Pool House pulled

Should've gone to specsavers

gets on my goat when mug odds on backers think that these horses can never be beat, and when they are there is always something or someone to blame.

best horse won!

i agree this trainer balding always gets ons odds stuffed, if he got at it a fraction earlier it would have won , these jockeys have it down to a tee to get beat now by hd or less , this trainer is wrank and given that he is related to queen gives him license to do what he wants . we all remember the ballinger ridge case with fallon and who trained that horse the father balding, the **** was never brought in bout ride where fallon was murdered , fallon rode for him after that ride too so you have to ask questions bout balding, if trainers like this were thrown out of game it would be far healthier, im preaching day day out bout thios trainer stopping favs ans all the apologists knock me

you must be getting a good turn laying them then mick

poorup just want to highlight the sculldugery to be honest son

Hello Mick - are your stats on odds-on shots more accurate for Balding that they were for Haggas??  Not sure of the relevance of Ballinger Ridge, given it was not odds on!. Ballingers was trained by Balding jr not his father.

yeah it was trained by a balding , they are all the same ilk  and fallon rode for him again after that

Have to say that it was a strange ride from Probert, having seen the race a couple of times.

Had the horse in a perfect position from the off and was even shovelling the coal on the bend with a crack of the whip on the furlong pole and as the horse started responding and bridging the gap, Probert decided moderate hands and heels was the answer.

If i had backed the horse i would be asking why.

Thanks Mick, so that's one error dealt with.  Shall we move on to the others..

"Balding always gets ons odds stuffed" - Your words! and assuming this means what I think it means. What is your evidence for this statement.

"this trainer is wrank(sic) and is related to the Queen etc". Good one this!, Any evidence base for these statements or are you guessing again. 

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Utter rubbish from Gay Icon here. Check out the form of Pool House. Beaten fav on his last 3 runs, including at 2/5 and LTO even Hughes couldn't get him home in front. The horse is a bit of a dog/has concentration issues and is quite happy to chase one home. The only surprise is that connections haven't reached for the blinkers for him yet. I'll bet good money they will be on next time out.

go and **** off blackbarn you apologist

its well known the baldings are related  to queen check it out son

Mick - bit surprised that the abuse cut in so early - doesn't usually start till mid-evening. Do you have an up to date list of your rancid and wrank(sic) trainers?  Just in case I missed any.

please blackbarn , just tell me why probert did not get at horse a tad earlier , forfet the nonsense is ungenuine and stuff , the fact is if he gave it a few cracks earlier it would have got up

Mick, you must be the unluckiest punter in the world - you seem to have done your money on every single shorty that gets beat and apparently every single one of them is because it was pulled.

Nice try Mick!  As you know my comments on here relate to your post claiming amongst other things that Balding odds on shots always get beaten.

those 2 quids add up gonzo

well they would if he could count without the use of his fingers and toes

there is some dirt apologists bout on here elise you are a proper ****

i very rarely bets on odds on , im concerned bout the integrity in our game,cant i not have an opinion without being insulted but these apologist dont want the truth

Mick - still waiting for your current list of rancid/wrank(sic)trainers?

If you could also let me know what time you intend to drop out of this argument. I wasted a lot of time looking for some kind of contrition from you in the face of the facts relating to Haggas' odds on shots.

Kind regards.

look it blackbarn its pointless arguing with you

Mick - lets assume and agree that, for the time being, everyone that disagrees with you is really an "apologist" and/or is really one of those **** words that you regularly use.

You can of course have an opinion, and I for one will not call you names or abuse you.

Perhaps you could now address the points made to you.

i dont have stats right on hand as you want but i know balding gets beat on lots of odds on shots and maybe haggas not as bad

Mick - We are not arguing, I am asking questions.  You, are not replying and again resorting to abuse. It's Haggas all over again.  Here's to the next trainer that falls foul of you.

look blackbarn , well agree to disagree, just think the present system is very corrupt

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its well known the baldings are related  to queen check it out son






Never heard that before...

cant i not have an opinion without being insulted but these apologist dont want the truth

Course you can. The problem is, many of your opinions/accusations seem to be based on little more than thin air, and when you are challenged on them you become abusive.

And I can assure you that I am far from an apologist for the sport and the way it is run.

