£2800 down after 4 months and Bet Victor close my account

done you a favour then

probably felt sorry.

not really,I would have beaten them in the long term.

and they obviously realised that, so didn't give me the chance. Oh well.

Lateral thinking required peter.

"system nearly perfected".
Send more funds!

I got that stuff out of my system 30 years ago racingstar.

OK, serious question then. You are down £2800 in four months, which equates to £700 a month - which of course is not to be sniffed at. At what point did you intend on turning it around in your favour? Genuine question, lateral thinking.

At any time in the future peter.

Can I ask you a question?

Why do you thoink they closed me down?

It's quite a simple answer.

Still hardly fair though.

I cannot answer that Kenny but wish I could. Was there no reasoning with them?

Well the answer is that most of my horses shortened in price, peter. About 80%. They realised that they'd had a lucky break and stopped while they were winning.

Which as I said is rather unfair, but that's the way the bookies operate.

Time to move on to the next then Kenny and hit them where it hurts

Yes i know, but I'm running out of friends.

Well I wish you luck Kenny but next time, don't wait four months, stealth attack - get in, get the job done, get out!!

Good luck Sir

cheers, good advice.

At those figures Kenny you can bet with me.

Are you an arber or do you let it ride?

let it ride these days. 10k bank went to 27k in 12 montha.

cheers Steamship. Who are you?

These are not my own picks I might add. I struggle to make sense of the form book.

Why do people still use high street bookies when betfair prices are bigger?

they're not always.

and no commission.

I used to back on bwin & lay when the betfair price shot in.
I got banned after a few days but some months later they let me back on.
Could never get enough money on though.

That's often the problem. In a way you can't blame 'em. It's not like the old days.

They've started putting their prices up extremely early on the better races,there's always an obvious rick in every one they price up but getting on to a decent amount is virtually impossible!!

They've started putting their prices up extremely early on the better races,there's always an obvious rick in every one they price up but getting on to a decent amount is virtually impossible!!

true, Lads shops accept a decent bet though. The best, by far of the shops in my experience.

I try my best to get others to get multiples on with these firms as their prices are way out,just very difficult to get all the best prices together with races coming up early.I'm even taking best prices on some but living others at sp hoping the following day some can hold up been doing that a lot lately especially if 2/3 stand out at prices..

It's a hard game. Anyway time for the hay.

There's a load of notebook horses on pmate I've put n there a lot will be winning 2 won today and one the day before,i also do previews when the cards are ok usually post them early hours.If you check on there after midnight there should be some little gems and hopefully still prices available,won't be one this week unless it's sunday there's a swell meeting on.Could be on the wee hours of sunday morning.

Many thanks for that. I've sent you a pm (possibly 2) hope that's ok.

closed my mate today


       
   

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12:46:51 : marc: they really are bloody ****s. theyb offer a good price and if you take it they shut youb down!

12:47:16 : marc: do todays 2 bets stand?

back in 2004 I had an account with a medium sized independent, they took all my bets and I was £24k up in 6 months

anyway, I phone up one day to have a bet and they said 'Rick we've decided not to take any more bets from you, we don't think we'll get it back'

fcuking mugs! I must have done about £50k in the next 6 months at least!

Whats the issue here? you've admitted you're a dirty arber- every bet you do will be an arb, therefore they know you'll win long term and close you down. You are bad for business, its not rocket science. Why you'd post on a gambling forum when you don't know what that entails i don't know.

f.a to do with Arbing imo ,u bet the wrong dogs or orses and the bells start ringing .I know of 2 accounts -5k plus both restricted one
365 the other lads...

I had the same prob with 'No BetVictor' not long ago as can be seen in my previous post.Today my 'Sky No Bet' account has been restricted to a ceiling profit of approx £300 on any bet.I sent an email asking the reason and got this reply
Greg F Response via email on 20/02/2014 12.04 PM
Hi Paul
Your account has been restricted due to your betting patterns. Most, if not all, your selections are top prices or in a position were you can arbitrage and thus make a win-win situation. As this is unprofitable business we reserve the right to restrict accounts in order to manage our positions and keep our liabilities in check. We would rather lay 10 accounts £25 than just 1 account £250 so a restriction has to be put in place in order to do so. Your account is constantly monitored and reviewed so any change in your betting patterns will be reflected in your restriction.

