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Steamship
27 Jan 14 14:55
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You can find all his past selections on Tipsterform, failing that siralexmay be able to help you
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Report HypeHorse January 27, 2014 2:59 PM GMT
That website doesn't show the prices he advised selections at though unfortunately.

Thanks anyway Steamship.

Any other ideas chaps?
Report rcing January 27, 2014 3:01 PM GMT
you should sell your tips HH
Report HypeHorse January 27, 2014 3:03 PM GMT
Not overly interested in that in truth rcing. But by saying that, would I hazard a guess that 37% ROI isn't that bad after all?
Report Steamship January 27, 2014 3:04 PM GMT
pm siralex he seems a decnt chap
Report Czech Made January 27, 2014 3:08 PM GMT
Hi

Not able to help with stats but do know that Pricewise selections have different point values depending on how much confidence he has in each selection,

If you look at your own stats and identify those selections that had more confidence in them and increase the points staked and downgrade those that you had little or no confidence in at the time I am sure you could improve your ROI
Report HypeHorse January 27, 2014 3:09 PM GMT
I have already done that in truth Czech. Are you suggesting that it is quite feasible for Pricewise to have an ROI of 216%? I was under the impression that 37% was extremely reasonable...
Report WFT January 27, 2014 3:11 PM GMT
Don't know about Pricewise, but Tom Segal as Pricewise Extra has a ROI of 19%.

I have stats on numerous tipsters, past and present, and nobody gets close to 37%, never mind 216%. Top is 25%.

Mind you, I don't use published prices. I use those that were available when I knew about the tip. Having said that if anyone claims returns of 216%, I would like to know where their tips are !!
Report HypeHorse January 27, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
In fairness WFT, to get 37% I am advising prices that are readily available in the morning, and not taking SP, but I felt that was all part of the game, getting the value.

I claimed that 216% was the biggest pile of drivel too, that is essentially suggesting that given the average price of horses that he tips are probably about 7/1 (guess)... that 40% of his selections win... which I know, they don't!
Report WFT January 27, 2014 3:26 PM GMT
Just using 2013's figures, his average early price is 11.64, and the sp is 9.82.

His strike rate was 10.49%

His best year was 2009, and the same figures are 9.82, 7.15, and 22.86%. His ROI that year was an exceptional 77.65%.
Report HypeHorse January 27, 2014 3:34 PM GMT
You sure that makes sense WFT, or am I reading that wrong?

Average price of 9.82 and 7.15% strike rate? I'm guessing the strike rate was a typo and missing a 1 off the front?!
Report Ivor January 27, 2014 3:39 PM GMT
think it says early 9.82 ; actual SP 7.15 at 23% s/rate.
Report WFT January 27, 2014 3:43 PM GMT
Average price of 9.82 and 7.15% strike rate? I'm guessing the strike rate was a typo and missing a 1 off the front?!

Yes, Ivor is correct.

Early price : 9.82
SP : 7.15
Strike Rate : 22.86%

Interesting that he seemed to do better when the prices were lower.
Report HypeHorse January 27, 2014 3:43 PM GMT
Apologies, what an absolute numpty!!!

Many thanks for that WFT.

You are right, that is interesting, and who says there is no value in shorter priced selections...
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