Bruce Millington

BM = small man syndrome - NAP

Bookmakers mouthpiece and yesman.

The users on this forum address topics that your paper won't touch as you are scared of upsetting bookmakers, trainers or jockeys.

On the subject of "upsetting" however, by abusing the people of this forum it seems ok for you to upset your readers,let me remind you without your readers you dont have a paper.Are your bookmaker friends or "tipsters" going to take out adverts if you continue to ridicule the very people who support your paper.
You can kiss goodbye to another £750 a year as I am now drawing the line for your latest cheapshot.

What on earth has the Betfair forum got to do with a Twitter discussion

about a P.Power offer?

Bruce seems very bitter & twittered !

Well it's better than last weeks words of wisdom:


"It is a journalist's primary function to ask probing questions in a bid to get to the heart of the truth, and the world is a far better place for that."

I both read the RP and contrbute to the Betfair forum, as I imagine many others do.

But apparently, according to Bruce Millington the two are mutually exclusive.

So I will have to stop one or the other. Bye Bye Racing Post.

His bosses must be well pleased the impact he is having on the paper----

It can only be a matter of time before the ''organ'' ceases to function !

When Paul Haigh tried to ask probing questions as a Racing Post journalist, he realised the best course of action was to resign...


http://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/mar/20/racing-post-paul-haigh-resignation


He was presumably trying to fulfil his primary function.

Perhaps that's Bruce's brief..... closure post haste !

i think he is under the impression marychain that they are two very different groups, i would imagine his marketing says that the forum makes up a very small % of his readership

DH   

hes the david moyes of newspaper editing

hence he doesn't mind upsetting those that are racing enthusiasts as opposed to the trolling oiks he thinks are reading

toobt--

he's not that good

Bruce had a right go at the Forum a few years back, with his famous statement "not fit to be let loose with crayons, or something along those lines?.
He was getting a little bit of stick at the time, but after the Forum got wind of his infamous article he's been torn a new one ever since.

Better off if he had kept his mouth shut as it had the opposite effect and backfired big time.

It seems quite obvious that the reason BM dislikes this forum so much is that, deep down, he knows the comments about his paper are correct.

On the big stories and questions affecting racing and punters, the Racing Post is nowhere to be seen.

The audited net average issue sale of the Racing Post for August 2007 was 72,184 copies. This was down from 80,343 in March 2007, which in itself was down 7.03% year-on-year.

Racing Post average daily sale (Monday - Saturday) Jan-Jun 2013: 46,871.

Makes Derek Jameson (RIP) look like Einstein !

At this rate it will be a fiver a pop come Cheltenham

Here is his infamous statement for those who never seen it,

"I hope Betfair does something about its increasingly pathetic forum, where one by one the shrewd, witty, insightful contributors have drifted away to be replaced by people who are not safe to be let loose with a crayon let alone a keyboard. How a respectable company like Betfair,which prides itself on the transparency of its product, allows itself to play host to such feeble, nasty, predictable, pocket-talking, barely regulated, anonymous viewpoints is utterly beyond me."

^ soft drinks are dear at THE FESTIVAL imo....

Brucie baby seems full of bile imo !

he assumes that the twitterer mentioning his hidden agenda with PP is a betfair forumite

how dare u bruce, how very dare u

must have his head stuck up ralph toppings rear end this morning because he seems to have missed this thread

he seems to have missed this thread

Nah, I had a post removed earlier on. All factual, nothing abusive.

Truth hurts.

to have such a strong opinion and call the betfair forum "grotty" , he must read the threads regularly

BM , ask yourself a few questions

betfair eddie
dean mckeoooen
dave smith
etc

this grotty forum could see what was happening long before anyone lost there jobs , had investigations into what they were upto , etc

your paper did not and still doesn't mention all that is wrong within horse racing.

Wouldn't you think that a publication that purports to represent the interest of the punter, carrying out hard hitting investigative reporting into some of the obvious problems that racing has?

Apologies if I missed them I no longer waste my money buying it.

The Racing Post has always stood up for the punter and will continue to do so

I have not bought the post for nearly six years now & the next time I buy it will be when there is a double page spread on how the high street bookie has totally failed the punter.

So that will be never I suspect.

Bruce,

your paper will stand up for the punter when it starts asking:

Why bookmakers care more about their FOBT users than their horse racing punters
Why bookmakers refer anything over £20 each way to their traders and won't take a proper bet
Why bookies are allowed to close down accounts of anyone they have to pay a decent bet to, or who show any sort of price savvy

When your paper starts its campaign for bookmakers to have to advertise (preferably on oddschecker) how much they will stand to every price they advertise, you will be the paper that is the punters' friend. Before then, don't waste your breath.

