Champion Hurdle did not live up to expectations

Yet ......

TIME 3m 45.25s (fast by 5.75s)

New course record.
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JUMP RECORDS

2m110y(H)(8) Istabraq (IRE) (14Mar00)  3m 48.10s

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Make of that what you will.

Our conor could have won by twenty lengths. We'll never know.

I'm not 100% sure The New one would have won. No one can say for sure.

Like most things the hype didn't justify the event.

JEZKI -

NOT a 'CHAMPION sounding' NAME  -  that will 'live-long in the memory', either - is it?

Cant blame a horse for his name ffs!

I thought it was a cracker,what a ride by winking,u just knew mckoy wasn't go to allowed to pass

Just because things didn't go as many had hoped or anticipated does not constitute it being a letdown, just confirms that opinions are usually proved to be wrong cometh the day for everyone bar those who felt the winner on this day would be Jezki.
Anyone who does not believe todays race was a great spectacle must be setting their bar of expectation too high.

Thinly veiled- i didn't back the winner so therefore it didn't live up to my expectations thread,imo.

These things are usually let downs. Media hype these things out of all proportion.

You won't see a better ride all week. Not often you can say that after a Champion Hurdle.

onlooker 11 Mar 14 17:57 Joined: 18 Feb 03 | Topic/replies: 16,276 | Blogger: onlooker's blog
Yet ......

TIME 3m 45.25s (fast by 5.75s)

New course record.
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JUMP RECORDS

2m110y(H)(8) Istabraq (IRE) (14Mar00)  3m 48.10s

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Make of that what you will.


I make of that the ground was clearly riding faster than normal. As at least 1 maybe more course records were broken this could confirm it.

they moved the goal posts or did you not watch the racing , timing the race from when they break the start line instead of when the flag went down changes everything

That would explain it then, combined with faster ground than normal.


Jezki not better than istabraq imo

I backed My Tent or  Yours big ante-post and I was disappointed. This was added to later on by Suntiep but objectively, although the race was very exciting, I can see why one could see it as disappointing.

McCoy once again couldn't get My Tent or Yours to settle, will we ever know how good he could be if he learned how to race?

We lost one of the most exciting young horses in training in Our Conor.

In losing Our Conor, the chances of another potential superstar in The New One were seriously compromised. He lost more than the distance he was beaten by after all.

What we have learned is that Jezki is a fine horse and has been the victim of poor rides in all of his recent races except topday and back at the Punchestown festival.

McCoy has butchered his chance twice and got away with it in the Hattons Grace. Robbie Power ploughed him through the last in the Supreme.

I don't like McCoy on top horses, there have been too many incidents through the years. He lacks finesse and when he tries it, we get results like the Irish Champion where he was outridden by that racing luminary Danny Mullins.

Mccoy had a mare on MTOY today. He got the horse beat and you could tell he knew muttering under hsi breath when they crossed the line. Just have faith in the horses ridiculous cruising speed, Id rather him empty out after the last with others gaining rather than him waste energy pulling his head off then trying to go past horses infront, Im quite certain he could of won a supreme and a chmapion hurdle if he'd just bloody kick on before the 2nd last and kill the race off early. Frustrated is not the word.

"I don't like McCoy on top horses, there have been too many incidents through the years. He lacks finesse and when he tries it, we get results like the Irish Champion where he was outridden by that racing luminary Danny Mullins"

If you don't like him on top horses why did u back him.

Because I thought he would at last get it right on him on the day that counts. I thought it was the one thing that a great trainer like Henderson was working on. I also had massive belief in the horse, still do and had him at 10's ante-post. I see horses running free under him every day of the week. it is a weakness in what is an otherwise formi9dable armoury. But it is the one thing you can't afford to do in Grade 1 races.

what we did learn was that hurricane will never win the champion again,neither will jetzti.
Ifeel the new one would have won with an uninterupted passage,but even allowing for allthis next years winner and possibly todays winner had he been allowed to take his chance is UN DE SEUX an absolute machine .
Watch this space and believe.
BTW dont forger dunguib e/w in the coral cup.

" he could of won"

could HAVE won

this frustrates the fck out of me. we all have our crosses to bear. as for mtoy - I'm sure AP knows how to ride him better than we do.

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I see horses running free under him every day of the week. it is a weakness in what is an otherwise formi9dable armoury. But it is the one thing you can't afford to do in Grade 1 races.


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I see horses running free under him every day of the week. it is a weakness in what is an otherwise formi9dable armoury. But it is the one thing you can't afford to do in Grade 1 races.


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Take up knitting Neill as horse race reading is not your strongpoint.

Same as last year for MTOY in that McCoy couldnt get it to settle and then got outridden by a top jockey.

I see horses running free under him every day of the week.

That to be fair was an overstatement as I'm a bit upset!! But he cannot settle this particular horse and has had enough tries now.

