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posy
02 Jul 13 11:02
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They have told me they're not amending settlement of the result.....this needs to be given maximum publicity

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By:
Dr Gonzo
When: 02 Jul 13 11:03
A joke of a firm.
By:
wee eck
When: 02 Jul 13 12:47
Need all the dough they can get to help pay the fees that Victor jnr charges for his TV appearances.
By:
Big Boss
When: 02 Jul 13 13:20
when your a wag, doors just open

when your a welcher, doors just close

oooooohhhhh Laugh
By:
WFT
When: 02 Jul 13 13:24
Boycott Bet Victor ?

I think you'll find that they've boycotted most punters by closing the accounts of anyone who dares win a few bob off them.

They shouldn't be allowed an operating licence.
By:
posy
When: 02 Jul 13 13:36
The Racing Post should go some way to retrieving it's reputation by calling for those s **** bookmakers like Bet Victor to do the decent thing and resettle bets on Extra Noble. Failing that they should warn punters that they should not risk betting with them as in fiascos like this they will not be treated fairly.Come on you intrepid journalists for once put your head above the parapets and name and shame Victor Chandler.
By:
thearchmeister
When: 02 Jul 13 13:41
would you return the money if you had backed the loser?
By:
the dealer
When: 02 Jul 13 13:42
a nonsense of a thread
By:
scaredmoney
When: 02 Jul 13 13:42
more chance of heavy snow falling tomorrow posy
By:
gills nut
When: 02 Jul 13 13:43
Have BF amended paid on the winner? or is it still a dead-heat.
By:
the dealer
When: 02 Jul 13 13:44
have bookmakers asked for refunds on the loser they paid out on?
By:
Big Boss
When: 02 Jul 13 13:44
all in their terms unfortunately Posy.

Victor only interested in the mugs for the online Casino, welching on a goodwill opportunity wont have their PR dept up in arms, they don't want punters on Racing
By:
Big Boss
When: 02 Jul 13 13:47
The dealer - you are a buffoon.

Victor and Lads have gained significantly on the deal at this juncture in time.

Paying out half stakes on a 16/1 rag over and above the rightful winner isn't going to break the bank.
By:
posy
When: 02 Jul 13 13:48
No but that is not the point...Stan James,365,Paddy and Hills have made ex gratia payments so why should anyone in future bet with Victor Chandler if he doesn't also play fair with those who backed the winner...he should pay up and then all the bookmakers should sue the BHA as it is their employee's negligence that has caused the problem and they will be insured for losses arising on the ineptitude and negligence of their emplyees.
By:
the dealer
When: 02 Jul 13 13:55
cheers BB, regardless of the amounts its the same as people getting paid fully on the winner.
By:
scaredmoney
When: 02 Jul 13 14:02
are firms paying out on the multi's that were affected aswell or just singles?
By:
Big Boss
When: 02 Jul 13 14:05
singles only
By:
scaredmoney
When: 02 Jul 13 14:07
would be far too much to ask

still saved them a fortune hasnt it
By:
THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD
When: 02 Jul 13 14:10
dealer yaw a buffoonLaugh
By:
the dealer
When: 02 Jul 13 14:17
i know Laugh

oh well, probably deserved it, wasnt the most intelligent of posts to be honest
By:
Big Boss
When: 02 Jul 13 14:18
honesty is the best policy, everyone makes a mistake Laugh
By:
the dealer
When: 02 Jul 13 14:24
years ago it was simple, no one looked for or got refunds for the likes of this, horses not starting etc at least then you knew where you stood. bookmakers in a way only have them selves to blame i suppose for starting it all, with cheap PR refunds in the past. it seems now that the punter feels its their duty to pay under circumstances like this one.
By:
scaredmoney
When: 02 Jul 13 14:27
surely those affected are entitled to "chance their arm"

good luck to them
By:
thearchmeister
When: 02 Jul 13 14:28
the bottom line is you would be apathetic if you hadnt of lost money from it
By:
Big Boss
When: 02 Jul 13 14:29
to be fair, this really is a one-off incident.

or is it, a few photo's are being dragged up from the archives now Laugh
By:
roddyo
When: 02 Jul 13 14:30
Being one of those whose account he closed after 25 years for being in profit I cannot say I `m surprised at Victor not paying out
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When: 02 Jul 13 14:55
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By:
posy
When: 02 Jul 13 16:48
Sent this email to Timeform/Betfair radio which they discussed but when reading on air didn't read out the names of either the decent bookmakers or the welchers Ladbrokes and Bet Victor. Neither did they address the issue of the racing press not covering the fiasco.

What are your thoughts on the Extra Noble debacle at Kempton last Wednesday when the judge Dave Smith called a dead heat a result which the BHA have now overturned.365,William Hill,Paddy Power,Stan James have resettled the race and paid backers of Extra Noble yet Ladbrokes and Bet Victor have refused to pay up. Cyril Stein and Victor Chandler must be turning in their graves.

Also why has the racing press ignored this fiasco until now when the betfair community have been up in arms over what was obviously a wrong call by the judge.
By:
elise
When: 02 Jul 13 17:12
it's their choice, they don't have to follow others with ex gratia payments

as dealer said, those that make punters assume they have a right when they don't, it's a concession for publicity

if you don't like it don't bet with them, but they've done nothing wrong within the rules
By:
denathorn
When: 03 Jul 13 00:52
Sky Bet spokesman Michael Shinners said: "Clearly this was an exceptional circumstance where favourite backers can rightly feel aggrieved they were not paid out in full. We have decided to pay out on all singles on the winner, Extra Noble."
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