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Afternoon all
Well, I would have to say that being disciplined is very easy when u r winning but not so much when u r losing or struggling!!
I have definitely improved on chasing, backing short ones and lumping on more depending on the price.
As for the tipsters I have been following, I have dropped some, started them up again, reduced, increased stakes and generally tried to find a consistency to maximise profits.
the results for the ones I have been following based on a 1 point win on each selection at the prices advertised are as follows - p.s. these aren't my profits but the actual figures if u had backed every single selection advised.
Valueday +91
Valuenight +26
Ben Linfoot +79
Pricewise +85
Hugh Taylor +115
Overpriced +183
Petereview +39 with June results to come
Good luck all with whatever way u use to beat the bookies.
Well, I would have to say that being disciplined is very easy when u r winning but not so much when u r losing or struggling!!
I have definitely improved on chasing, backing short ones and lumping on more depending on the price.
As for the tipsters I have been following, I have dropped some, started them up again, reduced, increased stakes and generally tried to find a consistency to maximise profits.
the results for the ones I have been following based on a 1 point win on each selection at the prices advertised are as follows - p.s. these aren't my profits but the actual figures if u had backed every single selection advised.
Valueday +91
Valuenight +26
Ben Linfoot +79
Pricewise +85
Hugh Taylor +115
Overpriced +183
Petereview +39 with June results to come
Good luck all with whatever way u use to beat the bookies.
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Petereview +39
Approx Price availability to £25-£50
Valueday 80%
Valuenight 50%
Ben Linfoot 80%
Pricewise 75%
Hugh Taylor 60%
Overpriced 70%
Petereview 75%
Approx Price availability to £25-£50
Valueday 80%
Valuenight 50%
Ben Linfoot 80%
Pricewise 75%
Hugh Taylor 60%
Overpriced 70%
Petereview 75%
What about Birchy the nation follows his Monday column to the word?
Pity you dropped Skinto!
+ 233.14 points (Time of posting/Advised prices including all Rule 4 deductions)
He's different class!
+ 233.14 points (Time of posting/Advised prices including all Rule 4 deductions)
He's different class!
+ 64.63 points (Time of posting/Advised prices including all Rule 4 deductions)
No reply for 4 hours so you bump it back up yourself with stakes. Winning over 600 points to level stakes but you want to come and share this information with a bunch of strangers on a public betting forum. The more people that back these selections the harder it becomes for you to get matched and the lower the price you are likely to get in the future. So taking away all the free tipsters above one comes to the conclusion you are spamming for the one of the subscriptions ones.
SPAM NAP
SPAM NAP
has Hugh had a cracking June - as ATR for previous months show little profit.. / ?
its ok he'll add skinto in on the next set of figures at full profit 
The bad thing about it cc is some unaware newbie or guy/gal not aware will sign up to some of these named tipster sites above and no doubt end up doing their money.
if you making so much profit from these tipsters,why would you post it on a public forum..
must be a ego boost.
must be a ego boost.
will bump an earlier thread and you can make your mind up for yourselves
Delta - yep, he was up over 60 points this month.
James dean - it's hardly spam, most of these tipsters are free and already have a huge following. Me putting them up on here isn't going to make a jot of difference.
The dealer - please tell me which of the figures is bull? I can tell u these are spot on, all of them. Not to their advised stakes but to a 1 point level stake.
Knot in wood - I am not making a fortune from these tipsters, far from it, I am just trying to find a way to beat the bookies, there are thousands of tipsters out there, so many websites its unbelievable.
There are probably many better ones out there but these are the cheapest, I don't even follow 2 of them anymore as they charge the most and had the worst results.
This is supposed to be a forum for helping make money. That's all I am doing.
James dean - it's hardly spam, most of these tipsters are free and already have a huge following. Me putting them up on here isn't going to make a jot of difference.
The dealer - please tell me which of the figures is bull? I can tell u these are spot on, all of them. Not to their advised stakes but to a 1 point level stake.
Knot in wood - I am not making a fortune from these tipsters, far from it, I am just trying to find a way to beat the bookies, there are thousands of tipsters out there, so many websites its unbelievable.
There are probably many better ones out there but these are the cheapest, I don't even follow 2 of them anymore as they charge the most and had the worst results.
This is supposed to be a forum for helping make money. That's all I am doing.
Most of them are free yes we get that alex. It is the subscription ones you are trying to spam. Makes no sense at all for you posting them on here otherwise. You do understand this
Spam? Petereview is now charging £60 a month so I don't follow him, valuenight is £27 a month and the prices are impossible to get so I don't follow him either. I am hardly spamming, am trying to point out the ones I have found who have helped make me money.
