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30 Nov 13 23:16
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just curious ...can't think why it might be deemed necessary/desirable although it would be probably easy and cheap enough to do.(Unless of course they had to move the standsLaugh)

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By:
salmon spray
When: 30 Nov 13 23:18
Not in the last 50 years.
By:
salmon spray
When: 30 Nov 13 23:19
Though Epsom used to have an 18f course which had right-hand bends but that wasn't really part of the main course till the last mile or so.
By:
Vubiant
When: 01 Dec 13 00:02
Apparently all US tracks go LH and always have ...and interestingly, all Athletics racing is LH.
I think having the RH + LH variation is good overall though -for variety and versatility.
By:
salmon spray
When: 01 Dec 13 00:09
As far as I know the only suspicion of a right-hand bend in the US is a slight one in the 6f chute at Santa Anita.
There is a majority of left hand tracks in GB but percentage-wise an even higher number of right-hand tracks in Ireland.
The two biggest flat courses in France are right-handed.
Not sure about Australia. Don't think I've seen a right-handed one there but have never taken that much interest.
By:
Born Unlucky
When: 01 Dec 13 00:15
This has got my little brain buzzingGrin. With flat racing, LH or RH has never been a factor for me. Anyone got any thoughts on this?
By:
salmon spray
When: 01 Dec 13 00:34
Record of US breds on R-H courses might be interesting,though the bloodlines are so mixed up now it probably wouldn't be significant.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 01 Dec 13 00:48
just back emm e/w
By:
sparrow
When: 01 Dec 13 06:55
Calder racecourse in the US used to have a right handed race once a year. It was a special meeting for some reason, although I wouldn't know if they still run it.
By:
moondan
When: 01 Dec 13 08:22
No your right its not deemed necessary or desirable, its a lot like sectional timing on our courses where there are hills and dales, rail movements, extremes of going,  different grass lengths on different days and jockeyship that requires brains and bravery and hundreds of thousands of fans who like it that way and great trainers who laugh at the very notion.
Of course I do realise I know nothing, I have never owned a horse, trained a horse, sat on a horse and only rode a race in a very rare dream, so would never tell anyone that had done all those things, or even those that never have, that they are backward, unworthy, unsophisticated.
Great britain can rightly claim to have the most varied and best racing in the world and thats a fact.
We have bookmakers, Betfair and largely a reputation that the rest of the world can only envy so---
Oh dear. I feel another ban coming onCry
By:
mange
When: 01 Dec 13 09:45
Dick Frances rode his 1st winner at Bangor 3/5/1947
By:
posy
When: 01 Dec 13 09:51
have you noticed that in all parade rings bar one the horses go around clockwise.....
By:
mange
When: 01 Dec 13 09:54
There are R & Left handed horses...........U cant get away from that
By:
TheAnorak
When: 01 Dec 13 10:01
Alexandra Palace in North London, aka the Frying Pan, was the first track I ever attended and in the 60's, I'm almost certain that they went round the loop right handed - i.e in a one mile race they would start against the stand side rail, bear left where the course split and return up the far side rail. This is exactly the same as what happens in longer races today at Hamilton and Salisbury.

But if you take a look at pre war newsreel film of Ally Pally on the www.britishpathe.com website, there's no question that the horses are running the loop in the opposite direction, starting down the far rail in the straight and returning up the stand side rail.

So I think the answer is that at least one track did, although I've no idea when this happened.
By:
mange
When: 01 Dec 13 10:03
it could look like that at Brighton...........as they go to the start Grin
By:
jimnast
When: 01 Dec 13 10:11
IF Folkestone reopens it will become a left handed track.
By:
jimnast
When: 01 Dec 13 10:12
posy

which one are you thinking off ?
By:
moondan
When: 01 Dec 13 10:17
I think if you changed the tradition at any track you could end up with more horses planting themselves at the start, all the "real stable talk" would be about rebellion and how their mums and dads used to do it. Just a mad morning after the night before thought.Grin
By:
ged
When: 01 Dec 13 10:58
Iffley Road (where Roger Bannister broke the 4 min mile) used to be right-handed.
By:
ged
When: 01 Dec 13 11:01
Athletes on tracks throughout the world run in an anti-clockwise direction. ‘Left hand inside’ was adopted at the first London Olympics in 1908 and it has been used ever since. However the UK Amateur Athletic Association left open the choice of direction and as late as 1948, Oxford University athletes still ran clockwise. Some of the reasons advanced for this are, firstly, that with the majority of humans being right-handed, the same applies to your feet, so you push off with your right foot, and you are automatically steered in an anti-clockwise direction. Secondly, with the heart being on the left-hand side of our bodies, running anti-clockwise is more comfortable and reduces the stress on the heart.

