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I wanted 80 quid each way on a horse for the paddy power I had to use 3 phone accounts and 2 shops,
its about time something was done about these wasters masquerading as bookmakers.
its about time something was done about these wasters masquerading as bookmakers.
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If you cant beat the game in the 10 mins before the off as a straight punter you cant beat the game
it's punting 2013
it's punting 2013
BETWEEN 10-11 AT LADDYS ITS 11-10 RED AND BLACK
- go into the shop put a £100 on the machine
- win a bit lose a bit try no to do too much damage
- gesticulate a lot, head in hands etc
- say things like 'Red is "due" 'these are my lucky numbers' .... etc
- go up to the counter looking flustered
- have your bet on the horse
= cost of doing business
- win a bit lose a bit try no to do too much damage
- gesticulate a lot, head in hands etc
- say things like 'Red is "due" 'these are my lucky numbers' .... etc
- go up to the counter looking flustered
- have your bet on the horse
= cost of doing business
Nov 13, 2013 -- 10:21AM, Pilsudski wrote:
Sorry,don't understand last post.
If you entirely ignore ppl who post in capslock you won't miss much.
DAVE WHY DONT YA STICK YA HEAD DOWN THE TOILET AND PULL THE CHAIN ILL BE ROUND FOR SZHIT LATER ON
With regard to all these joke bookies, I read a new book last week entitled Speaking With Forked Tongues
by someone called Mick McDermott. It lambasts, with evidence all the leading bookies for closing accounts,
restricting people to SP only or offering pathetic bets in response to modest requests. It also states quite clearly
that the entire racing media wont go near the issue as many are closely linked to bookmaker money.
by someone called Mick McDermott. It lambasts, with evidence all the leading bookies for closing accounts,
restricting people to SP only or offering pathetic bets in response to modest requests. It also states quite clearly
that the entire racing media wont go near the issue as many are closely linked to bookmaker money.
It also states quite clearly
that the entire racing media wont go near the issue as many are closely linked to bookmaker money.
i don't think that bit is exactly a revalation m8 but i may seek out this book out
that the entire racing media wont go near the issue as many are closely linked to bookmaker money.
i don't think that bit is exactly a revalation m8 but i may seek out this book out
so journalists/media are part of the racing mafia..thats true you dont ever hear them talk about this issue...so they all continue to get on,,,blackmail i suppose..but they are all on for the ride
im just a small stakes punter the odd lucky 15 etc..but had some winning months and getting restricted all over the place...time to get on and make this a much bigger issue.
i think there is much credence in what you say when you read journo blogs and bits of stories about there punting day and the amounts they are betting in,
usual stuff about a them and us issue and frankly dont weall get fed up with gettin a feckin raw deal
the elite dont care at all so long as they are all aboard the gravy train
im just a small stakes punter the odd lucky 15 etc..but had some winning months and getting restricted all over the place...time to get on and make this a much bigger issue.
i think there is much credence in what you say when you read journo blogs and bits of stories about there punting day and the amounts they are betting in,
usual stuff about a them and us issue and frankly dont weall get fed up with gettin a feckin raw deal
the elite dont care at all so long as they are all aboard the gravy train
If you entirely ignore ppl who post in capslock you won't miss much.
Superb.
Superb.
I know a well known RUK pundit who is a professional punter , he told me basically he only gets on because of his high profile in the game.
I vowed that if any bookmaker refused to take one of my bets ,I would oppose their license,but I only have a bet in the bookmakers3/4 times a month and they are normally a treble or an accumalator when I take the wife shopping.
I vowed that if any bookmaker refused to take one of my bets ,I would oppose their license,but I only have a bet in the bookmakers3/4 times a month and they are normally a treble or an accumalator when I take the wife shopping.
Nov 13, 2013 -- 10:10AM, TheJudge wrote:
- go into the shop put a £100 on the machine - win a bit lose a bit try no to do too much damage- gesticulate a lot, head in hands etc- say things like 'Red is "due" 'these are my lucky numbers' .... etc- go up to the counter looking flustered - have your bet on the horse= cost of doing business
they rarely refuse a bet altogether frank but will restrict stakes & go sp only on a regular basis.
i had a terrific argument with a baldy manager about his sp only restriction on a race which the poster behind him declared was best odds "guaranteed"
sadly he was too fic to see the contradiction.
i had a terrific argument with a baldy manager about his sp only restriction on a race which the poster behind him declared was best odds "guaranteed"
sadly he was too fic to see the contradiction.
try betfair fixed odds mate - they ll lay ya.
or why not try the exchange? Could ya not get the 80 quid on there m8???
or why not try the exchange? Could ya not get the 80 quid on there m8???
its a wonderful read and also very funny- 3 titbits from the book 1 boyles more likely to come across dr livingstone
than anyone with a usable boylesport account 2 skybet in order for skybet staff to see money they would have to be
taken on a day trip to the vaults of the bank of England 3 Ladbrokes had they been around at the time of the crimea war
they would only have been paying first four on the charge of the light brigade (673 runners). I also like the picture
painted of the 3 shepherds calling into a betfred shop in Bethlehem on their way to the stable to see jesus and fred
done seated by an fobt inside Westminster abbey giving us all a xmas blessing.
than anyone with a usable boylesport account 2 skybet in order for skybet staff to see money they would have to be
taken on a day trip to the vaults of the bank of England 3 Ladbrokes had they been around at the time of the crimea war
they would only have been paying first four on the charge of the light brigade (673 runners). I also like the picture
painted of the 3 shepherds calling into a betfred shop in Bethlehem on their way to the stable to see jesus and fred
done seated by an fobt inside Westminster abbey giving us all a xmas blessing.