They each have their good and bad points, pricewise has huge losing runs but is proven over a good few years but the prices are hard to get and u can't put on more than £50.
Hugh Taylor's bets are impossible to get the prices.
Overpriced is extremely difficult to get the prices and u will get your accounts shut very quickly, also he has only been going 10 months.
I am simply being honest about each one.
They each have their good and bad points, pricewise has huge losing runs but is proven over a good few years but the prices are hard to get and u can't put on more than £50.
Hugh Taylor's bets are impossible to get the prices.
Overpriced is extremely difficult to get the prices and u will get your accounts shut very quickly, also he has only been going 10 months.
I am simply being honest about each one.
Ok alex I'll tee it up for you to save all the mutual sparring. Who is the best ? how much per month/year ? And where do I sign ?
advertised prices that you cant get on, the figures like i said are bull
I am not telling others those details, I have no need.!!!
It's up to the individual to follow who they want to or just back their own judgement.
I spent 9 months following hundreds of tipsters to see who was any good.
It's up to the individual to follow who they want to or just back their own judgement.
I spent 9 months following hundreds of tipsters to see who was any good.
I'm not telling others those details, I have no need.!!!
Are you taking the piss. What does your 1st 2 posts do ? You've spent 9 months finding out the best ones just to put them on here for all and sundry to see. WALOFS
Are you taking the piss. What does your 1st 2 posts do ? You've spent 9 months finding out the best ones just to put them on here for all and sundry to see. WALOFS
The dealer - I put the average percentage of prices u can get for each tipster further down. On average u can get about 75% of the advertised price.
I don't follow valuenight or petereview at present, I just keep records of their results. I also backed skintos at the start of the year for a while.
The 5 I am following and backing from tomorrow are valueday, overpriced, pricewise, Hugh Taylor and benlinfoot,
I don't follow valuenight or petereview at present, I just keep records of their results. I also backed skintos at the start of the year for a while.
The 5 I am following and backing from tomorrow are valueday, overpriced, pricewise, Hugh Taylor and benlinfoot,
And no one could get all the prices so theoretical anyway.
Exactly saddo. If the bookies let u get the prices all the time it just goes to show that making a profit at the gee gees is possible.
Even though the people I have listed have made approx 600 points profit in 6 months, if u take off the prices I obtained, minus the selections I didn't back, minus the profit lost due to differing stakes and then the each way part of the bets then my profit would be a tiny fraction of 600!!!
Even though the people I have listed have made approx 600 points profit in 6 months, if u take off the prices I obtained, minus the selections I didn't back, minus the profit lost due to differing stakes and then the each way part of the bets then my profit would be a tiny fraction of 600!!!
if you had posted that at the top you would have made it a bit more clearer
It shows that people out there can make money backing horses. What I need to know now is how do they do it? Not including PW
It shows that people out there can make money backing horses. What I need to know now is how do they do it? Not including PW
Steamship..they keep it to themselves
otherwise they would no longer make money
Skintos approach is interesting..
of course it is easy to see what he does
but his system only works if he puts up winners
so it is a win win situation
and he is my favourite poster
Steamship..they keep it to themselves
otherwise they would no longer make money
Skintos approach is interesting..
of course it is easy to see what he does
but his system only works if he puts up winners
so it is a win win situation
and he is my favourite poster
I wondered when this advert for overpriced tips would resurface,nice touch,saying its a 6 month review,there all in profit,but hey look,overpriced just happen to be the best of the lot,i wont be returning to this thread and I would advise everyone else to do the same and let it fizzle out as quick as possible.
of course the other approach is those who sell their tips
they have worked out they make more money selling tips than backing them...and it is risk free
unless they lie, they would only survive long term if they put up winners
the problem for us punters..is how do we get on any meaningful amounts of money at their advertised prices
they have worked out they make more money selling tips than backing them...and it is risk free
unless they lie, they would only survive long term if they put up winners
the problem for us punters..is how do we get on any meaningful amounts of money at their advertised prices
imo to win long term at this game we need to find winners and value
which is very hard for most punters...but of course all posters on here win
which is very hard for most punters...but of course all posters on here win
all those positive figures are the biggest load of SH^T EVER
Xmoney - please tell me which of the profits u think are incorrect? I have monthly figures for,each of them. Remember this is over 6 months. 2 of them are averaging 4 and 7 points per month and charge a subscription fee which is why I have dropped them!
