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starfish and coffee
23 Jul 13 17:30
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Report Barton Bank July 23, 2013 5:30 PM BST
Sometimes you just have to sit and shake your head in utter disbelief at what you have just seen. That was one of those occasions.
Report shaungoater July 23, 2013 5:31 PM BST
The most blatant non jigger I've seen in years
Report ashleigh July 23, 2013 5:31 PM BST
as gary said, draw your own conclusions.
Report workrider July 23, 2013 5:31 PM BST
Unreal....
Report kjansch July 23, 2013 5:31 PM BST
you didnt watch the southwell race then?
Report aberdonia July 23, 2013 5:32 PM BST
an eyecatcher.  Laugh
Report jonjon July 23, 2013 5:32 PM BST
This is National hunt for you

Half the field can? and wont....have the field cant and dont
Report easygold July 23, 2013 5:33 PM BST
And they want more young people to come racing...............
Report jmdc July 23, 2013 5:33 PM BST
Johnny Ward will give it an authentic write-up as he did Majestic Benbulben.
Report Captain Christy July 23, 2013 5:34 PM BST
Horrible stuff.
Report by purpose July 23, 2013 5:35 PM BST
The trainer gets a winner as often as royal baby is born.What do they be messing around for? Most likely story is he saw there was an even money shot this morning and chickened out..
Report theleech July 23, 2013 5:35 PM BST
hilarious scenes
Report JEFKA July 23, 2013 5:35 PM BST
Only his second time over the jumps. Took a while to get the hang of it and looks like a sure fire future winner, maybe Galway .
Report shaungoater July 23, 2013 5:36 PM BST
The exceptional part is you could make a case for that winning 15 lengths.
Report easygold July 23, 2013 5:36 PM BST
Galway?? no chance to win a maiden hurdle there?? are you for real
Report starfish and coffee July 23, 2013 5:37 PM BST
Liked the move to the inside over the last when horse was pulling to the leaders
Report Mordin. July 23, 2013 5:41 PM BST
Would have to question same jockey "losing iron" in previous run, must check the video
Report shaungoater July 23, 2013 5:42 PM BST
The way the race played out was a nightmare for connections. 

He must be a tidy apprentice to conjure a losing move on that without standing up in saddle and yanking it back.
Report by purpose July 23, 2013 5:44 PM BST
Will be a maiden this time next year.....Just wait and see.
Report JEFKA July 23, 2013 5:45 PM BST
Easy gold, don't see why this wouldn't have a chance to win a maiden in Galway. This was a decent maiden. The second was a highly rated horse on the flat and not so long ago finished 3 lengths off Camelot. Massini's  is obviously in good nick and you need to be at your peak to win in Galway. I'm not saying he's a good thing to win there but being a strong finisher here off a strong pace I think he might get a good pace at Galway with a stiff uphill finish.
Report kd109 July 23, 2013 5:46 PM BST
Looks 10 times worse from the head on.
Report jmdc July 23, 2013 5:47 PM BST
Looks ten times worse on the head-on.  Darrell the anker has got it in his notebook.
Report easygold July 23, 2013 5:51 PM BST
Em, there is only a couple of maiden hurdle races at the festival, and you need a better horse than this fellow to win around there. And this race is a  very poor contest (the winner made five errors and still won) and NEVER take ratings on the flat and bring them to N.Hunt NEVER.
Report Keefter July 23, 2013 6:02 PM BST
if there is something dodgy going on here its because its being saved for another day, what i don't understand is it was clearly ready today and at a huge price. 90 sp on BF i think? so why not smash it into 20-1 and make a fortune. becaus eyou know this beast will be 5-4 fav NTO. bl00dy irish huh?
Report JEFKA July 23, 2013 6:04 PM BST
You're probably right Easy , maybe Tramore in August would be an easier target with a run down the field in Galway to erase the memory of this one.
Report rcing July 23, 2013 6:04 PM BST
Massinis Trap    *    486.00    10.00    Back         -10.00

it's a shame it didn't win

Plain
Report Mordin. July 23, 2013 6:07 PM BST
unlucky rcing
Report Keefter July 23, 2013 6:08 PM BST
you should have been trading for anice profit there rcing, as should i have been. But it was bent, what can you do?
Report rcing July 23, 2013 6:13 PM BST
keefter , i dont think it traded below 40
plus by the time he came into picture at the end of the race the suspend sign appeared
Report Dan Chipowski July 23, 2013 6:22 PM BST
Truly sickening to watch that. Horse could have won 20l+
Report jimeen July 23, 2013 6:23 PM BST
Massinis Trap wouldn't win a maiden hurdle in Galway in a thousand years,that was the worst race ever run .
Report Dan Chipowski July 23, 2013 6:26 PM BST
Irishracing.com Team ‏@IrishRacing365 6m
Massive 50 days suspension handed down to Thomas Doran rider of Massini's Trap. Full story to follow on website.