I've read some stupid threads before however this one is now ludicrous ; Andrew Balding is an honest and straight-forward trainer and it is libelous to suggest he instructs his jockeys to pull the stables' horses.

go and look at the race posy

posy mark my words you ;ll see balding horses at 12/1 and bigger winnning races by 4/5 lengths like odds on shots, he does this regularly

you talk rank bollx, get a life

you insult people  elise , never say anything constructive , just straight to the insults son

i've watched it twice and to be honest I think the horse is a tricky ride....i see nothing that would lead me to the conclusion that the horse was pulled however having said that I'm not a huge fan of Probert and the horse might respond better to a stronger jockey.Regardless of the jockey the point i'm making in my earlier post is that Balding is completely straight.

well posy i dont agree with ya ,this trainer leaves a bad taste for me

mick9694
15 Nov 13 16:05

its well known the baldings are related to queen check it out son

Rubbish. Whilst there have been Earls in the Balding family over the years, they are not related to the Queen. Check it out.

mick9694 - "you insult people  elise , never say anything constructive , just straight to the insults son" - The words pot, kettle and black spring immediately to mind.

What is this new and regular use of "son"? Based on your previous posts, I have always had the distinct impression that you were of tender years.  Was I wrong?

To suggest this horse was "stopped" demonstrates an utter lack of knowledge.
I sincerely hope the OP never gets to sit on a Jury.

this trainer leaves a bad taste for me

Like most of them then.

One poster saying:

Angel Gabrial 15 Nov 13 15:26 
Have to say that it was a strange ride from Probert, having seen the race a couple of times.

Had the horse in a perfect position from the off and was even shovelling the coal on the bend with a crack of the whip on the furlong pole and as the horse started responding and bridging the gap, Probert decided moderate hands and heels was the answer.

and then another saying:

mick9694 15 Nov 13 14:29 
i agree this trainer balding always gets ons odds stuffed, if he got at it a fraction earlier it would have won.....

which just goes to show how 2 people can see the same race in different ways.

Seeing as though the horse was drawn out high and wide in a sprint with an early left hand bend, wouldn't it have been far easier to deliberately miss the break and then either travel out wide all the way or drop in behind runners to not get a run and use those as excuses to get beaten, rather than get out well from a bad draw to gain a good position up with the pace?

For what it's worth my own take on it was that the horse in 2nd for much of the race came wider off the final bend (as show by given the Godolphin runner a run up the inside) and taking it towards Probert's horse, but also when he (Prober) first went for the whip his horse shied away from it and towards the other runner, so he had to slightly pull his horse off of the other runner before then reverting back to using the whip again and gave it around 5 smacks in all.

It's just as well though that none of the jockeys on the winners ease up a little at the line if those on the beaten ones can apparently judge it to a head now despite in this case making up about 3L inside the final half-furlong!

Oh and Andrew Balding allowed Fallon to ride his horses again because he's got a pair of eyes in his head and a brain and knew the Ballinger Ridge ride was nothing more than a monumental human error genuine c0ck up but nothing else.

Got to laugh at this thread, every clown complaining about the ride, yet no fooker backed it!!!!!


Brilliant

Freddie - did you read the thread?  Only two complaining about the ride, the rest are complaining about the two complaining about the ride. 

Do try to keep up otherwise we will need a thread for those who are mistakenly complaining about those who are complaining about those who are complaining about the ride.

12 posts in 8 years...may have needed the run out....

True Glasgow, but I thought he was tenderly handled in the early stages of the post, and  found little when let down towards the finish.

I thinkif we had a head on camera angle then i fancy that Probert was probably preoccupied with stearing his horse away from the leader. A head shot would probably shut Mick up.

A head shot would probably shut Mick up

you won't be short of offers imo

elise your a horrible rancid person , you started the personal insults at me , i never personally insulted you rancid weed, id bet that your perennial loser too

Mick to Elise 22.47 today - "i never personally insulted you rancid weed, id bet that your perennial loser too"

Mick to Elise 15.29 today - " there is some dirt apologists bout on here elise you are a proper ****

he initially insulted me blackbarn

mammmmmmmmmmmmmmmy,he called me names

last 5 years UK Flat, Andrew Balding with odds on chances before today, 31-58 (53.4%) for 9.83 loss (16.9%)

Since 2012, 22-36 (61.1%) for 2.41 loss (6.7%).

And in 2013 only, 11-18 (61.1%) for 0.56 loss (3.1%)

Seems to be improving his strike rate with these short ones.

ffs Pedro. Giving him proper data means that he'll just move on to another trainer. The same or similar info was given to him re his last crusade on Haggas, before his transition to Balding.