I don't remember putting up a website address on here spamming them either.
I have admitted that the prices are impossible to get. One put up last night was 14/1 and is now down to 3/1. I only got 5/1.
But all these tipsters must be doing something right or else why would all my accounts have been shut down for putting maximum bets of £50 on their selections?
I don't remember putting up a website address on here spamming them either.
I have admitted that the prices are impossible to get. One put up last night was 14/1 and is now down to 3/1. I only got 5/1.
But all these tipsters must be doing something right or else why would all my accounts have been shut down for putting maximum bets of £50 on their selections?
if these tipsters are making profits as they claim,why tell public,reduce odds?
Because like me, they can't get their bets on so make their money by charging people for them! Or at least thats my guess as to why they do it. They only need to charge £25 a quid a month and get 100 followers and its a £30k tax free income! But that wouldn't last if u didn't make a profit!
Their are tens of thousands of tipsters out there on twitter, Facebook, olbg,, relay an, strikeline racing, warehouse tipping, tweet nap, etc etc. I tried most of them. Some charge £100 a month!
The fact is that I used to,follow tipsters and make a profit but gave it all back on my own bets. The bookies didn't refuse me then. But since I have gone down the tipsters only route it's almost impossible to get on.
Their are tens of thousands of tipsters out there on twitter, Facebook, olbg,, relay an, strikeline racing, warehouse tipping, tweet nap, etc etc. I tried most of them. Some charge £100 a month!
The fact is that I used to,follow tipsters and make a profit but gave it all back on my own bets. The bookies didn't refuse me then. But since I have gone down the tipsters only route it's almost impossible to get on.
prob with following tipsters,u hav to punt every bet they tip,a road to the poorhouse
best to have a budget for yourself,pick certain races
bet for fun not ruin
when channel4 did ascot,an the Irish presenter said of the big punters--THE RIGHT ONES KNOW(fooook-all in my opinion)
best to have a budget for yourself,pick certain races
bet for fun not ruin
when channel4 did ascot,an the Irish presenter said of the big punters--THE RIGHT ONES KNOW(fooook-all in my opinion)
They do have an overround which everyone seems to forget about, they also have betfair to lay off. They also have traders who should know their job better, they are also a bookmakers which involves taking a gamble! Not to mention the ridiculous profits they make from the machines and the mug punters like I was for 15 years money to fall back on!
My problem is why people query or don't believe the profits. Why would I lie? Go onto the websites for any of them I have listed and see. I have the results myself so I know it's all factual. One tipster has made 4 points per month which is hardly worth shouting about especially when that turns into a loss with the prices I can get! Not to mention the subscription fees!
My problem is why people query or don't believe the profits. Why would I lie? Go onto the websites for any of them I have listed and see. I have the results myself so I know it's all factual. One tipster has made 4 points per month which is hardly worth shouting about especially when that turns into a loss with the prices I can get! Not to mention the subscription fees!
unfortunately bookmakers are run by accountants for shareholders, why would they lay them in this day and age? they dont need to is the simple answer.
siralex
What is the point of you starting a ....
'100% discipline 1/2 yearly review' - thread -
- when you, clearly did NOT adhere, FULLY, to the TIPSTERS, for whom, you have posted this plethora of percentages?
Without digging out your original ThreadS -
I clearly recall you posting - after around 3 weeks[/b[ - something like ...
"Dropping Pricewise" - then a week later ... "No more Sir Hugh" - and other similar 'adjustments'.
Only to then, about 3 weeks later - post an UPdate, [b]including ALL of their selections - BUT, ONLY, WHEN they had tipped the odd winner again, after a fortnight, or so.
YOU change{d} your mind more often than an hyperactive schizophrenic with Attention deficit disorder.
Your, "100% discipline, " has NOT, therefore, been anywhere near achieved.
What is the point of you starting a ....
'100% discipline 1/2 yearly review' - thread -
- when you, clearly did NOT adhere, FULLY, to the TIPSTERS, for whom, you have posted this plethora of percentages?
Without digging out your original ThreadS -
I clearly recall you posting - after around 3 weeks[/b[ - something like ...
"Dropping Pricewise" - then a week later ... "No more Sir Hugh" - and other similar 'adjustments'.
Only to then, about 3 weeks later - post an UPdate, [b]including ALL of their selections - BUT, ONLY, WHEN they had tipped the odd winner again, after a fortnight, or so.
