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12 Mar 14 23:32
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I've been contacted by several people who have had a Rule 4 deduction made from ante post bets placed on the Neptune today at Cheltenham (1,30)

Note to Ladbrokes: Please stop ripping off the dwindling number of punters you have and stop referring them to IBAS.

Much better to know the well established rules and settle bets accordingly.

Unbelieveable what's happening to this Company, now a total embarrassment.
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Report marychain1 • March 12, 2014 10:34 PM GMT
****g mugs.
Report Mr Eboue • March 12, 2014 10:39 PM GMT
Parasites.

I was walking in the countryside on Monday and stumbled into a bog. Rotting, putrid leaves and filthy stagnant water.

If I was in charge of this country I'd round up every single Ladbrokes senior manager/ceo/etc and throw them in that bog.
Report The Unforgiven • March 12, 2014 10:49 PM GMT
They CAN'T Rule 4 any bets until the final declarations have been made.
Report longbow • March 12, 2014 10:49 PM GMT
how can this be so.i had £50 on faugheen on 09/march @5/2,under what rule are they allowed to apply rule 4?
i spoke to customer services who said they would ring back,surrise surprise they didnt.
Report Paul Haigh - Total Respect • March 12, 2014 10:52 PM GMT
They can't, but they have.

I've seen the proof.
Report longbow • March 12, 2014 10:54 PM GMT
i know they have,but under what rule?
Report The Unforgiven • March 12, 2014 10:55 PM GMT
Yes I've heard that too Paul. Sadly they have some knowledgeless staff working for them at present. We need more exposure of their incompetence for the firm to realise what a total SHAMBLES they are at present...... Complete Jokers !
Report Paul Haigh - Total Respect • March 12, 2014 10:55 PM GMT
Nothing in their rules allows them to make a Rule 4 deduction to bets placed before final decs are made.

But that hasn't stopped them making one.
Report onlooker • March 12, 2014 10:56 PM GMT
Did they go - 'Non-Runner = No bet'?

If so - Does that THEN affect Rule4 ?

I know that if it is a 'balls out' Ante-Post bet, then that they CANNOT - NO way.

But just wondering about a 'Non-Runner = No bet' concession scenario.
Report The Unforgiven • March 12, 2014 10:59 PM GMT
onlooker NRNB is a concession - END OF , Ante Post bets simply CANNOT be Rule 4'd
Report longbow • March 12, 2014 10:59 PM GMT
on the other hand i had £50 on sire on sunday @ 9/4 and they payed 11/4 as a price boost.
think i know which firm i will be using in the future.
Report Paul Haigh - Total Respect • March 12, 2014 11:00 PM GMT
When a firm goes NRNB, they invariably clip all their prices and have a massive theoretical overround in their favour. That's to allow for horses not turning up. You can't then deduct a Rule 4 unless the bet is placed after final decs.


Unless you are Ladbrokes.
Report The Unforgiven • March 12, 2014 11:10 PM GMT
Let's bombard the customer services number with phone calls .... ha ha ha ha !
Report Kerrygold • March 13, 2014 6:20 AM GMT
wow  -ladbrokes are really going downhill faster every day - its getting pretty bad now , as i said with the prices that they had in the last few weeks for cheltenham ...they were a farce..now this operation is a total shambles
Report Paul Haigh - Total Respect • March 13, 2014 9:31 AM GMT
For the benefit of anyone who has been deducted a Rule 4 from a bet on the race prior to final decs stage:

When Ladbrokes steer you in the direction of IBAS, tell them you will not be doing so but will instead be pursuing the matter through the courts unless they pay you in full within 48 hours.

You will be paid long before 48 hours have elapsed.
Report Dr Gonzo • March 13, 2014 9:34 AM GMT
Another cowardly firm who bang on about all their "great offers", then make up rules to claw a bit of money back when they have their pants taken down. Pathetic.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves • March 13, 2014 1:55 PM GMT
Had £50 on Faugheen at 7/2 in one of their shops on Monday morning, and got paid in full a couple of hours ago.

Odd, because this was from their Best Price All Chelt Favs offer between 9am and 10am that day. If there were any bets from which you'd think they might try a Rule 4, it would have been one of these.
Report toffee87 • March 13, 2014 1:57 PM GMT
I got paid at 4/1 no problems as part of one of their lock-ins last week - which was a shame as I was ready for a fight (verbal of course)
Report screaming from beneaththewaves • March 13, 2014 2:22 PM GMT
Same here, toffee.Grin

Was on a roll after yesterday morning's ruck, when they'd settled my £50 at 6/5 on Quevega from the same offer at SP.
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