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OJ-CANNON
23 Sep 13 13:52
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Hello All,

I'm 21 years old and I like the idea of becoming a bookmaker. Please only genuine replies, I am not fishing.

How much would it cost to go on course? Equipment, Pitch etc
Also, what is pay per head? Is it worth it?

Thanks for all you help

Owen
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Report OVERSEAS September 23, 2013 1:53 PM BST
not worth it in any sense these days..set up at home...and play bookmaker..
Report harry2.1 September 23, 2013 1:55 PM BST
Did Betfair let you join aged 16 ?

Just google it.
Report OJ-CANNON September 23, 2013 1:56 PM BST
Quite funny you ask that. Yes is the answer. I am also trying to claim back 8k losses from 888 sport between the ages of 16-18. What's my chances
Report OJ-CANNON September 23, 2013 1:56 PM BST
Quite funny you ask that. Yes is the answer. I am also trying to claim back 8k losses from 888 sport between the ages of 16-18. What's my chances
Report freddiewilliams September 23, 2013 1:56 PM BST
Cry
Report sparrow September 23, 2013 1:58 PM BST
I am also trying to claim back 8k losses from 888 sport between the ages of 16-18. What's my chances



Chances are about as good as becoming a successful bookmaker.
Report Lightbulbs Fan Club September 23, 2013 2:00 PM BST
Two things are in your favour...an ability to lose large sums of money and a sense of humour...good luck for the future!
Report harry2.1 September 23, 2013 2:01 PM BST
Why not price up you're own question , would be a start. experience, a sound interest in form and about £250k will be needed.

Odds  of getting your money back are zero,.
Report chelsea girl September 23, 2013 2:11 PM BST
OVERSEAS     23 Sep 13 13:53 
not worth it in any sense these days..set up at home...and play bookmaker..

100% book on here, 5% commission, pc charge if you win long term.Mischief
Report adge September 23, 2013 2:16 PM BST
owen ,
start up costs would be about 5k for licences , stand and computer system.
pitches cost from £50 [ one's you don't want ] to over 100k.
going into winter is NOT the time to start but plenty of time to prepare for next year
firstly , contact www.agt-ltd.co.uk for information
secondly , visit your nearest racecourse and talk to bookmakers , most will be helpful
Report OJ-CANNON September 23, 2013 2:18 PM BST
Adge - thank you
Report Lightbulbs Fan Club September 23, 2013 2:18 PM BST
thirdly..consult a good psychiatrist...fourth...remember to pop on the forum after a "record breaking" turnover day at Redcar on a Tuesday (before popping the pitch for sale on the AGT site)......
Report ribero1 September 23, 2013 2:20 PM BST
Something tells me we've been here before with OJ.
Report foxy September 23, 2013 2:34 PM BST
I see sergeant pink won yesterday ribero


re poster the tale about 888 will stand him in good stead in the present climate.
Report OVERSEAS September 23, 2013 2:40 PM BST
fair call chelsea....but compare that to bad weather..marketing fee...all related costs incl salary, diesel etc etc and next to no turnover and more often that not you are going exchange prices anyway..better to spend your time on here and enjoy a cup of tea in the warm.....
Report chelsea girl September 23, 2013 2:43 PM BST
^Or a large Vodka and Tonic^Happy
Report foxy September 23, 2013 2:45 PM BST
why bother going out for a nice meal when you can stay in each night and eat cheaper from the super markets,why bother booking a holiday with all that hassle off flying you might aswell go and sit in your back garden for a fortnight that will save you money aswell.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 23, 2013 2:50 PM BST
pm skinto he will guide you as to all the pitfalls.
Report OVERSEAS September 23, 2013 2:51 PM BST
nice meal..lovely holiday a little different to saving money by not becoming a rails bookmaker foxy...
Report adge September 23, 2013 2:57 PM BST
or the alternative view , overseas..work for nine months on course and go abroad for three months on holiday out of the profits
Report unbiased September 23, 2013 2:59 PM BST
Just dug out the article by a large(not necessarily in size!) independent bookmaker published in the RP in 2002,saying why he is selling up,and carrying on from the comfort of his home.
  Meanwhile 11 years on,and with even greater expenses, there are people that still want to give it a go !!!
Report swift-tuttle September 23, 2013 3:01 PM BST
this thread is coming dangerously close to bookmakers admitting that they make money out of their overrounds
i.e admitting that 'bigger than the machine' is a fib
Report intheknow September 23, 2013 3:18 PM BST
1. find the leading hexham bookmaker
2. dial the number
3. ask whats for sale
4. pay the asking price
Report adge September 23, 2013 3:44 PM BST
anything wrong with bigger than the machine AND an overround. only short ones are bigger..outsiders best on here [ win only of course ]
Report foxy September 23, 2013 3:49 PM BST
overseas it may be different but sitting in the house everyday on betfair cant do you any good you just end up talking nonsenseCrazy
Report swift-tuttle September 23, 2013 3:57 PM BST
so were it not for the punters who are willing to back outsiders on your pitch adge as opposed to getting a much better price on here (win only)