50 days LaughShocked
Report Swardean July 23, 2013 6:27 PM BST
Jockey hung out to dry for following orders.
Report Cider July 23, 2013 6:29 PM BST
Bound to hang the kid, while Benbulben gets off scot free
Report Keefter July 23, 2013 6:31 PM BST

Jul 23, 2013 -- 12:27PM, Swardean wrote:


Jockey hung out to dry for following orders.


well he should have either refuse dthe ride after getting the orders in that case or ignored them.

Report aberdonia July 23, 2013 6:31 PM BST
50 Days
Report tips July 23, 2013 6:31 PM BST
horrible scene
Report Apologist July 23, 2013 6:32 PM BST
Should have given it a gallop over here.

Stewards would have seen nothing.
Report starfish and coffee July 23, 2013 6:32 PM BST
He has had 2 rides in the last 6 months. That 50 day ban will be a right killer for him

Wonder how many days if it was one of the senior jockeys
Report aberdonia July 23, 2013 6:33 PM BST
trainer lets the young lad take the punishment.

hope they take care of him. Happy
Report Brian July 23, 2013 6:34 PM BST
No one should complain about punishment, it's only a pity that bigger fish aren't treated in similar fashion.
Report elisjohn July 23, 2013 6:35 PM BST
should have ridden a McManus horse
Report tips July 23, 2013 6:35 PM BST
senior jock would have got a wink and a pat on the a rse
Report starfish and coffee July 23, 2013 6:35 PM BST
How many days did BM Cash get for his ride on MB last week ?
Report jmdc July 23, 2013 6:36 PM BST
Pity the Sligo stewards couldn't dish out the same to Cash - practically the same offence.
Report JEFKA July 23, 2013 6:36 PM BST
That is a shocking ban given the performance by The Misses Mangan and Walsh  a few weeks back when they let one go miles off in front. Poor judgement by the lad which is no different from their performances IMO. As we have come to expect , consistency doesn't seem to apply from one day to the next.
Report elisjohn July 23, 2013 6:37 PM BST
how many times a mcoy/ oneill horse tailed off, beaten dist, pulled up, then wins at 2/1 fav.
Report elisjohn July 23, 2013 6:38 PM BST
yes jefka even worse the 2nd that night won last night cull royal. I bloody backed him that nightCry
Report tips July 23, 2013 6:39 PM BST
will the horse get a ban as well?
Report rcing July 23, 2013 6:39 PM BST
must be a poor trainer to not have known the ability of the horse , and  to have run it as a non jigger .
if i was the owner i would be fuming , could have had a nice touch at a big price , or at least had a go .
Report by purpose July 23, 2013 6:41 PM BST
Little fish are sweet and the olde boys club are seen to be doing their job.They wont ever haul in a shark because they have no interest in the big boys........
Report Arklearkle July 23, 2013 6:41 PM BST
It is good to see stewards taking action. However it is always the small man
Report Arklearkle July 23, 2013 6:46 PM BST
Five meetings today - how many other non-jiggers.
Report onlooker July 23, 2013 6:48 PM BST
Massini's Trap (IRE)     11-2     T E Doran (7)     J Nash     4     25/1

      held up towards rear, moderate 7th travelling fine 2 out, moderate 5th at last and late headway run-in, kept on well under tender handling on inner

or ....
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    Massini's Trap (IRE) 25/1     4     10-9      J A Nash     —     —            
    Thomas Doran7

     
Held up in rear, remote 8th before 2 out, went 6th between last 2 and still plenty to do travelling well in moderate 5th before last, stayed on strongly without threatening principals, nearest finish

ANALYSIS
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The run ofMassini´s Trap caught many an eye, including that of the stewards. His rider only got after the strong traveller in the closing stages and he flashed home, albeit all too late.
Irrespective of what one thinks, this suggests that the four-year-old is finally going to build on his debut run in a 1m maiden last year.
Report in hell July 23, 2013 6:51 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaugh at the ride
Report JEFKA August 8, 2013 7:41 PM BST
Form franked tonight. Entered at Roscommon in a few days time.
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