Would say it's big odds on the Arabs won't renew the C4 Racing programme

I take exception the word "live",HD!

Balding will be the new Graham Norton but who will employ the rest of the shower ?

racingstar...


sorry bro; forgot you were a course chappie !

Balding could be one of the reasons for no new contract after speaking to Sheik Mo like she did after the Guineas

The days of Analogue Tv Racing coverage are sadly missed,imo.

The point about balding and mo may well be correct but tbf it is the best thing she's done.

the games up when bbc decided to drop racing

concur

if bbc drop the open golf,I'm stopping my licence fee

No such option exists,xmoneyx

Nov 11, 2013 -- 7:00PM, salmon spray wrote:

The point about balding and mo may well be correct but tbf it is the best thing she's done.

pish - she's only where she is due to her father

I was hardly making the case that she was a good presenter overall.

racingstar     11 Nov 13 19:53 
No such option exists,xmoneyx


yeah,will start a campaign,why pay ?

there is no law that says you need a tv license hth

I beg to differ,Tamboy.

it's not a law it's an act,big difference.

Dear FOI Enquiries,
The BBC has sent me a pdf file explaining that the communications
act 2003 makes it a legal requirement to pay television license
fees, however, my question was, which LAW states i have to pay tv
license fees. An act is not a law, an act can only be actioned upon
if the citizen agrees to be subjected to its original intention (i
do not) therefore to the best of my knowledge as the BBC have
failed to tell me otherwise, there is NO UK LAW which requires me
to pay tv license fees. AN ACT IS NOT A LAW, THUS THERE IS NO
MURDER ACT, THERE IS NO RAPE ACT, ONLY MURDER LAWS AND RAPE LAWS.
From this day fourth i will proceed to cancel my direct debit to TV
License and until i see evidence that a LAW exists telling me
otherwise, then i shall not pay another penny, i may even request a
refund of what i have paid so far.

Logikal - "Balding could be one of the reasons for no new contract after speaking to Sheik Mo like she did after the Guineas"   

The below seems to be a verbatim report of the exchange (even though its from the Guardian.  What hard-hitting incisive question did you take exception to?


Guardian quote...
Balding had had to be persistent to get an interview of any kind, as the Sheikh twice turned down her off-camera approaches. But, caught up in the euphoria of the winner's enclosure after his chestnut had won by an impressive five lengths, he consented.

"I'm very, very happy to come and see a good horse winning the Guineas," said the Sheikh, who serves as ruler of Dubai and prime minister of the UAE. Asked if he had been tempted to stay away, he replied: "I always face certain ... challenges. To me, it's normal."

Balding then asked if the Sheikh was "happy" with the actions of the British Horseracing Authority, who recently banned one of his trainers, Mahmood al-Zarooni, for eight years for covert use of steroids. "That's up to them," said the Sheikh, already turning away, melting into his supportive entourage."
Unquote

From this day fourth

basically they can only take you to court and fine you if you agree to it.ie signing one of there documents when they come to your door.

Tambhoy - "from this day fourth".  Not sure you are cut out for job in the barrack room

lawyer or conscientious objector?....

Look forward to an appearance in Court,Tammy!"
Looking on the bright side,your grasp of the Law will have them in stitches.

both

Amazing that people are prepared to pay £20 per month for RUK when access to the full range of BBC programmes cost just over £12 a month.
Anybody got RUK + the full Sky Sports package + BT TV to pick up the games they have. How much does that lot cost please ?

Tuche

had them at the door 4 times this year and just refused to answer their questions,haven't even given them my name and there's nothing they can legally do.

4 times,u must live next door to bbc

I had them round as well...  they said where is your licence...  I said in the attic with the aerial..  yes we know they said... them phuckin' detector vans are good !

tambhoy5,



good evening. Did they ask if you'd got a t.v. ?

SS,I have RUK for two separate boxes,same for Sky (Full Package) and BT Hd Sports.
The costs are,£30.80 RUK.Sky £74.50 and £15 for BT.
Monthly total= £120.30

ROFFL,HD.

anyway would love to stay and chat but i'm trying to concentrate on ripper street

yes they asked me but i told them i don't answer questions that someone asks me on my doorstep.told them to send a letter to the named  person who occupies the house.

I fear that you will be watching from Brixton Prison in the near future,Tammy.

tambhoy... are you really trying to suggest that an act of parliament is not law? lol...

in England and Wales, there are two basic ways that laws are created: common law and statute. your reference to that act, if it's received the royal assent is as good law (better in fact) than the common law relating to murder etc.

so, yes it is a legal requirement for you to have a tv licence and I agree with those above who think you're a loon.

tammy lives in a house with no name...

@ dibble

the only loons are the ones that pay up

This Forum has never failed to unearth an endless supply of "certifiables".
In Tammy we have struck gold.
On the bonus side,it has made me chuckle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWiKEdGcIGk

V Licensing and the law

Part 4 of the Communications Act 2003 makes it an offence to install or use a television receiver to watch or record any television programmes as they're being shown on television without a valid TV Licence. The Act empowers the BBC to make and amend the terms and conditions of a licence. It allows the government to make regulations to exempt or reduce the licence fee for certain persons in certain circumstances. It also makes it an offence for anyone to have any television receiver in their possession or under their control who intends to install or use it in contravention of the main offence (above), or knows, or has reasonable grounds for believing, that another person intends to install or use a television receiver in contravention of the main offence.
The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 define what is a 'television set' and who is a 'television dealer'. The regulations also set out the various types of TV Licence, the criteria for obtaining them, the fees payable for them (including the frequency and amount of instalments) and the different concessions available, including concessions for people who are blind or severely sight impaired, people who are over 74 years of age, people who live in residential care and people who run hotels, guesthouses or campsites.
The Wireless Telegraphy Act of 1967 (as amended) has been repealed meaning that from 25 June 2013 onwards, TV dealers are no longer required to notify TV Licensing when they sell or rent out TV equipment.

