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Linking to the same firm as off middle of jan
Linking to the same firm as off middle of jan
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seeing is believing
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hows it going to be policed
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The statement also prohibits a single bookmaker linking their own pitches when they use different trading names on the different pitches.
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Rdt get a mention
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This will be a major blow to some firms whose modus operandi is to rent out and link up
Yes RDT will not be allowed to network them up |
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Rdt won't have much control as once pcs are linked
Then there not needed to link up Plus now plenty of other books using competitors |
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Other competitors have been told not to allow it either
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Will other tracks follow suit?
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What type of picks do this ? I would have thought that one of the picks would be unworkable solo so the racecourse would be losing out enforcing this.
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WELL IT CAN BE A LOSSS TO THE RACECOURSE IAN ......BUT MY EXAMPLE -CONTARY TO BELIEF IM NOT MOANING ITS JUST A MATHMATICALL OBSERVATION IS THIS-THE MAJORITY OF SINGLE OPERATORS WILL BE BETTER OFF AND THE SOONER THEY STOP FIRMS GOING TWOS UP IN THE RING THE BETTTER OF THE MAJORITY WILL BE ....BUT THERS AS MUCH CHANCE AS THAT AS FLYING TO THE MOON AS 2 OUT OF THE 3 MAIN NEGOITIATING OFFICERS ARE RIDDLE WITH IT
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What will happen to Joe Bloggs?
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Johnny just to keep you up to date.
For many months now the association nominated members of the FRB have been - RBA - Robin Grossmith NAB - Tony Styles ARB - Phil Crisp although Mick Williams signed the JCR "link up" letter for the ARB. |
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I JUST READ THAT UGWS ON THE AGT WEBSITE ....GOT IT WRONG AGAIN ...OH WELL NEVER MIND,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT IIN THEORY ,MY IDEA FOR THE MAJORITY OF BOOKS WHERE ONLY ONE JOINT PER PROPRIETOR IS BETTER FOR THE ..........MAJORITY..... ITS MINORITY THAT ARE DILUTING THE TURN OVER OF THE MAJORITY ...WOULD U AGREE
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ILL GIVE YOU UWGS AN EXAMPLE TO MAKE IT CLEARER .................AT HAYDOCK IN THE SILVER 2 SATURDAYS AGO ....THERE WERE 13 BOOKS 10 PROPRIETERS WITH WHICH 3 OF THEM DOUBLED UP KE GE BE ..PAUL JOHNSON...MT RACING........THERE ALL GOOD CHAPS AND IM FREINDLEY WITH ALL 3 IN FACT MT RACING I GOT A LIFT WITH HIM .........THE BUISNESS WASNT THAT GREAT .......SO IF THERED BEEN 10 BOOKS TAKINF £100 A RACE (for example)....NOW THERES 3 DOUBLING UP THERE NOW TAKING £76 A RACE.................SO THE OTHER 7 ARE NOW 24% A RACE WORSE OFF.......AND THEYVE ALLOWED THE MINORITY TO DO THIS TO THERE BUISNESS ..................ILL HAPPILY STAND CORRECTED IF ANY ONE WANTS TO POINT OUT ANY THING DIFFERNET ................UWGS WOULD YOU AGREE
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THEBIZ WAS EVENLY SPREAD THAT DAY I WOULD SAY THERE WOULDNT HAVE BEEEN ANY ADVANTAGE POINT WHERE EVER YAD BET
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HERES ANOTHER ONE ..........IF THERE TURNOVER HAD BEEN £2,000 THAT DAY .....THERE 400 ODD QUID DOWN ......GAME MUST BE GOOD
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joe bloggs is a survivor
wheels in motion as we speak  |
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HELLO DARLING
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tommorrow afternoon matthew im going to be .................joe bloggs (hopefully)
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Johnny it really does not matter what you think, what i think or what anyone else thinks.