YOU change{d} your mind more often than an hyperactive schizophrenic with Attention deficit disorder.
Your, "100% discipline, " has NOT, therefore, been anywhere near achieved.
I think this is a very interesting thread Siralex
I do wonder why people keep complaining of spam...if they can see it themselves they are in no danger
if that is what it is..
although they claim they are protecting others, but is that really there motives
The ultimate ridiculousness was accusing bf_fanatic of spam, in my opinion..
who in their right mind would pay
that bloke for tips
I miss him
, even though he drove everybody else bonkers
I do wonder why people keep complaining of spam...if they can see it themselves they are in no danger
if that is what it is..
although they claim they are protecting others, but is that really there motives
The ultimate ridiculousness was accusing bf_fanatic of spam, in my opinion..
who in their right mind would pay
that bloke for tipsI miss him
, even though he drove everybody else bonkers
siralex how would your tipsters have done if you drop the shorter priced tips, as I have discussed with you before about only doing Pricewise at 10-1+ at advertised prices.
ebulGery the only spam you could accuse bf of,was eating spam itself,his after timing was a1class
Onlooker - I haven't ever hidden the fact that I have dropped and brought back most of the tipsters I am following. The idea of the 100% discipline was ideally to stop doing any other bets whatsoever apart from the tipsters selections. To this extent I would say I have probably had approx 1 bet a day on average over the 6 months that I shouldn't have had Compared to approx half a dozen 'other' bets before I started this thread. I would say that's about an 85% per cent improvement in discipline.
When the tipsters were winning It was easy to not put on other bets, the hard points when pricewise goes 30 without a winner, Hugh's goes 25 and overpriced goes 20. That's when I found myself doing other bets to co pens ate the losses.
I am trying to win small amounts but long term unlike short term big wins in the past. All 7 tipsters have made a profit over 6 months and I haven't included skinto. To have found 8 out of 8 profitable tipsters has taken a lot of work. Even at half the odds advertised it is still approx 300 points profit in 6 months if I had backed every single selection.
Compared to 15 losing years this is much better!
When the tipsters were winning It was easy to not put on other bets, the hard points when pricewise goes 30 without a winner, Hugh's goes 25 and overpriced goes 20. That's when I found myself doing other bets to co pens ate the losses.
I am trying to win small amounts but long term unlike short term big wins in the past. All 7 tipsters have made a profit over 6 months and I haven't included skinto. To have found 8 out of 8 profitable tipsters has taken a lot of work. Even at half the odds advertised it is still approx 300 points profit in 6 months if I had backed every single selection.
Compared to 15 losing years this is much better!
To give u an example of the selections and odds I will give u today's bets and prices.
2.30p merchant of Venice 9/1. Got 9/1
4.45w paddy sol antis 22/1. Got 16/1
5.30p icy blue 11/1. Got 15/2
7.15fl fuzzy logic 14/1. Got 5/1
7.30w glenard 10/1. Got 10/1
8.00 just Darcy 11/4. Got 11/4
9.15fl hadeeth 5/1. Got 9/2
2.30p merchant of Venice 9/1. Got 9/1
4.45w paddy sol antis 22/1. Got 16/1
5.30p icy blue 11/1. Got 15/2
7.15fl fuzzy logic 14/1. Got 5/1
7.30w glenard 10/1. Got 10/1
8.00 just Darcy 11/4. Got 11/4
9.15fl hadeeth 5/1. Got 9/2
If only you hadn't dropped that failure Skinto!
Pontefract (Monday) 17:30, Talent Scout 5/1 (PP & WH)
Pontefract (Monday) 17:30, Talent Scout 5/1 (PP & WH)
I know. I toyed with putting him back in. Foolish to omit!! Great stuff again today.
Glad to see your making it pay siralex. How are you managing to keep your accounts open ?
I am not is the short answer!!
Use ladbrokes shop for overnight bets plus tote Internet account if prices with them, also have a Korals Internet and teli account. Have 2 paddies accounts but max 10 on each. No bet victor, bet3.65, Boyle, stan James, skybet accounts.
Only doing max of £50 so not as hard getting on with that amount.
Use ladbrokes shop for overnight bets plus tote Internet account if prices with them, also have a Korals Internet and teli account. Have 2 paddies accounts but max 10 on each. No bet victor, bet3.65, Boyle, stan James, skybet accounts.
Only doing max of £50 so not as hard getting on with that amount.
every time you put these tips up before the races they get turned over,you be better off keeping them to yourself.
To give u an example of the selections and odds I will give u today's bets and prices.
