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By:
starkeycars
When: 12 Jul 13 15:04
One of the stewards is called Adrian Pratt ...well named Laugh
By:
stu
When: 12 Jul 13 15:04
had no bet, but I think the rules are ridiculous - zero protection against dangerous rides
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 12 Jul 13 15:05
In my opinion Ima, I don't think Sky Lantern was for passing the winner. Granted, the crack in the face didn't help, but I was worried as a SL backer long before the drift across the track. Buick outrode Hughes. Tactics were right and you have to say that any horse with the necessary speed would have gone past EK in a flash.Drift or no drift.
By:
starkeycars
When: 12 Jul 13 15:05
The great Lester piggott  said all stewards were wooden tops Excited
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 12 Jul 13 15:06
Totally agree Horse Sense. Just to reiterate, I backed the second.
By:
mickstick
When: 12 Jul 13 15:12
Buick had his whip in the 'correct' hand, but still the horse hung. Why did the stewards not take into account Buick didn't put the stick down and just push the horse out? Sky Lantern has passed horses to win her races, so why wouldn't she go past today? Because she was stopped from doing so. Simple.

It's a rule for those willing to break the rules to win, introduced because stewards were making so many mistakes on raceday that were reversed at a later date. But now we just as well have first past the post and be done with it and sod the consequences.
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 12 Jul 13 15:17
Both horses covered the same amount of ground. Of course if Sky Lantern and Hughes had run straight and EK drifted across the track SL would have won.Horses cannot give ground away generally speaking. Problem is they ran the same distance and still EK beat it. I still say if SL had been good enough, it would have passed EK. It wasn't, and the loon on its back didn't try to switch. Two furlongs from home it was still an option.
By:
corruptus in extremus
When: 12 Jul 13 15:18
evilroyslade,whats what the hannons do or say got to do with a fair playing field? You 2 would be good on a jury
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 12 Jul 13 15:21
I was agreeing with comment on ALWAYS HOLDING SKY LANTERN, which was obvious to anyone watching the race. As for the Canford Cliffs bit, well yes, Hannon did bleat on and took defeat like a spoiled brat. Nothing to do with this race, but nevertheless a valid comment.
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 12 Jul 13 15:23
Well done Mary Hinge. Spot on post!
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 12 Jul 13 15:25
home town decision - Lambourn lads gotta knock 'em out to get a draw in Newmarket.Wink
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 12 Jul 13 15:26
To those who believe SL would have won had they both run straight I respect your opinion. I just don't agree with it. As a SL backer I was as said before, WORRIED long before they set off to the other side of the track. Hughes was not going as well as Buick!
By:
corruptus in extremus
When: 12 Jul 13 15:27
3 day ban for buick,gosden in his interview said he did everything right.
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 12 Jul 13 15:28
The thing is though both horses covered the same amount of ground EVILROYSLADE because EK forced SL to do so, but the point some of us are suggesting is that EK prevented SL from running in a straight line, which if their racing positions on the track were reversed wouldn't have been the case. Therefore by EK drifting towards SL and carrying her across the track has made her cover far more ground in racing than the neck she was beaten by if she was on the other side of EK and had been able to race in a straight line.

The easiest way to decide it is to ask yourself which horse benefited more and which suffered as a result of the drifting? Even if it couldn't be prevented, the 2nd shouldn't still be punished for that.
By:
Gibberish
When: 12 Jul 13 16:06
What was the betting on the enquiry on here?
I thought that was a 'flip of a coin' situation...I didn't have a bet but I'd have been very worried if on Elusive Kate as stewarding is still difficult to predict despite the benefit always seeming to be with the FPTP.

I didn't contribute with an opinion before the race (so I'm after-timing in spades) but I did think Sky Lantern was worth laying as Hannon & Hughes have stated numerous times that they're looking forward to stepping her up to 12f, and with just three rivals it was always gonna be a concern.
That said, given a sizeable field and a decent pace (maybe in The d'Astarte in a few weeks) I think Sky Lantern will reverse the form comfortably.

PS - that group one win at Deauville for Elusive Kate last year was DEFINITELY over the straight mile.
By:
tips
When: 12 Jul 13 16:09
started out 1.1 to keep it finished at 1.38 or so
By:
Gibberish
When: 12 Jul 13 16:10
Thanks Tips...I'd definitely have been a 'Sir Coward de Custard' and traded Happy
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