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By:
millhouse
When: 29 Jun 13 16:06
Have you got anything meaningful to contribute telepathic, or are you just on stalking duty today...?
By:
Ramruma
When: 29 Jun 13 16:07
I would expect Channel 4 to produce audience research and advertiser feedback suggesting the sexist image of racing in general and Big Mac in particular were significant. Remember that C4 almost axed racing without subsidies/sponsorship.
By:
millhouse
When: 29 Jun 13 16:10
Agree Ramruma - if the new C4 production team thought he wasn't going to damage them he'd still be there, imo...
By:
ashleigh
When: 29 Jun 13 16:14
millhouse as already stated, only happy when knocking big mac or pricewise followers, get a life.
By:
telepathic
When: 29 Jun 13 16:18
Millhouse
I really cannot be bothered getting involved in the same old,same old,same old regurgitated sh*t.
Big Mac an easy target for the politically correct.

Give it a break.
By:
ebulGery
When: 29 Jun 13 19:47
that is the problem
some of us saw what went as just laddish banter, it was all done in humour,
... others say it was sexism and misogyny at it's worst

I prefer the first as I am an older white male
others, younger I assume, prefer the values of the PC society we now live in

At a guess most of the audience fitted my bracket
but Ch 4 want the younger viewer(advertisers prefer this  as well..they spend more))

but I wonder are they there?
which explains falling viewing figuresConfused
we shall see what happens

just my opinion
By:
ebulGery
When: 29 Jun 13 19:53
there did used to be women presenter on the program...unless my eyes have goneConfused
but reading some of the posts on here, they appears to be have all been all maleShocked before Ms Balding arrived
anyway I would question what exactly she has to do with femininity anyway myself
the viewers and advertisersSad will decide in the end
which seems fairly democratic I suppose
By:
ebulGery
When: 29 Jun 13 21:48
another thing
that word misogynistic ..it means to hate women
how many blokes actually hate womenConfused
Blokes may see women as providers of sex
and think their job in life is to have kids, raise them, clean the house and do the washing upLaugh
it does  not mean they hate them...chauvinist or sexist is a much better word for this...I am definitely thatBlush
shows how our language is being cleverly manipulated to change our views
it goes on all the time...we just don't notice
By:
pedrobob
When: 30 Jun 13 11:18
BigMac espousing principles of the free market on ATR forum ......

er hem......
By:
pedrobob
When: 30 Jun 13 11:35
now going on about hacks now knowing stats of the Northumberland Plate in 1833..... and how they let down the punters....

But are you going to talk about what happened last week at Kempton?
By:
pedrobob
When: 30 Jun 13 11:49
now wants to cull 1/3 of the horses, trainers, jockeys, owners, courses.......

not mentioned his own profession yet.....
By:
ebulGery
When: 30 Jun 13 12:44
Laugh
By:
jonjo
When: 30 Jun 13 13:04
Simply cannot watch The Sunday Forum with him on it......
The double standards regarding the free market, sexism, the whip (set against his own support of fox hunting/hare coursing) simply makes me sick that he is even allowed a platform at any point for his ridiculous views on any subject.
If he were a campaigning journalist, putting the interests of the game at the front of his agenda, I could understand his gripes, but as he's made a lot of money with the same tired old act over a long period, I dont blame the new production team for looking for something different...
Anyone who thinks his "stop waving" "thefemale".....act is entertaining would probably still go into raptures over a flying dismount, or Thommo saying Mystic Meg cant make the races due to unforeseen circumstances & points at the sky open mouthed when a plane flies over.
The man has had his time & made plenty during that time, I find it utterly pathetic that he seems to want to be reporting from the betting ring, with no one having the option of calling time on this act, until he maybe drops dead on the job......
By:
telepathic
When: 30 Jun 13 13:18
At least he promotes a reaction,the current mob if described in colour would be Magnolia...........yawn.The programme is drowning in mediocrity.
By:
pedrobob
When: 30 Jun 13 13:33
At least he promotes a reaction....

Bit of an extreme comparison, but Pol Pot and Hitler "promoted a reaction" as well....
By:
telepathic
When: 30 Jun 13 13:39
Well "extremes" are what most people on this forum are about.Moderation is not the Buzz word.
By:
Fenway
When: 30 Jun 13 13:42
I am sure there are a lot of people who would be better than him at the job. It is a shame that Channel 4 did not see fit to untilise their services, because what they have now is a steaming pile of dung. Unwatchable, at least with the sound on.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 30 Jun 13 13:43
Never thought he had a chance of winning this case.....but now that he is cleared and can proceed to a tribunal....not so sure (?)

On his Twitter Page - but don't think it's him actually doing it - a pretty amusing comment:

"Mick Jagger is to the Stones what I am to Channel 4 racing. Nobody would be interested in watching them without Mick's appeal and charisma."
By:
saddo
When: 30 Jun 13 13:46
"Mick Jagger is to the Stones what I am to Channel 4 racing"


Pass the sick bucket, wac.
By:
saddo
When: 30 Jun 13 13:47
Apologies to the old git, didn't see your disclaimer, hound dog.
By:
Steamship
When: 30 Jun 13 14:43
jonjo I felt the same with Sunday forum today and thankfully I had recorded it so was able to fast forward most of his rantings.

If he wins this case then I will be astonished. The old company lost their contract surely if Mac has a case then so do Thommo and Catt.
By:
Dayjur
When: 30 Jun 13 15:52
so pretty laughable rubbish (as normal) being spouted on here...particularly like the idea of having right wing views being a reason not to employ someone...we have a right wing government so that rules a large section of the population out of employment from the start...anyway on big mac i don't think his performance in the job matters much at this stage. from what has been reported he was told he was no longer required in a telephone call with no reasons given. its impossible at this stage for an employer to retrospectively bring up employment issues which were not brought up (by the employer) at the time of employment. i think it will come down to something as simple as his contract and who he was employed by, and if he can show there was undue bias in the selection of his replacement(s). if no performance concerns were raised before the end of his employment, it would seem a reasonable argument that the only reason he was "sacked" was due to his age.
By:
1st time poster
When: 30 Jun 13 16:02
going by the loons on here its no wonder companys lose 99% of unfair dismisal cases,because francome, catt etc didnt fight it that makes big macs case any less worthy absolute tosh
By:
TELL DEL
When: 30 Jun 13 16:05
".....only reason he was "sacked" was due to age."

agree, that does seem a reasonable argument, but have to say he was looking increasingly unwell on screen, getting the shakes pretty bad, and also forgetting things and Tanya often stepping in to remind him or correct him, and the latter would be due to an age thing.  Anyway, if he is to win unfair dismissal damages, the big issue is was there undue bias in dropping him - because of age - after nearly 3 decades.
By:
Ramruma
When: 30 Jun 13 16:10
@Steamship -- surely if Mac has a case then so do Thommo and Catt.

Tommo & Catt are also no spring chickens which might support Mac's case that this was about age. Otoh, Jimbo is getting on  a bit.
By:
1st time poster
When: 30 Jun 13 16:16
probably tops the list of things you,ll never see in racing,

thommo and catt knocking over the gravey boat, Wink
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