It will never happen, but I'd love to see someone else on him.

Neill,
Henderson stated after the race,"I wish I could get a magic potion to make it settle".
Enough said?

Perhaps some on here could write directly to AP and give him their expert advice. I'm sure that a 19 time Champion jockey would be very receptive to the opinions of those who have probably never sat on a horse, let alone been involved in a single race.

Yes, maybe, probably. I'm just gutted!! Rereading I have probably overstated his case. It is just that natural talent oozes out of him and I'm a sucker for that. i never even traded out such was my faith in him, even when I didn't like what I saw unfolding.

Neill's point would be that McCoy has had enough goes on the horse and he only seems to generate the same response every time. Were he not under contract, I would agree it would make perfect sense to try something different. A horse like this would be suited to someone like Carberry !

I'd probably cream myself if Carberry ever got on him!!

First it was a gret ride by Geraghty, and Jezki was possibly overlooked because of the other four, but I feel the race has thrown up more questions than answers, and on Champion Hurdle day you want to see a real worthy champion with everything fitting into place. The fall and interference robbed us of an unfolding satisfying end. The Jezki connections may not get all the adulation that they should.


I certainly would not rule out Jezki winning it again though

Nor would I Steamship, it is a good race for streetfighters. it is the only race of the year run that way.

Apologies for the emotional incontinence gentlemen, a difficult day!!

Carberry liability on any horse he rides.

The New One's backers have every right to feel gutted,imo(no fault of the Jockey).

A question.

If the horse won't settle why waste energy trying to?

Why not go balls to the wall and unleash hell and see what happens??

Moneytree,
It is clear that you have never ridden a racehorse.

Money tree is right, instead of holding on like an idiot just let him tank his way into the lead, just like bg does with sprinter sacre, why hold on when he could of already had the race won before the last. I truly believe mtoy is that good he could use his speed to kill a race off that soon. His pace was freightening today he pulled so hard off such a strong pace, stop holding the horse back ap let him show us his true potential. Mccoy keeps gdtting this horse beat and hes well and truly pissing me off in the process

Another non rider

You don't have to have ridden a horse to understand economics.

You being a loser and AP being at fault are entirely unrelated,Brooksie.

It was a poor ride and McCoy knows it. Biggest mistake was at the last, presented the horse all wrong, needed a fast fluent jump, presented the horse wrong, cost him the win , no question at all about that.

Im sure in coming weeks mccoy will admit it was a bad ride and he made mistakes.


And before anyone says i have never ridden a horse...:...i have actually, rode a horse when i was 12 on holiday in wales, did trotting and cantering.

I guarantee mccoy will admit he made mistakes here.


Mccoy is mccoys biggest critic.


Anyone saying mccoy didnt give it a bad ride will be shown up when mccoy publically admits he did.


FACT

No mention of the New One winning barring misfortune says it all

@brookieslad - "when he could of already"

ffs

COULD HAVE or COULD'VE

come on - it's not hard.

grrrrrr

Brooksielad
11 Mar 14 21:02
instead of holding on like an idiot just let him tank his way into the lead, just like bg does with sprinter sacre, why hold on when he could of already had the race won before the last.

yes, McCoy did that with Sprinter Sacre in the Supreme and he fell in a heap after the last..everyone said why the fook didnt McCoy hold onto such an obvious speed horse

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He may have won he may not have won impossible to say with 100% certainty.

He was certainly unlucky either way.

A reasonable deduction,Teabag(I never backed either).

Why do the people who trot out the "How many horses and or winners have you ridden" line
bother to come here? its a punters forum ffs.

Does that exclude people who have ridden race horses from posting a view,Sica.

Racingstar has quite obviously ridden a horse before... congratulations, shame it didn't help him when coming to the conclusion tno is a champion hurdle horse... he's slow as **** and wouldnt have won with a clear run. ntd and even std someone that has "riden" a horse thought tno is quick. He was slow as **** and got left behind, nearly as slow as melodic loool.

Brookie,
You do not need to have ridden a racehorse to expose yourself as a clown(as you most certainly have).
To describe the New One as slow beggars belief.
Are you visually challenged?
Long may you have a funded BF Account.

I didn't say you have to have ridden a horse to be exposed as a clown...I don't quite know where you're going with that sentence. As for you thinking the new one is quick... it took him all his time to go past rule the world last year after getting out paced over further lol. Struggling against a slow boat like zarkandar and today he got left behind before stayin on. He'd be better off running in the nh chase would be a much more suitable pace for him.

Are you visually challenged,Brooksie because I would hate to be mocking an afflicted person?
Were you the only person watching the race who missed the New One being badly hampered by the fall of Our Connor and losing many more lengths than it lost by?

racingstar we actually agree on something

i noticed and rewatched him get hampered (