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posy
02 Jul 13 11:02
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They have told me they're not amending settlement of the result.....this needs to be given maximum publicity
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Report Dr Gonzo July 2, 2013 11:03 AM BST
A joke of a firm.
Report wee eck July 2, 2013 12:47 PM BST
Need all the dough they can get to help pay the fees that Victor jnr charges for his TV appearances.
Report Big Boss July 2, 2013 1:20 PM BST
when your a wag, doors just open

when your a welcher, doors just close

oooooohhhhh Laugh
Report WFT July 2, 2013 1:24 PM BST
Boycott Bet Victor ?

I think you'll find that they've boycotted most punters by closing the accounts of anyone who dares win a few bob off them.

They shouldn't be allowed an operating licence.
Report posy July 2, 2013 1:36 PM BST
The Racing Post should go some way to retrieving it's reputation by calling for those s **** bookmakers like Bet Victor to do the decent thing and resettle bets on Extra Noble. Failing that they should warn punters that they should not risk betting with them as in fiascos like this they will not be treated fairly.Come on you intrepid journalists for once put your head above the parapets and name and shame Victor Chandler.
Report thearchmeister July 2, 2013 1:41 PM BST
would you return the money if you had backed the loser?
Report the dealer July 2, 2013 1:42 PM BST
a nonsense of a thread
Report scaredmoney July 2, 2013 1:42 PM BST
more chance of heavy snow falling tomorrow posy
Report gills nut July 2, 2013 1:43 PM BST
Have BF amended paid on the winner? or is it still a dead-heat.
Report the dealer July 2, 2013 1:44 PM BST
have bookmakers asked for refunds on the loser they paid out on?
Report Big Boss July 2, 2013 1:44 PM BST
all in their terms unfortunately Posy.

Victor only interested in the mugs for the online Casino, welching on a goodwill opportunity wont have their PR dept up in arms, they don't want punters on Racing
Report Big Boss July 2, 2013 1:47 PM BST
The dealer - you are a buffoon.

Victor and Lads have gained significantly on the deal at this juncture in time.

Paying out half stakes on a 16/1 rag over and above the rightful winner isn't going to break the bank.
Report posy July 2, 2013 1:48 PM BST
No but that is not the point...Stan James,365,Paddy and Hills have made ex gratia payments so why should anyone in future bet with Victor Chandler if he doesn't also play fair with those who backed the winner...he should pay up and then all the bookmakers should sue the BHA as it is their employee's negligence that has caused the problem and they will be insured for losses arising on the ineptitude and negligence of their emplyees.
Report the dealer July 2, 2013 1:55 PM BST
cheers BB, regardless of the amounts its the same as people getting paid fully on the winner.
Report scaredmoney July 2, 2013 2:02 PM BST
are firms paying out on the multi's that were affected aswell or just singles?
Report Big Boss July 2, 2013 2:05 PM BST
singles only
Report scaredmoney July 2, 2013 2:07 PM BST
would be far too much to ask

still saved them a fortune hasnt it
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD July 2, 2013 2:10 PM BST
dealer yaw a buffoonLaugh
Report the dealer July 2, 2013 2:17 PM BST
i know Laugh

oh well, probably deserved it, wasnt the most intelligent of posts to be honest
Report Big Boss July 2, 2013 2:18 PM BST
honesty is the best policy, everyone makes a mistake Laugh
Report the dealer July 2, 2013 2:24 PM BST
years ago it was simple, no one looked for or got refunds for the likes of this, horses not starting etc at least then you knew where you stood. bookmakers in a way only have them selves to blame i suppose for starting it all, with cheap PR refunds in the past. it seems now that the punter feels its their duty to pay under circumstances like this one.
Report scaredmoney July 2, 2013 2:27 PM BST
surely those affected are entitled to "chance their arm"

good luck to them
Report thearchmeister July 2, 2013 2:28 PM BST
the bottom line is you would be apathetic if you hadnt of lost money from it
Report Big Boss July 2, 2013 2:29 PM BST
to be fair, this really is a one-off incident.

or is it, a few photo's are being dragged up from the archives now Laugh
Report roddyo July 2, 2013 2:30 PM BST
Being one of those whose account he closed after 25 years for being in profit I cannot say I `m surprised at Victor not paying out
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Report posy July 2, 2013 4:48 PM BST
Sent this email to Timeform/Betfair radio which they discussed but when reading on air didn't read out the names of either the decent bookmakers or the welchers Ladbrokes and Bet Victor. Neither did they address the issue of the racing press not covering the fiasco.

What are your thoughts on the Extra Noble debacle at Kempton last Wednesday when the judge Dave Smith called a dead heat a result which the BHA have now overturned.365,William Hill,Paddy Power,Stan James have resettled the race and paid backers of Extra Noble yet Ladbrokes and Bet Victor have refused to pay up. Cyril Stein and Victor Chandler must be turning in their graves.

Also why has the racing press ignored this fiasco until now when the betfair community have been up in arms over what was obviously a wrong call by the judge.
Report elise July 2, 2013 5:12 PM BST
it's their choice, they don't have to follow others with ex gratia payments

as dealer said, those that make punters assume they have a right when they don't, it's a concession for publicity

if you don't like it don't bet with them, but they've done nothing wrong within the rules
Report denathorn July 3, 2013 12:52 AM BST
Sky Bet spokesman Michael Shinners said: "Clearly this was an exceptional circumstance where favourite backers can rightly feel aggrieved they were not paid out in full. We have decided to pay out on all singles on the winner, Extra Noble."
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