To suggest our agenda is dictated by bookmakers is absurd and untrue.

translates as we still need their advertising so can't pish them off

he would know all about abuse,called a famous golf commentator all the names under the sun for years on end

yes he's ruthless in attacking soft targets

Maybe Betfair could organise a meeting with a small number of forum members, Bruce and some of his journalists to discuss the issues highlighted on here and the issues Bruce has with this forum.

The outcome of the meeting could be shared with forumites and reported in the Racing Post.

Refreshment at the meeting could be a half of lager, roughly the price of the Racing Post.

He's happy to dish it out, but can't take it back.

Behaviour that is more akin to an infant.

Too true Pandora, and he was quite fond of slagging off Rugby Union while defending to the hilt the rancid sport of cycling.

rancid sport of cycling.

bit harsh

Harsh marychain?

Probably the must drug infested sport in history?.

I haven't bought The Racing Post for over four years and will never do so again and yet I should be their very target audience as we all should be on here. A tatty, pointless rag which is just a vehicle to promote advertising from bookmakers.

"The Racing Post has always stood up for the punter and will continue to do so."

That comment is just way beyond contempt.

Cycling is probably the cleanest sport around these days, although its clearly had its fair share of problems. But at least cycling has gone through the storm and come out the other side. There are a whole host of other sports that will have to go through what cycling already has done. There are clearly horrendous drug problems in football, tennis and horse racing amongst others, but everyone from the fans to journalists to the governing bodies have their heads in the sand about it.

bilbobaggins   

27 Feb 14 11:18

"He certainly seems to have an unusually strong dislike of this forum. Perhaps it's because it's the only place in the racing world where topics that his paper won't even address are discussed openly and it shows his rag up to be the bookie's benefit publication we all know it is. He must be a very sad little man to bring up the Betfair forum in an article on Twitter abuse. Pathetic really."

Well said Bilbo and that pretty much sums up my own views and that of the vast majority of us on here.

about a year ago BM was suggesting wilfred zaha would be as good as the likes of gazza, this sort of shows you his level logical thought

"Johnny_Mustang 27 Feb 14 12:36 Joined: 18 Feb 07 | Topic/replies: 3,188 | Blogger: Johnny_Mustang's blog
The audited net average issue sale of the Racing Post for August 2007 was 72,184 copies. This was down from 80,343 in March 2007, which in itself was down 7.03% year-on-year.

Racing Post average daily sale (Monday - Saturday) Jan-Jun 2013: 46,871"


How many betting shops are there nowadays and is it safe to assume that every one buys a Rancid Post?
I thought there were at least 8000 (probably nearer to 10K) and so that figure of 72,184 for that particular month) divided by 31 makes an average daily figure of 2328 (are the numbers right?
They can't ALL be for the shops - as nobody on here seems to admit buying it nowadays (I'm another that gave up about 6 years ago) so how viable does that make the limp organ?

Is there a chance they'll get buggered or do they make so much from the shíthouse bookmakers adverts they're comfortable?

They make plenty.

barely regulated,
i hardly get to the double L never mind the O, and my laptop starts flashing a red siren

Would be nice if he had the manners or was man enough to explain his words or opinions in deatail rather than looking down his nose or treating the true punter with contempt

Apart from the use of the word "grotty", there's nothing in his article which is factually incorrect. As for his apppearance on the Morning Line, he was correct, the RP costs the same as a half pint of lager. I do not understand why people who dissaprove so much of the Post just don't stop buying/reading it.

gbtp---they have you only have to read on here

Peter Alliss was the golf commentator in question. A man with far more class than brucie cry baby.

Brucie cry baby can remove all the posts he wants, but nothing can change the fact he's just a nobody who no one has heard of.

The ex kennel cleaner from Crayford has never explained his rapid promotion and as he is not a journalist I am agog at his rapid rise through the ranks...

My grandad joined the Home Guard in 1939 serving tea and by 1944 was in charge of the British Army on D Day and I thought that was rapid promotion...

But at least he had balls.....

In my day when I had more Posts removed from here than have been lost to circulation in the "Millington" years, there seemed to have been a lot more people defending the uneducated one.The Canary Wharf graveytrainers used to come here en masse with more alias's than the passport desk at Heathrow.

Where are they now as they certainly are not tipping winners....

