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Turnell
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Thats brillant M8
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Thought it might have been a casino gangster when I saw the name...!
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see it come from last to 1st...............& never forgot it
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Won the County hurdle in the 60s (father and son)
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correct
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1965
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he usted to ride short.........
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Stablemate of mine. Not in the same class of course.
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Andy must have been a pup in 65'
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I don't think he rode him.
Andy made his name on an outside ride Sky Pink a year or two later. |
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Sorry he did. Claimed 5lbs. Can't have been more than 16.
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Thinkj he was 14 when he rode his first winner. Pretty sure he was aboard Bill..
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Still wrong
 3lbs |
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Haine rode him in his previous race and I've always associated him with the horse.
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trying to google J Haine......cant spoll so thanx
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Did he feature in a 1-2 one time with stablemate Hanassi? One of them was 8/1 I think.
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spell......aint that bad
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Maybe the other was 100/8, or I might be thinking of a diffeent horse altogether. they came up the stand rail, running left to right on the TV screen, wherever it was. Newbury perhaps.
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Not that season ged.
I think I have the following season's but as it took me 10 mins to find that one you'll have to wait for onlooker. |
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Does anyone remember Tudor Dance and Frozen Alive having a terrific battle one Saturday afternoon (Sandown or Ascot) with Johnny Haine (or maybe Jeff King) and Stan Mellor riding - then repeating it a couple of Saturdays later with a 3rd horse in the mix as well? One of the best 2-horse battles I've seen - great riders too. Fantastic television.
I only ask that because I've got Tudor Dance in the same bit of my head as Mayfair Bill and Hanassi. |
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John Rickman .........
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Only if it was Sandown. The BBC had Ascot.
And it was Tony Cook who was their race commentator then. |
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I THOUGHT LIKE ABOVE IT WAS A FAMOUS PERSON ,ONLY I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY SUCCESFUL GAMBLER
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DEAD LEG DO WAH
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ged - Cannot find that - Tried 1964 to 1969.
Have found - Mayfair Bill beating Antiar, by 3/4 length in the Stoke Poges Handicap Hurdle at Windsor - Antiar was Cazalet's - 20/1 (opened 100/8) Have fund Hanassi finishing 3rd to Turnell's Fine Art - and also 3rd to Turnell's Sky Pink (at Kempton) |
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onlooker - thanks. Was Hanassi Turnell's? I was fairly sure in my mind it was Hanassi who was either 1st or 2nd, with another Turnell horse in the 1-2 - and being either Mayfair Bill or Tudor Dance, and that it was 'left-to-right' finish on the TV.
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I could have course have 'conflated' 2 races - wouldn't be the first time.
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Yes - Hanassi was Turnell's
Mayfair Bill was 9 yrs old in 1968 - Not got him running in 68/69 Hanassi was 8 yrs old - ditto - Both Tudor Dance and Frozen Alive were foaled in 1966 - so had, obviously not dun over Jumps by 68/69 |
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Sky Pink was ridden by Andy a lot but wasn't he trained by John Sutcliffe ?
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Don't worry Ged, you're not losing it.
Kempton Park Saturday 28th Feb 1970 KP Hurdle 2m 1 Frozen Alive 11-5 S Mellor 7-2 fav 2 Tudor Dance 10-10 J King 5-1 3 Highland Abbe 11-3 D Holley 100-6 Distances Nk, Nk And yes, it was a right handed track. |
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Thanks Paulbu - that must have been the 2nd of the 2 races between Frozen Alive and Tudor Dance (both at right-handed tracks, in fairly close proximity timewise)
...but the Hanassi race I was trying to recall was a different affair, and my memory is obviously shakier there. |
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Did they meet at the Kempton Christmas meeting also? Does anyone remember Canasta Lad and Barnard meeting in novice chases, did they both fall at the last at Wincanton once?
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You're correct again, Ged
Kempton Park Saturday 27th Dec 1969 Egham Hurdle 2m (3-y-o) 1 Frozen Alive 10-10 S Mellor 7-4 fav 2 Tudor Dance 10-10 J King 11-4 3 Regal Path 11-3 D Barrott 100-30 Distances sh hd, 15 |
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Thanks again. Mentalbird correct on that one.
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Sorry Mentalbird, I hadn't seen your posting re the Kempton Christmas meeting.
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I think the December one was probably the best. The 2 were head and head from the 2nd last, and in those days the didn't camera didn't try to get up their nostrils, so you had a really good view of them pulling clear and battling each other, and both jockeys were all action.
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Mentalbird, Barnard and Canasta Lad met a couple of times, most noticeably when first and second respectively in the 1971 Gloucestershire Hurdle. They were novice chasers in different seasons, Barnard in 72-73 and Canasta Lad in 73-74 and they never met in a novice chase. Barnard once fell at the last at Cheltenham when well clear.
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17.01.1974, Wincanton, Barnard 5/4 fell 2 out, Vikrom ( not Canasta Lad) 5/6 fell last but remounted to win. Had to look it up.
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