One study though showed that statistically people tend to turn left more easily than right, although the variability is large. This may suggest that running in a left-hand turn (anti-clockwise) is easier than in a right-hand turn (clockwise). But why? Well the study concluded that ‘veering is related to a sense of straight ahead that could be shaped by vestibular inputs’. Whatever that means, it suggests that the two reasons given earlier are incorrect.
By:
mange
When: 01 Dec 13 11:05
I should say.....caus most people are Right Handed with the right leg doing most work (on the outside)

also horses lead wiv 1 leg or the other
By:
PairOfSuitedAces
When: 01 Dec 13 11:07
""Not sure about Australia. Don't think I've seen a right-handed one there...""

Hi Salmon Spray, the last time I was in Oz (2006/7)the Gold Coast track (where they hold the Magic Millions) was right handed.
By:
ged
When: 01 Dec 13 11:10
" in Australia and New Zealand, there are both clockwise and counter-clockwise tracks. All "Spring Gland Slam" races in Melbourne are raced counter-clockwise, so horses domiciled in areas with predominantly clockwise tracks can be disoriented and not perform to potential."
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 01 Dec 13 11:12
If Towcester changed the direction it would become the 2nd downhill all the way round track(Brighton being the other) in the country
By:
salmon spray
When: 01 Dec 13 11:14
Ah! Interesting. I must admit I take a lot more interest in US racing than Australian. My only images from the latter are the Melbourne Cup and Black Caviar winning the odd one,which happened to be all left-handed.
Odd that the US which tends to have State bodies running it should be the only major racing country that is uniformly one way. Don't anybody say Dubai please.
By:
mange
When: 01 Dec 13 11:16
nearly..............they climb the last fur Brighton..........
By:
sparrow
When: 01 Dec 13 11:16
salmon, do calder still run that right handed race?
By:
ged
When: 01 Dec 13 11:19
According to its website, Market Rasen racecourse stages PTP racing in a counter-clockwise direction. I've never been, but I did have an argument a few years ago at a New Years party with a woman who was convinced that Market Rasen was a left-handed track. I was of course sure that she was wrong. But in hindsight, she had perhaps been to a PTP meeting.
By:
dave1357
When: 01 Dec 13 11:21
Clair Balding imo
By:
ged
When: 01 Dec 13 11:21
Same size, but much older.
By:
David Fishwick Minibus Sales
When: 01 Dec 13 11:26
maisons-laffitte stages races both ways round
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 01 Dec 13 11:30
Doesnt Bangor race in a different direction for ptp ?
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 01 Dec 13 11:31
The old Phoenix Park sprint track was a different direction to the round track if I remember correctly
By:
minardi
When: 01 Dec 13 12:10
yes PTP is often different direction - I think Market Rasen is like that
By:
allpoints
When: 01 Dec 13 12:12
Market Rasen hasn't had pointing on there for a number of years but yes it was the opposite way round to the N.H. course.
As for Bangor they still have points & they do also race the opposite way round to the N.H. course.
By:
posy
When: 01 Dec 13 12:16
hi jimnast.....think goodwood go anti clockwise around parade ring
By:
jimnast
When: 01 Dec 13 12:38
hi posy

I thought you meant goodwood Ludlow also goes the same way around.
By:
posy
When: 01 Dec 13 12:50
That's interesting; didn't know about Ludlow
By:
jimnast
When: 01 Dec 13 12:58
nice track good racing posy well worth a visit.
By:
Dr Gonzo
When: 01 Dec 13 12:58
As per regvarney's post above - i've no idea why Bangor don't switch direction and move the winning post round the corner in front of the stands.
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