The simple fact is that at least until 2052 "Doubling up" is here to stay. It is permitted by the terms of the 2012 licences, the laws of the land, the 2005 Gambling Act,the Gambling Commission and apart from very extreme circumstances by the OFT. So whether it should or should not be allowed is a totally academic question. IT IS ALLOWED !!!! Whether individual bookmakers regard this as an opportunity or a threat to their own businesses is up to them but it is here until at least 2052 and they need to plan accordingly. Getting worked up about this and spending time debating the rights and wrongs will not help. The situation will not change and anyone who thinks that it might is just kidding themselves. |
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Well done Joe,i knew you were one of "The Good Guys".
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doubling up will be allowed as per the announcement from jcr today. no networking with different trade names, simple and to be honest the right ruling. its strong odds on others courses will follow suit as per the ew terms. next on the agenda schedule y renting ??? ps it will be self policed due to everyone having an interest in the ring and am sure betting ring managers will be briefed accordingly. a step in the right direction in my opinion.
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r/snake you know as well as I do the brm's don't give a damn.
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Rlyl can't respond as is busy doing the rota for Newcastle all weather 2015,don't worry Dave D you're in.
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am sure mr clare from jcr will care enough and I believe the majority of the ring will be in favour of this decision and will be quick off the mark to highlight any books breaking the ruling. if jcr legals are of the opinion networking under different trade names is against the 2012 agreement then books breaking the ruling post jan 2014 may find themselves selling.
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LETS HOPE SO SNAKE
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single manned joints performing multiple price changes whilst worker is getting into his cheese and onion sandwich might be a give away
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anyone want to sell chelt off lower? :-)
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ARE THEY THE PITCHES THAT ALL HAVE YELLOW HEAD BOARDS????????
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black n red I think
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THATS RIGHT THEY ALL END IN SON
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Would I be mistaken several comments here with strong expressions of self interest being made ? No change there ! Find a loophole and drive a coach and horses through it - similar to the Schedule 'Y' practices.
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thanks joe !!! hope he noticed
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UWGS THANKS FOR REPLYING .....I ONLY BET NOW ABOUT 6 TIMES A YEAR SO IT DOESNT AFFECT ME BUT WHERE YOU GET THE IDEA THAT IM GETTING WORKED UP ABOUT IT FROM THEN I DONT KNOW ....Q,WHO NEGOTIATED THE CLAUSE THAT DOUBLING UP WAS HERE TILL 2052 ,AS A MATTER OF INTREST ??
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i personaly am a bit dissapointed with our leaders latest decision.i was lookiig forward this summer to having a link up with the paul stone outfit at y'mouth i cudn't help noticing they took nearly £8oo on acouple of days last yr!! to top it up when asking the great man about a future venture he said they had only got 3 shareholders at present and wud welcome another partner to offset his liabilities 1 race i kid u not they stood 1 for £48 with only 3 of them in it
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THREES INTO 48 GOES THEY HAD IT FOR 50 THEY BACKED IT BACK TO WIN 2 QUID
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Johnny - you can bet it wasn't somebody who did not want to do it ( i.e double up ). It is interesting that the two recent initiatives to create a more level playing field i.e standard terms and restrictions on linked pitches have both involved JCR. In most walks of life if parties have a vested interest in issues are up for discussion/decision they exclude themselves from the decision making process. Does this principle apply regards some aspects of pitch administration - I think not ! Is it time for the JCR and their equivalents to take a more active, impartial role in affairs to protect the interests of the run of the mill on course bookmaker ?
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ITS MY GUESS DEMOCRAT THAT THE MINORITY HAD A HAND IN VOTING FOR THIS MEASURE TO TAKE PLACE TILL 2052 ,BUT LIKE THE MAN SAID THERES NOTHING ANYBODY CAN DOO ,IT DONT AFFECT ME THAT IS A CERTAINTY ....BUT THANKS FOR STICKING YA 2 BOBS WORTH IN
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johnny partner
£285 divided by 2 = |