you would lose? on the win book
Report ribero1 September 23, 2013 4:11 PM BST
Hi Jimnast,had to back it back to win a few bob on it,think I did about one and a half on the places,the public knew although drifted like a barge on here,never laid it above 8's.
Report the artful dodger September 23, 2013 4:18 PM BST
So now the very good on course summer has finished(for the decent picks).so now we have all the doom merchants on here saying its unworkable all winter.id rather be on the racecourse six months of the year than being jelous sat at home.the secret oj is the decent summer picks not the winter dross.Grin
Report OVERSEAS September 23, 2013 4:35 PM BST
fair point foxy but treat it like any job, do you hours then knock off...
Report foxy September 23, 2013 4:42 PM BST
one plus about the winter dodger is you don't have to compete with as many of those who do it for a bit off fun/2nd income.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 23, 2013 4:43 PM BST
MONEY FOR OLD ROPE.
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 5:03 PM BST
OJ,WOULDNT PUT YOU OFF HAVING A GO BEING AN ONCOURSE BOOKMAKER AS DESPITE HAVING TO PAY RECORD EXPENSES WITH DECLINING TURNOVER(THE RACECOURSES COULDNT BE DOING A BETTER JOB OF DRIVING PEOPLE AWAY)IN ACTUAL FACT THERE ARE VIRTUALLY NO BOOKMAKERS LEFT IN THE BETTING RINGS,TAKE OUT THE COMMISSION AGENTS,FLIMPERS,& BURGLARS AND THE COMPETITION FOR ANY BOOKMAKER WANTING TO HAVE A GO IS SPARSE,I DONT AGREE WITH ADGES COMMENT REGARDING THE PRICE OF PITCHES, AS IN TRUTH THERE PROBABLY ISNT A PITCH WORTH 100K IN THE COUNTRY,THE VAST MAJORITY ARE NOW WORTHLESS,SO DONT BE PUT OFF GETTING CHEAP PITCHES,IF U WANT TO KNOW HOW WELL THE BOOKS THAT HAVE PAID 100K PLUS FOR PITCHES ARE DOING JUST LOOK AT THE KIPPERS ON EM,IVE SEEN TERMINALLY ILL PEOPLE CRACK MORE OF A SMILE,HOPE THIS HELPSHappy
Report the artful dodger September 23, 2013 5:12 PM BST
That is true foxy.....mind you here's still certain tracks even in winter that are swimming with books.Cry
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 23, 2013 5:19 PM BST
Flash bookie makes it pay
Report intheknow September 23, 2013 5:21 PM BST
Lord Facts, you don't half spout some tripe at times Crazy
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 5:28 PM BST
INTHEKNOW,WELL HERES SOME MORE TRIPE FOR U MY FRIEND,WOLS SAT NIGHT,A PUNTER ASKS WILLIAM HILL FOR £200 EWAY @10/1(PRICE ON THE BOARD),SORRY UVE GOT NOTHING,THE PUNTER THEN CALMLY REPLIES" THATS UNBELIEVABLE YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED THIS IS EMBARRASSING"WALKS DOWN TO ME AND PUTS THE BET ONHappy
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 5:29 PM BST
CHECK IT OUT,U COULDNT WRITE IT!
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 5:30 PM BST
PROBABLY ANOTHER ONCOURSE PUNTER NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAINCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCry
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 5:32 PM BST
THE ONLY TRIPE BEING SPOUTED IS WHEN YOUR FIRM COME ON TV TELLING ONE AND ALL THEVE TAKEN A 100K BET FOR A HORSELaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report adge September 23, 2013 5:32 PM BST
sorry swift , been out to the bank to pay last weeks profits in.
yes ,my whole business is built around laying outsiders each way e.g two bets laid on Saturday were 100 e.w at 100/1 and 125/1. [ both at sp of 66/1 ].
I couldn't survive without
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 5:32 PM BST
NOW LOOK WHAT UVE DONE,IVE GONE AND WET MYSELF AGAINPlain
Report johnnywilkinson September 23, 2013 5:39 PM BST
OWEN HANG YA SELF NOW SAVE YA DOING IT IN TEN YEARS TIME....KEEP AWAY FROM THAT ADGE HE,LL TELL YA YOULL NEVER HAVE A LOSING DAY AND DONCASTER ROVERS WILL WIN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE IN 2086
Report johnnywilkinson September 23, 2013 5:41 PM BST
OH AND FACTMACHINE COULD YOU PLEASE STOP TAPPIN THE MISSUS UP
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 5:46 PM BST
ALWAYS A PLEASUREWinkAND HOW DID SHE FIND OUT ABOUT THE CRUNCHIESShocked
Report TheNorfolkMafia September 23, 2013 5:47 PM BST
OJ-CANNON,