If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind Regards,

Greg F
Customer Care Team

to which i have replied(but doubt it will make any difference)

Hi Greg,
I do lay horses on the exchanges but never ones that I back. Sometimes if I am out or the price is better elsewhere I will back with yourself or Sporting Bet.Up until now you have accommodated the size of bets that I request.
I can empathise with your standing but you are a bookie,after all, and if you are not willing to lay a bet to lose £2k (which would be my general bet) beggers belief. After all you could ‘arb’ yourself if you wanted through the trade to avoid the loss if necessary.
If you are not going to lay to around this amount I may as well leave.
I don’t win all the time otherwise I would be living in the West Indies or alike lol
Cheers Paul

Bookies..............i've S**t 'em

don't waste your oxygen Chalkie with these shysters, you will need it in later life

Got this email from ASDA

Dear Mr dave1357,

We wish to advise you that we are restructuring our approach to how we administrate our accounts.
As a result, I regret that it has been decided that your account will no longer be eligible for the cheapest choc biscuits concession.

We realise you will probably be disappointed to lose cheap choc biscuits but would reassure you that as a valued ASDA customer you will continue to receive our first class service and variety of other biscuits.

All other terms and conditions remain the same and we sincerely look forward to your continued custom at ASDA.


Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind Regards,

Dimitrios
ASDA Contact centre.

Sainsburys have accused me of arbing wine in their sales and have restricted me to only 3 cases.

Feb 20, 2014 -- 3:39PM, loper wrote:

Sainsburys have accused me of arbing wine in their sales and have restricted me to only 3 cases.

3 cases a day?

3 cases a day?

You can get round the shops and pay cash. Wear an ever changing  disguise. Just make sure they dont get a mug shot.

Ladbrokes Chief Trader :-

3.55pm - "shut that **** down and restrict him to £0.00 max steaks, how dare he back that with us at 8/1 when 8.6 on betfair"

3.59pm - "hello oncourse reps at Wolverhampton, place 5 x £500 bets on the fav in the 4.00pm at 3/1 and below, I want it down to 7/4 as the stalls open to avoid about £100,000 in Best Odds online payments"

Feb 20, 2014 -- 3:11PM, Big Boss wrote:

don't waste your oxygen Chalkie with these shysters, you will need it in later life

No joy big boss as you say lol they just said they would monitor my betting patterns.FFS there ain't going to be any if they won't take the bet will there lol
At this rate i will have to try and open a Ladcrooks account
Best of all is that today i was trying to back Princess Caetani with SkyNoBet but they would only lay it for less than a Monkey.That incensed that i didn't bother backing it elsewhere so saved me money lol

did they contact you to tell you it has been closed ,



or just stopped you logging in ?

short term losers not good enough any more !





long term losers only ! are welcome 

Restricted so tried to have a fiver on a virtual and got offered £1.00 p. they said it was the market the bets were placed and  not specific to me.
Maybe they think i'm in with one of the jockeys at Sprint Valley;

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Hi, how can I help?

Can you please find out why my bets are being restricted to a few pence? I have not backed any winners? Thanks

Having checked your recent attempts, it appears that the bets are being rejected by automatic risk controls that have been put in place by our trading department. This is not specific to your account but attributed to the market itself. Unfortunately we are not in a position to override any of these restrictions and we apologise for any inconvenience caused.

A couple of pound on a virtual? It doesnt make any sense?

The restrictions are a Trading decision and unfortunately we cannot override these.

I understand this but is there any point in having an acvount if you can only place pennies? They/you say they are automatic risk controls which I fully understand but all the bets are limited to a few pence, this has to be unique to me , if it was in place for everyone you would not have any turn over. I understand you are probably asked this question lots of times but something here is not making sense.

I understand your frustration however there is nothing I can do in relation to the restrictions you are meeting when placing your bets. These restrictions have been put in place by the Trading department who are responsible for the liability of the markets they offer.

Sonia £1 on a 10/1 is not a liability. I dont have a problem with anyone restricting bets, you are in it to make money, but I have not backed any winners, I would just like to know the reason the restriction have appeared all of a sudden?

These restrictions are not specific to your account but to the market or selection. As advised this is a Trading decision and cannot be overridden. I understand your frustration however this is all I can tell you at this time.

Ok I know there is nothing you can do but the answer you are coming up with honestly dont make sense, and is there any way you can relay that to the trader please. Does this mean that any football bets are also restricted, if they are there is no point in me wasting my time next time I want a football bet. Thanks.

Unfortunately I cannot advise which markets or selections have restrictions and which dont. I will certainly pass your feedback to the Traders in relation to this.

Ok by the way I am not some disgruntled punter I am a bookmakers with a shop and the whole this as I have said does not make sense, all I want is a resonable answer as to why its happening..

I understand your point and I do apologise that I am unable to give you any further information.

Ok cheers, it looks like the internet is going to put an awful lot of people out of a job, I have dealt on the phone with Boyles for years and years something somewhere is going very very wrong, good luck have a good night.

Goodbye, have a good evening!

I wanted £50 win on Quality art 12/1 some 3 Mths ago with a William Hill internet account, the little " refer to a trader" icon went spinning around and they offered £7.50 !! I left it and it got beat so I was a bit lucky that time.

they want to be an online FBOT , not a bookie , so forget em