This book would be a good opportunity to go for the jugular and expose the whole corrupt bookmaker media cartel, imo - it only needs to be promoted by someone who knows what they are doing and the mainstream media will be all over it, imho...
Ladbrokes had they been around at the time of the crimea war
they would only have been paying first four on the charge of the light brigade (673 runners)
they would have only paid first 3 as it wasn't a handicap.
they would only have been paying first four on the charge of the light brigade (673 runners)
they would have only paid first 3 as it wasn't a handicap.
I wouldn't mind reading this book any idea where I can get hold of a copy ?
Back to the book which I can thoroughly recommend. Some very funny cartoons in the book as well, it says
on the back cover you can contact the author by e-mail mickmcdermott79@outlook.com
on the back cover you can contact the author by e-mail mickmcdermott79@outlook.com
Ladbrokes had they been around at the time of the crimea war
they would only have been paying first four on the charge of the light brigade (673 runners).
very good!
they would only have been paying first four on the charge of the light brigade (673 runners).
very good!
The author could do us all a favour by posting copies of his book to a few of the National Papers, see if anyone's interested in taking up the gauntlet? but don't hold your breath.
£11.50 including postage and packing contact the author mickmcdermott79@outlook.com.
^wumpkins and pharmacist not many posts prior to this thread?
well wide of the mark s.kenbo im not a regular contributor because the standard of the debate
is sometimes not up to scratch after reading of a book which highlights bookmaker abuses I was
happy to try to get a copy for myself I will report back once ive read it .
is sometimes not up to scratch after reading of a book which highlights bookmaker abuses I was
happy to try to get a copy for myself I will report back once ive read it .
Does any one know if this book has been professionally printed or is it a home made job ?
Mate of mine just read it, going to lend it me tomorrow, says he couldn't stop laughing
a good read this book is on twitter
@mickmcdermott79
@mickmcdermott79
Proper book, not home made, 90 pages and a real laugh, think the author should be a stand up comedian now his betting exploits have been knocked for six by the BIG FOUR
Maybe he should send the chairman of all the major bookies a copy just like they like to do with their diary`s at Chritmas !
I personally find them ALL a disgrace.. Ive found the following:-
Bet365 - bet 3 days - reduced liability now to £100/event
Betfred - still have account although liability is £200
VC Bet - 2 day account closed
Stan James - 1 day(3bets) account closed
Betfair (sportsbook) - 2 weeks, liability restricted (cant quite work out what to apprx £200)
WM Hills & Corals - account still active although I do spread bets between 2 (trying to stay under radar)
Boyle - 2 days - Closed
Paddy - Liability reduced to £100
Ladbrokes - 2 days - "can no longer offer you BOG or any bonuses" liability now approx £200
Bet365 - bet 3 days - reduced liability now to £100/event
Betfred - still have account although liability is £200
VC Bet - 2 day account closed
Stan James - 1 day(3bets) account closed
Betfair (sportsbook) - 2 weeks, liability restricted (cant quite work out what to apprx £200)
WM Hills & Corals - account still active although I do spread bets between 2 (trying to stay under radar)
Boyle - 2 days - Closed
Paddy - Liability reduced to £100
Ladbrokes - 2 days - "can no longer offer you BOG or any bonuses" liability now approx £200
if only there was a place where you could back winners to your hearts content with no danger of being restricted
ST , not restricted on here , but you could be taxed anywhere from 20-60%
Swift - Have you tried getting a couple of hundred on here on a morning on something that is not below 6/4? Stick it up and you wont get matched, or will do for peanuts before £2 jumps in front of your bet.
I realise the books are running a business but some decisions are just pathetic. If they had proper compilers rather than the accountants they have (the biggest arbers going no doubt) then they could lay a decent bet. All the apologists on here tell you that you shouldn't bet with a book if they are top price or if they are above the Betfair price. Why not? Surely any punter would want the best return for his/her money.
I stupidly thought the whole point of going top price would be to attract money as you still think you are laying below the true price, and when you have been filled you then cut the price, but now anyone who takes top price are automatically marked or called an arber - which is just daft.
I realise the books are running a business but some decisions are just pathetic. If they had proper compilers rather than the accountants they have (the biggest arbers going no doubt) then they could lay a decent bet. All the apologists on here tell you that you shouldn't bet with a book if they are top price or if they are above the Betfair price. Why not? Surely any punter would want the best return for his/her money.