Perhaps Tammys an octogenarian !

Tasmmy,
Feast your eyes on this; You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder.

It costs £145.50 for colour and £49.00 for a black and white TV Licence

'people who live in residential care'   NAP  !

HD,
We are not talking about his IQ!

racingstar, think he's joshing but all the same .

Actually I live in flats for over 55s only. We pay £7.50 for a licence. I feel a bit guilty tbh but there's no way I'd pay £120 per month for TV.

Btw, 8os a bit high imo

right at the end of this clip is a typical example,she even admits how can i see you in court if i don't have your details.that's what i'm on about you don't have to tell them anything.

* 80

SS,
It is all about individual finances.
I would not pay £500,000 for a Yearling but to Shiek Mo it is a TV Licence equivalent.

you could even if you so wished invite them into your house and the telly could have the aerial in the back of the telly but if it's not switched on they can't prove you are watching live telly.people just get scared when they come to the door and sign the form, therefor admitting everything.

Tammy,
TV Detector vans do just what it says on the tin.
If you are watching a TV from an unlicenced property they can detect it.
Amazingly,that is how they get convictions,you Rajpot.

sorry for hijacking your thread halcyon days.

i've said my piece now and there's plenty of clips on youtube.

The Government's Care in the Community Act has much to answer for,imo.

tv detector vans

@least tambhoy will be able to meet BBC icons when he's I a cell

this is what you do when they come to your door.of course you can also rip the p1ss out of them if you know that your not breaking any laws.2mins 34 secs in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekvRb_VmeAY

So,in conclusion,the Forum knows nothing about Law and Tammy is Rumpole of the Bailey!.
There is a very good reason that nutters are locked away.
Get ready for the Liquid Cosh,Tammy!

i know my rights and i don't have to divulge any information to a glorified bbc salesperson.

Remember to state that as they say,"take the Prisoner down",Tammy!

shows how much you know.you can only get jailed if you don't pay the fine.

send them an implied right of access letter and they can't come on your property and knock your door.
then you can take them to a civil court

Dear God!

We seemed to have strayed off topic and on to Citizen Tambhoys hidden agenda !

sorry but just like my stats thread i'm just trying to put some money in peoples pockets.

i will say no more on the subject

No probs mate... enjoyed the banter !

What idiot cited TV Detector Vans? Oh, sorry racing

I was waiting for an idiot to step forward.
Come on down Arfwit.

anybody who has ignored their viewers as much as CH 4 racing appears to have done

deserves to fail imo

I wrote to them giving an impartial review of performance and suggested they do some market research to see whether what I said held water

They wrote back saying they had done the work and were very happy with how things are going

Another set of the Emperor's New Clothes

I would be very happy to do without any terrestrial channels if I could avoid the license fee. I only watch C4 racing if I am away from home. I pay 3 license fees as I have 2 holiday cottages next to my house so that is £420 a year for the privilege of funding BBC, the most self satisfied and pointless organisation on the planet.

it's not a law it's an act,big difference.



I'm afraid you seem to be confused between whether or not something is law, and whether or not a law is enforced.

They wrote back saying they had done the work and were very happy with how things are going

judo - C4 Racing are a perfect example of so many businesses in this country these days who think they are above finding out what their customers actually want. They'd rater pay big bucks to a marketing firm to produce a report telling them they're doing great. They then seem surprised when it all goes t*ts-up.

I know 2 households who don't pay for a tv licence every year but still watch all the tv channels in the uk including BBC. And they do this legally and in the full knowledge of the tv licensing people.

They just have to sign something every three years to say they don't watch any terrestrial tv as it is shown.

There seems to a lot of "you had it coming" and "who cares?" sentiment here. But without terrestrial coverage where is the next generation of punters coming from? No-one will be tuning into ATR except us grey-beards. Once we're gone that's it - last one to leave put the lights out!

GREY-BEARDS

Love it.

channel4

I agree with grisly adams,no terrestrial will be a sad day

Maybe ATV will come to the rescue .
Where is Binned Banks? He knows all about the law. Tambhoy5 reminds me of Mr Haddock.

I haven't got a beard.

I tried to light a spark in my son's head by showing him the sheer joy of working out a race and watching your opinion unfold in front of you. He's a sensible level headed kid who I just know would get it if the magic penny were to drop. But he watched Channel 4 and decided (quite perceptively) that it was just sycophantic hype. No response. He'd rather watch football.
I'd like to think that if he had seen Dawn Run come up the hill with PO'S commentating, or Mtoto and Reference Point going  head to head at Sandown, (just  examples) the fire might have taken hold. I'm telling you guys - we're on a fast train to oblivion, and CH4 need to get that!

I can remember the days of John Rickman and his trilby hat, and almost unthinkable that there would be no terrestrial coverage of horse racing on TV.  A big shame when BBC stopped it's coverage, and glad we have C4, and hope we keep it.....