Don't do it!
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 5:49 PM BST
HOPE I HAVNT UPSET MY FAVOURITE REP,LORD GARFORTH,BUT THETRUTHURTSSad
Report johnnywilkinson September 23, 2013 5:50 PM BST
I TOLD HER ,AFTER LIVERPOOL NEXT TIME UTTOXS IS ON SHES TAKING THE APPLE CORE WRAPPED AROUND A CRUNCHIE WRAPPER CAUSE ILL BET-10 ON -SHES ATE THE PHHWUKKER
Report intheknow September 23, 2013 5:51 PM BST
Lord Facts (or maybe we should call you Lord Nofacts), that is not the correct story from Wolves on Sat eve. Our rep will be more than pleased to correct you in the near future
Report johnnywilkinson September 23, 2013 5:52 PM BST
YEAH STOPP STIRING IT FACTSLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 5:55 PM BST
LORD GARFORTH,I WAS LESS THAN 10 FOOT AWAY,THE SAME REP DID THE SAME TO ME A COUPLE OF MEETINGS BEFORE,WENT IN TO BACK A HORSE TO WIN £500 PRICE ON THE BOARD ,LAID ME NOTHING,NOTHING AGAINST HIM PERSONALLY AS HE IS FOLLOWING ORDERS,BUT ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH IS ITPlain
Report johnnywilkinson September 23, 2013 5:57 PM BST
HOME OF BETTING .........................WHAT CRANK TOUGHT OF THAT
Report intheknow September 23, 2013 6:00 PM BST
you haven't got the full facts (pardon the pun) so even if you were less than 10ft away, you didn't hear the full conversation. I've heard it in full and am perfectly happy with how we dealt with the situation
Report ribero1 September 23, 2013 6:01 PM BST
Get yourself a mug in the book OJ,easy peasy.
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 6:03 PM BST
OLD CHAP WALKS INTO WILLIAM HILL LAST WEEK TO PUT £220 10/11 ON A RUGBY SUPER LEAGUE PLAY OFF GAME,PRICE FREELY AVAILABLE,LIVE ON SKY,THE GIRL AT THE COUNTER LOOKS AT THE BET AND SAYS"ILL HAVE TO RING IT UP"OLD CHAP "DONT BOTHER"HE WILL NEVER FREQUENT THE SHOP AGAIN.NOT GOOD ENOUGH IS IT,PS TEAM GOT BEATLaugh
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 6:04 PM BST
OJ,BETTER STILL RENT SOME OF THOSE 100K PITCHESLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report chavman September 23, 2013 6:05 PM BST
youll have to let your appearance go to fcuk aswell oj.part of the image i think
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 6:09 PM BST
OJ,SAVILLE ROW SUIT,DONNED WITH A CRAVAT OR BOW TIE,PATENT LEATHER SHOES,BRAND NEW EQUIPMENT,BUT WHEN SOMEONE ASKS U FOR A BET JUST REPLY IM SORRY SIR ITS GONELaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report johnnywilkinson September 23, 2013 6:11 PM BST
THE BULBS ARE PLAYING UP
Report johnnywilkinson September 23, 2013 6:12 PM BST
GET LIGHTS LIKE MARTYN OF LEICESTER HES GOT THE BLUE LIGHT SUPERSONIC SPEED MACHINE.....
Report johnnywilkinson September 23, 2013 6:13 PM BST
GET YA SELF A IMAGE A GOOOD SAYING ......................YOU GET A GOOD LAY WHEN U BET WITH OJ
Report johnnywilkinson September 23, 2013 6:15 PM BST
WHOS GOING THE BEST PRICE U SAY ...IT CAN ONLY BE OJ
Report foxy September 23, 2013 6:24 PM BST
oj

there is a system now where you set your computer to the betfair show and as you take the bet it is sent into cyber space the bookie hopes to take each way bets because they keep some of the place part,this system is very successful at annoying the bookmakers around you,it is often used by books with better picks.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 23, 2013 6:37 PM BST
JONNY . . . . . FANCY SETTING UP THE HOD AGAIN??