This sums up this horrible specimen, he made Richard Birch the papers top tipster

Thanks to Betfair for allowing this thread to run all day.

Plenty of food for thought for you know who.

Joined: 16 Nov 10 | Topic/replies: 3,424 | Blogger: holywell's blog
Maybe Betfair could organise a meeting with a small number of forum members, Bruce and some of his journalists to discuss the issues highlighted on here and the issues Bruce has with this forum.

The outcome of the meeting could be shared with forumites and reported in the Racing Post.

Refreshment at the meeting could be a half of lager, roughly the price of the Racing Post.Mischief


Count me in.I would wipe the floor with him and his cohorts..

I would have to wear a mask though if it was televised.Not because I want to protect my identity but because I am facially challenged.Perhaps I could borrow the one that Bruce should be wearing - maybe not.....

silvergreaser 27 Feb 14 12:33 Joined: 11 Feb 10 | Topic/replies: 7,959 | Blogger: silvergreaser's blog
Bruce had a right go at the Forum a few years back, with his famous statement "not fit to be let loose with crayons, or something along those lines?.
He was getting a little bit of stick at the time, but after the Forum got wind of his infamous article he's been torn a new one ever since.

Better off if he had kept his mouth shut as it had the opposite effect and backfired big time.


Can someone find that thread as I can remember the Canary Wharf tribe coming out big style and taking the rise out of me.

There you go homefortea

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http://www.theracingforum.co.uk/horse-racing-forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=79641

Just read that fred, jesus he does the boardroom response like no other

I hope Betfair does something about its increasingly pathetic forum, where one by one the shrewd, witty, insightful contributors have drifted away to be replaced by people who are not safe to be let loose with a crayon let alone a keyboard. How a respectable company like Betfair,which prides itself on the transparency of its product, allows itself to play host to such feeble, nasty, predictable, pocket-talking, barely regulated, anonymous viewpoints is utterly beyond me.

Anybody reading this thread will find it very difficult to agree with that flippant statement.

Get ready for the   RP Pre Cheltenham price increase, happens every year. Getting to the tipping point now, dare it increase again or will this one be the straw that breaks the camels back?

Annual online subscription increased by 11%; is there a fine on the way from the Information Commissioner for losing customers' personal data?

I like how he says he "refutes" claims that they're in the bookmakers pockets.

It seems Bruce's idea of "refuting" that is by continuing to ignore the disreputable behaviour that these companies get up to, filling the pages with advertising, and having a "Betting Shop Manager of the Year" award - the winners of which just happen to think FOBTs are wonderful.

It's difficult to believe that the main newspaper in the sport behaves in such an odious manner to their very supposed customers as it does now. Sir Clement Freud will be spinning in his grave at to what has become of racing journalism and the infestation of the gravy train slurpers now in office. All too afraid of their own shadows to actually say it how it is.

Oh, and for the sake of balance, lest Bruce think we're picking on him, Racing Plus isn't much better - I believe they've given Rory Jiwani a column in it.

The Newspaper itself is doomed to failure,imo.
I hope that the Online facility remains

It is a pity,I remember switching from the sporting life to racing post about 1989 I think,and was always impressed with it,but have also stopped buying it for the last six years or so.

I know a reporter over here quite well , not allowed to say anything bad about coolmore, "their advertising pays your wages"  FFS

Dinsdale been in tonite ?

The dreaded PRICE INCREASE .. forgot about that.

have to laugh, in todays classified adverts in the post, still got ad for last nights bangor cheltenham preview.

A couple of weeks ago, he was moaning about sports commentators, football in particular.

He griped about how many players are wearing gloves.  Saying Smith is in for Jones, without naming the full teams.

The next week he moaned about people who 'moaned about commentators'.

People who complained about the antics of commentators @ the Winter Olympics, should get a life.

It's amazing someone who has managed to lose nearly 50% of the newspaper's circulation during his tenure can take such a cavalier attitude towards their supposed customers...

I have bought the Racing Post everyday since it started,before that the Sporting Life and will continue to do so.

Millington is obsessed with this place and as others have said can give it but can't take it.

He carried out a one man campaign against Peter Alliss some years back that was vicious and sustained as well as being wrong,his complaints were he was too old made too many references to old golf clubs.
He also hadn't done his homework whilst he was carrying on his weekly attacks it emerged he had no idea how good a golfer Alliss was.

In the early sixties Peter Alliss played in Woodbrook in Ireland,he shattered the course record with a 62 leading to this sports headline.