2.30p merchant of Venice 9/1. Got 9/1
4.45w paddy sol antis 22/1. Got 16/1
5.30p icy blue 11/1. Got 15/2
7.15fl fuzzy logic 14/1. Got 5/1
7.30w glenard 10/1. Got 10/1
8.00 just Darcy 11/4. Got 11/4
9.15fl hadeeth 5/1. Got 9/2
Why not just back the ones where you could get the prices? Backing a tip at 5/1 which is perceived as value at 14/1 is borderline insanity in my opinion.Paddy Sol Antis and Icy Blue had probably had any value eked out of them too by the time you backed them.
2.30p merchant of Venice 9/1. Got 9/1
4.45w paddy sol antis 22/1. Got 16/1
5.30p icy blue 11/1. Got 15/2
7.15fl fuzzy logic 14/1. Got 5/1
7.30w glenard 10/1. Got 10/1
8.00 just Darcy 11/4. Got 11/4
9.15fl hadeeth 5/1. Got 9/2
Why not just back the ones where you could get the prices? Backing a tip at 5/1 which is perceived as value at 14/1 is borderline insanity in my opinion.Paddy Sol Antis and Icy Blue had probably had any value eked out of them too by the time you backed them.
Made a hundred points in the last 10 days and lot previous to that i'm probably beating all these tipsters by 3 or 4 times as much.
If that's the case giggllo then FairPlay to you. I would love to know how u keep your accounts open!
Xmoney - In the past I would have had a big double on djokovic and Williams in the tennis but haven't done this year. It's these sort of money chasing 'easy' wins that i am being disciplined about.
P.s skinto - as long as u aren't going to disappear or get banned I am willing to include u as my 6th man!!! But beware, I may well have cursed u now!
Xmoney - In the past I would have had a big double on djokovic and Williams in the tennis but haven't done this year. It's these sort of money chasing 'easy' wins that i am being disciplined about.
P.s skinto - as long as u aren't going to disappear or get banned I am willing to include u as my 6th man!!! But beware, I may well have cursed u now!
These tipsters long term won't show much of a profit they may or may not be better than half decent punters over a period of time profits will be buttons,anyone can pick winners and have winning runs and think they know what they're doing.There are plenty of punters making profits but over a period of time will be peanuts,if someone could guarantee me a 100k a year for doing it part time with no other involvement I might consider it,thats how far behind the tipsters are.It's the same old story why aren't they betting their own picks yet charging buttons for them,forget getting best prices if you can find picks regularly that are 40% overpriced you don't need a tipping service you can still make far larger sums of money if you really know what you're doing.
siralex • July 2, 2013 4:34 PM BST
If that's the case giggllo then FairPlay to you. I would love to know how u keep your accounts open!
Xmoney - In the past I would have had a big double on djokovic and Williams in the tennis but haven't done this year. It's these sort of money chasing 'easy' wins that i am being disciplined about.
P.s skinto - as long as u aren't going to disappear or get banned I am willing to include u as my 6th man!!! But beware, I may well have cursed u now!
He'll be over the f*cking moon!
Especially, after originally deeming him a failure and dropping him after one losing month! (See the MANL in, 'Your Competitions', where he has had one losing month in the nine months of the year long competition) and is the overall leader!
Perhaps he doesn't wish to be included, 'as your 6th man'!
If that's the case giggllo then FairPlay to you. I would love to know how u keep your accounts open!
Xmoney - In the past I would have had a big double on djokovic and Williams in the tennis but haven't done this year. It's these sort of money chasing 'easy' wins that i am being disciplined about.
P.s skinto - as long as u aren't going to disappear or get banned I am willing to include u as my 6th man!!! But beware, I may well have cursed u now!
He'll be over the f*cking moon!
Especially, after originally deeming him a failure and dropping him after one losing month! (See the MANL in, 'Your Competitions', where he has had one losing month in the nine months of the year long competition) and is the overall leader!
Perhaps he doesn't wish to be included, 'as your 6th man'!
We knew there was a 5th man don't say there is a sixth the old KGB will be getting in touch.
If I am proved wrong then let it be known that I will accept my mistake and move on. If that means bringing the great man back then that is what I had to do! Out of the 1000's I trawled thru over 9 months, skinto has made it into the top 8. Not bad!
I only dropped him as I was looking to cut down on the number of bets and he was in 6th place at the time. Live and learn....
I only dropped him as I was looking to cut down on the number of bets and he was in 6th place at the time. Live and learn....
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