IL BE YOUR H/CAPP MAN TOGETHER WE WILL STORM THE SIT ER DELLCool

DAN HAUGE WILL BE OUSTED AND WE WILL BECOME THE KINGS OF THE ROWLEY MILE.Cool
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 23, 2013 6:38 PM BST
"BET WITH GHOSTY GET IN THE SPIRIT"Cool
Report chavman September 23, 2013 6:53 PM BST
morecombe and wise,hale and pace,the 2 ronnies,the chuckle brothers and steptoe and son spring to mind
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 23, 2013 6:55 PM BST
AKA SHREWD AND SHREWDER Cool
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 6:59 PM BST
WHY NOT JAMES BOND,IF ANYONE ASKS JUST SAY YOUR A DOUBLE AGENT,BDAQ,BETFAIRShocked
Report chavman September 23, 2013 7:01 PM BST
tell people you bat for both sides
Report Racecourse Regular September 23, 2013 7:02 PM BST
Fire it straight back with Cannon -
Report adge September 23, 2013 7:03 PM BST
tommy or water ?
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 7:03 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughSPOT ON RR
Report factmachine September 23, 2013 7:05 PM BST
RR THAT WAS ALSO ON DISPLAY ON SAT NIGHT AT WOLVS Cry
Report foxy September 23, 2013 7:05 PM BST
Cool
Report saddo September 23, 2013 7:07 PM BST
Lesson 1, OJ. GET YER CAPS ON.
Report democrat September 23, 2013 7:07 PM BST
In about another hour's time adge will have trouser about another 8k and he'll be off to the bank again tomorrow. Bank manager - ' Nice to see you again adge please wait while we roll the red carpet out ' - a legend in his own lifetime !
Report adge September 23, 2013 8:02 PM BST
maybe , but it was entered at a price to sell.
Report ribero1 September 23, 2013 8:09 PM BST
Did it sell adge?
going to watch the Donny rails pitch go through,think it might go for a bit more than the asking price.
Report foxy September 23, 2013 8:12 PM BST
reached its asking price ribero.
Report adge September 23, 2013 8:13 PM BST
yes ribero1..buyer bid the reserve price with 5 seconds remaining
Report adge September 23, 2013 8:16 PM BST
looks an obvious home bid on the Donny rails . no one would bid just 50 under the reserve. lol
Report ribero1 September 23, 2013 8:18 PM BST
Well done adge,did the chester tatts pitch sell? my guess would be no.
Report ribero1 September 23, 2013 8:21 PM BST
I agree adge but think it will go,gets you on on 2 or 3 Saturdays and would have got you on leger Friday this year! although doubt it will again.
And of course it will get on all the off days probably bringing the number up to the maximum!!
Report adge September 23, 2013 8:30 PM BST
another last five seconds bidder
Report ribero1 September 23, 2013 8:31 PM BST
The "home" bid did the trick,got the reserve price,probably bought by someone with a pitch there already.
Report democrat September 23, 2013 8:34 PM BST
There'll be lots of carousing at the dominoes match tonight ! Laugh
Report adge September 23, 2013 8:57 PM BST
the last game of the season was last week , democrat
winter season starts in four weeks

out soon , though !!
Report democrat September 23, 2013 9:00 PM BST
Get me one in adge.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 23, 2013 10:22 PM BST
WHERES JONNYCool
Report johnnywilkinson September 24, 2013 12:00 PM BST
HI JOHNNYS HOME Cool
Report johnnywilkinson September 24, 2013 12:01 PM BST
JUST GOT BACK FROM THE HOSPITAL HAD ME LEFT KNEEE X-RAYED GOT TO STOP CARRYING IT IN MY LEFT POCKET
Report johnnywilkinson September 24, 2013 12:02 PM BST
NO 44 ON THE ROWLEY BUT IVE ALREADY GOT A PARTNER ....HE,S FILED UNDER M
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 24, 2013 12:03 PM BST
me and yew will be unstopableCool
Report johnnywilkinson September 24, 2013 12:04 PM BST
I WANNA KNOW ADGE WHOS IN THE WILL
Report johnnywilkinson September 24, 2013 12:04 PM BST
WHAT ABOUT SKINTO CAN WE SIT HIM IN THE SILVER TRAY
Report factmachine September 24, 2013 12:17 PM BST
PUTTING ADGES WILL TO ONE SIDE,AND BACK TO THE ORIGINAL THREAD OF OWENS.THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT MY OFF THE CUFF REMARK ABOUT PITCH RENTING THE MORE IT MADE SENSE FROM OWENS POINT OF VIEW.THERE ARE PLENTY OF THESE 100K PITCHES U CAN RENT OUT,YOU COULD THEN SEE FOR YOURSELF.EVEN THE BIG FESTIVALS U CAN RENT EM(CANT THINK WHY).
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