                     Alliss in Wonderland

wildmanfromborneo---i knew Peter Allis was a good golfer and extremely well respected --i never knew BM had slated PA till mentioned on here -Unbelievable  for what reason ?

Probably because - Peter Alliss actually sounds HUMAN, SINCERE and FRIENDLY

Attributes that, apparently, cannot be attributed to the complainant.

onlooker--nice one

I think Millington looked at him as a stuffy old schooler, in fairness Peter Allis was stuck in a timewarp, use to have palpitations when Ian Poulter walked on course with his latest golfing garb.

Million1 he didn't just slate him he pursued him relentlessly for weeks,it was every column.

Which is why when he talks about trolls he should be listened to,he was a journalistic one.

I know Allis is set in his ways --but he is the voice of golf imo---like others have said he was a soft target---i hate bullies cant think of an easier target ---pity he didnt get stuck into a few racing pundits instead

The link below is to a Q&A session that he did for The Racing Forum in 2009.

Worth a read if you've not already seen it:

http://www.theracingforum.co.uk/horse-racing-forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=79641&start=13

In fairness to him, I think he generally does a pretty good job defending himself .

pumphol. 27 Feb 14 21:34 Joined: 29 Jul 04 | Topic/replies: 30,653 | Blogger: pumphol.'s blog
There you go homefortea

No I meant a thread on here that was removed (like many have) where his cohorts tried to take the rise out of me by drawing a big crayon about six inches tall and vertical.

How they could do that on here baffles me but hey ...

They are all journos on the Racing Post and all are winners..

They can rule the World (or at least the 30 000 who still buy the paper at full cover price......)

That many     

Yeah homefortea the thread was going for ages it had scores of pages but did betfair eventually remove it hence why it can't be tracked down?.

Salmon you will find most of that 30,000 are made up of the high street bookies copy and most of the rest end up on some trainer or stud farmers breakfast table.

The little scrot was on Talksport this morn, always mentioning renowned tipster Tom Segal ,and Millie expects loads of goals in the Soton vs Liverpool game so there's a valuable nugget of info for the listeners.

Looking at his ugly mug in the paper is bad enough,but hearing him talk really grates.

Oh and one other he fancies Godsmejudge ahead of Monbeg Dude cos the price is better very good Millie very good.

irishone
27 Feb 14 23:40

I know a reporter over here quite well , not allowed to say anything bad about coolmore, "their advertising pays your wages"  FFS

Irishone knows the score imo.  Does anyone seriously believe that any newspaper owner in their right mind would give Millybags any editorial authority?  I'd bet Millybags can't even authorise the purchase of some paper clips without it being signed off, let alone decide upon editorial content.  Just look at what happened at the lowest point in RP history when they suffered a security breach, Millbags sent out an e-mail to customers and couldn't even spell his own name...

Good point Aviboyd..

How come this thread is still open though as similar ones have been removed quicker than an online tip from Pullein...

Perhaps Bruce has been transferred from the Thursday Column to the Dole Queue to be amongst the recent arrivals that he told us would not be here...

In 1986 The Sporting Life cost 25 pence. The Racing Post costs £2.30 on Sat/Sun 2014. In 2005 sales of The Racing Post were circa 93,500 dropping year on year to 72,000 in 2007, 55,000 in 2009 and 47,000 by 2013. My graph tells me that if the average reader aint prepared to pay a fiver a copy come 2020 then the paper will fold. Bye bye Brucie, never read your drivel anyway. It was tosh.

Its nice to know that despite despising the forum posters on here with a passion you would be happy to back at 1.01 that he has read every post on this thread

if he is reading  bruce  call that lee motorhead a c unt, main reason stopped buyin rp

best thing to do is rob a copy from the bookies every day

it pi55es off the manager and BM and his bumchums dont get a penny out of you

theyve had to start nailing it to the wall in my local bills to stop the RP thieves

BM - you're a **** if you're reading this

This thread is only here waiting for the posts like the previous 2 to prove his point.Shame because there are some decent points raised.

I wondered how long it would take.

didi hamann pro punter said it all.

good news is racing plus is out all days of chelt,with their chronical order of the races and pt to pt pull out and a quid cheaper ,does me on a saturday

I took 33s this thread would last a week on here only another 3 days to go

An RP 'plant' could get it pulled a bit quick.

i agreed with first reply--wont last 5 mins

If the likes of stagnite and Paulie Galtieri continue to post on here it doesn't deserve to survive - why can't you keep your bile to yourselves.