It's all short term Fact------ they think we have a crowd in front today lets do what we like........... what's the audience on CH4 at home......... how many think I ll remember that next time I go racing............   they should be doing the exact opposite and trying to build a sustainable business model. that will survive the test of time............ And this will only start at the top..........

The Association is bound by its constitution to hold an AGM but it becomes meaningless if the agenda is devoid of items that are meaningful and crying out for debate. A NBPA director described a fellow director as 'The landlord' and when I asked him why he said because of his policy of widespread renting of his pitches. It made me think what hope is there for a better future !

I agree RR , in fact i'm surprised that there were as many as eight. what I don't understand is why the back line / poor pitch bookmakers don't go 1/4 odds.
maybe the reason is because the public don't care about terms . all they want is 13/1 a 12/1 chance and 17/1 a 16/1 chance or 17/4 a 4/1 chance.

My Book is going to print next week - How to Self Destruct the industry in which you work in a maximum of two years

1.  Do everything you can to get yourself as much publicity as possible in terms or ripping off your customers
2.  Negotiate a  Record Expenses deal in a time of recession and decreasing turnover
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You keep avoiding the questions adge. Is there a reason for that ? Ooops another q. !

Thanks - that's a helpful explanation.

RR 3 ALLOW PITCH RENTING AND ABUSE OF SHED Y(MAKE SURE YOUR MAIN ABUSERS ARE ELECTED TO A BOARD THAT REPRESENTS ALL ONCOURSE BOOKS)

RR 4 CALL FOR AN ANNUAL MEETING OF MEMBERS WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOLD TO SIGN A CONTRACT(OR THEY CANT BET) THAT IS NON NEGOTIABLE SO NO MATTER WHAT THE VAST MAJORITY AGREE NOTHING WILL CHANGE,THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT THE POOR TURNOUT.

APPARENTLY THERE DOING A RE-MAKE OFF THE TITANIC THE CREW CONSISTS OFF ALL MEMEBERS OF THE N.B.P.A

12 months ago I could have forgiven them the secret squirrel excuse (just about)...... now since signing the best deal for the racecourses known to man...... they have let any tom dick or harry be an unlicensed layer at Ascot (Free WIFI to all)....

Baldfred sticks joints up on a racecourse where ever he wants - Must be colossal round the back of the stands at Ascot, he has that on his own virtually with a few exceptions (I'd glady pay 6x fee for that if the negotiators wanted to put it forward as a suggestion )

Today we see that Wetherby cos they feel like it put two extra premium (Festival) days in to in their eyes increase revenue cos the badge multiplier automatically increases on these days................ therefore the secret squirell argument doesn't work anymore cos the racecourses running rings round everybody regardless

I FEEL SORRY FOR THE RABBITS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD

I see the NBPA have agreed to the AGT Fee.

How can it cost more for an AGT identity badge then a UK passport?

we went through this in great detail , davy. the contracts that we have signed state that AGT can charge us a reasonable fee.
so the next question is what is a reasonable fee. as we paid £100 in 2007 that was a reasonable fee then so no argument can be accepted that £120 is not reasonable now.
at least we tried to do something.

I see Steve Clare suggests the best way forward is to provide a united front to the AGT & FRB.
What's peoples view on the FRB paying Gerry Sutcliffe £700 a month as an advisor!
Yes this is the same guy who was in government as sports minister when the gambling act was introduced that brought on all the problems and refused to amend it.

Adge - I think it's great that it was discussed rather than just ignored. The fact that £100 was accepted in 2007 doesnt make it reasonable -  it just means nobody challenged it then. How can an ID card from AGT be more expensive than a 10 year UK passport?

Surely AGT is not sustainable given falling bookmaker revenues, attendances etc . This fee is just papering over the cracks.

Thanks ribero1-caused much grief to me and mine at the time.

U COULDNT WRITE IT,THE NEXT ONE WILL BE FRED DONE HAS BEEN VOTED CHAIRMAN OF THE NBPA/ARB BECAUSE HE RENTS OUT ANY TOP TEN PICK THATS NOT BEING USEDUNBELIEVABLE

CHECK MATE TO THE RACECOURSES/AGT

Why is there no consultation of 'members' to obtain what should be mandatory authorisation before any significant sums are spent on causes for which there is minimal support ?

But mug how is this situation allowed to continue ? That's what I don't understand. Several people have said to me lately 'watch this space' - I must be watching the wrong space !!!