but not of working out issues I have with them.
Report metro john • April 10, 2014 10:37 AM BST
this company well ahead of themselves,and continue to embarrass themselves,and upset their customers.
Report Big Boss • April 10, 2014 12:57 PM BST
I upgraded my browser. Tried to log on at the new site and can't!!!  That's a lot of use then.

ditto here, I spoke to VIP dept at Betfair.

He said it works perfectly on Chrome and Safari, it was my fault for using the new BETA site on Internet Explorer !

reply is beyond my comprehension Laugh
Report swift-tuttle • April 10, 2014 12:59 PM BST
beta sight looks good imo

old stick-in-the-muds ^^^^^^^^
Report Big Boss • April 10, 2014 1:04 PM BST
Feb 2014 wiki shows that over 17% of the worlds online population viewed their webpages through Internet Explorer.

That means that over 17% of the current BF customer base wont be able to use the new site functuality.
Report Big Boss • April 10, 2014 1:07 PM BST
Call me a traditionalist, I have been using PC's since the invention of the 286, and was online at the inception, I have always used Internet Explorer, why should I change ?
Report argosy • April 10, 2014 1:12 PM BST
I would guess in the UK IE users well exceed 17%
Report swift-tuttle • April 10, 2014 1:15 PM BST
I'm using it now via IE

suggest you upgrade to the latest version of IE
Report Emms • April 10, 2014 1:36 PM BST
That is a major improvement over the previous attempt.
Report Knight Commander • April 10, 2014 2:51 PM BST
Wouldn't work with Safari yesterday. BF staff talking out of their "elbows" again Crazy
Report acc • April 10, 2014 9:24 PM BST
Second day using this new beta. So far, I am happy with it. The colours are a bit bright but that is not a major problem. The bet placement section is not ideal because the place bet and confirm bet buttons are not in the same position, this means you have to move the mouse to hit the confirm button. I can get around this by turning the confirm bet option off.
   Overall this is not bad and I could use this if the old site is turned off.It is a bit of a relief because I thought I would have to spend time building my own interface through the API( because the new site was unusable for me with its sportsbook type betslip.)
Betfair: Better late than never but a step in the right direction.
Report longbridge • April 14, 2014 12:37 PM BST
Now with dutching for Back bets - though it's not as obvious as it might be.

Click on the 2 or more selections you want to dutch, then click on 'Stake' above the stake column on the betslip and you can enter your total stake to spread over those horses for a level profit.

I was going to say that would have been useful to have ten days ago, but since none of the 8 (yes, eight) horses I backed in the GN won it, easier dutching wouldn't have made a lot of difference!
Report swift-tuttle • April 14, 2014 12:40 PM BST
this is really good because although the maths behind this is not particularly complex

you still normally have to use a calculator to find out the amounts by which time the original prices have probably gone
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