I stupidly thought the whole point of going top price would be to attract money as you still think you are laying below the true price, and when you have been filled you then cut the price, but now anyone who takes top price are automatically marked or called an arber - which is just daft.
totaaly agree jammer, surely to god if a firm is top price it is because they want to get it in the book???
just back at BF SP on here
I can fill in your comments for ya
You: "you're joking! back at BF SP and miss the best price"
Me: "You don't know that, are you saying that you can consistently predict the BF SP for each horse?"
You: "No, but I want the BOG price"
Me: "Well, in that case, you cannot blame the bookie for restricting you if you are consistently winning money off him"
You (stamping foot): "I want to back with the bookie at BOG unrestricted!"
But if you can consistently predict which horses are going to be lower at BF SP than in the morningsat
I can fill in your comments for ya
You: "you're joking! back at BF SP and miss the best price"
Me: "You don't know that, are you saying that you can consistently predict the BF SP for each horse?"
You: "No, but I want the BOG price"
Me: "Well, in that case, you cannot blame the bookie for restricting you if you are consistently winning money off him"
You (stamping foot): "I want to back with the bookie at BOG unrestricted!"
But if you can consistently predict which horses are going to be lower at BF SP than in the morningsat
if the bookies cant trade your bets for risk free profit on a consistent basis then they don't want your business.
end of thread.
end of thread.
Well, in that case, you cannot blame the bookie for restricting you if you are consistently winning money off him
You're missing the point, bookmakers are restricting customers before they even have a chance of winning.
My latest 365 account lasted 5 bets. I was £248 down and got restricted. I never follow any tipster, and I didn't beat the bf price. The only "sin" was to beat sp (which I couldn't possibly have forecasted).
As previously said, why offer the price if you don't want it taken ?
You're missing the point, bookmakers are restricting customers before they even have a chance of winning.
My latest 365 account lasted 5 bets. I was £248 down and got restricted. I never follow any tipster, and I didn't beat the bf price. The only "sin" was to beat sp (which I couldn't possibly have forecasted).
As previously said, why offer the price if you don't want it taken ?
Q. Would you lay 2/1 about a 6/4 shot ???
A. NO
If you don't want to lay 2/1 then don't stick it up there !!!
and then don't punish your account who take it !!
Simple !!
A. NO
If you don't want to lay 2/1 then don't stick it up there !!!
and then don't punish your account who take it !!
Simple !!
WFT , at a guess i would say bookmakers are now restricting accounts if you dont bet on various sports , roulette , arcades , reality tv etc .
if you just bet on 1 type of sport , the chances are higher that you may win , or not lose as much as they would like you too.
if you just bet on 1 type of sport , the chances are higher that you may win , or not lose as much as they would like you too.
you're arguing against what is actually happening
what's the point?
you don't have any control over the situation, you can't take the bookie to court for restricting you
just find another way and stop your constant whinging
what's the point?
you don't have any control over the situation, you can't take the bookie to court for restricting you
just find another way and stop your constant whinging
any bet to win at least ten grand [ including each way ] ..no bet ever refsed or reduced .. no punter ever barred or refused , whatever the bet.
these threads always amuse me
these threads always amuse me
^ that seems to be the case rcing.
i thought it was particularly kind of hills to still let me know i was welcome to use the casino & poker sites at the same time as telling me i could no longer have any bets on the sportsbook.
i thought it was particularly kind of hills to still let me know i was welcome to use the casino & poker sites at the same time as telling me i could no longer have any bets on the sportsbook.
no , rcing the racecourse badge restricts us to taking bets from the pitch only [ legally ]
just back at BF SP on here
I can fill in your comments for ya
You: "you're joking! back at BF SP and miss the best price"
Me: "You don't know that, are you saying that you can consistently predict the BF SP for each horse?"
You: "No, but I want the BOG price"
Me: "Well, in that case, you cannot blame the bookie for restricting you if you are consistently winning money off him"
You (stamping foot): "I want to back with the bookie at BOG unrestricted!"
But if you can consistently predict which horses are going to be lower at BF SP than in the morningsat
Swift - Why would I back at BF SP if I don't know what price it is going to be, surely the whole game is about price? I never used to have BOG in the shops before the internet etc and didn't worry, but back then the books were books imo. My local lads wouldn't worry about taking 500 on a horse at the advertised price back in the 90s, now they have to ring up for £50.
Although it's nothing to do with them being arcades and online casinos etc....risk free....
I can fill in your comments for ya
You: "you're joking! back at BF SP and miss the best price"
Me: "You don't know that, are you saying that you can consistently predict the BF SP for each horse?"
You: "No, but I want the BOG price"
Me: "Well, in that case, you cannot blame the bookie for restricting you if you are consistently winning money off him"
You (stamping foot): "I want to back with the bookie at BOG unrestricted!"
But if you can consistently predict which horses are going to be lower at BF SP than in the morningsat
Swift - Why would I back at BF SP if I don't know what price it is going to be, surely the whole game is about price? I never used to have BOG in the shops before the internet etc and didn't worry, but back then the books were books imo. My local lads wouldn't worry about taking 500 on a horse at the advertised price back in the 90s, now they have to ring up for £50.
Although it's nothing to do with them being arcades and online casinos etc....risk free....
obviously tuttle is one of these 2 quid merchants who bookmakers
welcome with open arms.
welcome with open arms.
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