BET FRED LUCKY 15 RIP OFF BEWARE

a teatal jake,i never bet the bigger odds if mine wons ,sometimes i GET the bigger odds if it wons,

THE SOONER THE GAMBLING COMMISSION GET A GRIP OF THIS FIRM OF BLUFFERS THE BETTER,MIND U I DONT KNOW WHO ARE THE BIGGER JOKERS

They can do what they like, but try contacting oddschecker. They removed the bog green tick from Ladbrokes until 9.00 a.m after complaints. The green tick should not have hidden caveats.

Caveats

I fort that was something you war when yew dressed up posh like.

THE SOONER THE GAMBLING COMMISSION GET A GRIP OF THIS FIRM OF BLUFFERS THE BETTER,MIND U I DONT KNOW WHO ARE THE BIGGER JOKERSAngry

They are not based here. You need to complain to Gibraltar.

Yawn.Too much shouting on here.

Has been for about 3 weeks now. I have to say that, far from defending bookmakers, it does actually say this on their concessions page, and on the scrolling pictures, that it does not apply to Lucky 15, 31 and 63's and also not to prices taken after the first show.

so if you put a L15 on you can still take the prices but you don't get the SP if your horse drifts to a bigger price than the one you have taken

but surely if the SP is less than the price you have taken you still get your price?

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/57063-announcement-gra-co...

second part of url -gra-concerning-hilo-reeldeal-games-7.html

its a concession, how is it a rip off?, shop around if you arent happy with what they offer.

maybe it's time all the books withdraw all these offers and concessions and we get back to where we were 20 years ago, WITH NOWT.

Agree, dealer, but the green tick on oddschecker should signify like for like, there is no asterisk to say that fred excludes bog on certain bets, there should be.

i agree with that but i suppose its not up to them how that site works,

loads of punters got mugged when baddies changed to after 10am

im not defending them and to be honest hardly ever use them but its a fact of life, you can offer loads of good stuff and nothing is said but take something away and the worlds against you.

It is up to oddschecker to remove it or point out the exclusions. When lads stopped bogs on overnight races the green tick stayed for a while but was removed until 10.00 a.m after people complained.
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Stick this one into freddy boy

ew lucky.

Loch May 5.45
Constantine 6.35
Gallipot 7.50
Hassle 8.35

You know it makes sense

they are concessions though TB not written in stone rules. suppose BOG was another example of how people got upset when the goal posts were moved by certain firms but at the end of the day it was something for nothing that they didnt need to give. still plenty of decent offers out there.

maybe your right saddo, i'm not sure.

anything i stick up here always loses

Looks interesting, dickie, I am fancying Constantine a little, and backed Hassle earlier, GL.

Chant 3.45 Carlisle ????

Gl if you got the price, a move for the Easterby thing would be interesting.

Ok i will

"3.45 CARLISLE,3.45 CARISLE,3.45 CARISLE!!!"


Fook thats better

They're still backing it, 3/1 tops now.

I have had so many funny chats with the online betfr3d representatives i said your best odds guaranteed are so **** anyway you might aswell just go evens the field best odds guaranteed and the representative wrote back "LOL I know" hope he wasnt sacked.
In fairness they are the only firm going 3 x the odds lucky 15     4 x the odds 31s   and 5 x the odds 63s with one winner but their prices are so brazenly shocking its only worth doing on favs or SP bets factor in the rule 4s too.
Dont know why anyones even bothered really he limits you to SP only the minute you win more than £200 anyway

Lucky 15 bets are not for professionals.

Jun 17, 2013 -- 11:04AM, THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD wrote:

Ok i will"3.45 CARLISLE,3.45 CARISLE,3.45 CARISLE!!!"Fook thats better

just got the joke

Facts-----who was claiming to be a professional.
So many charlie big nobs on here Lucky 15s are for mugs blah blah blah.
I won 13 bag off a 10p ew lucky 63 once.
Denigrating any bet on a betting forum is not for professionals

.......I won 13 bag off a 10p ew lucky 63 once.



How much have you left in your betting bank ?


Single win only - the only way to a profit long term. hth

who said I wanted or needed a long term profit

Single win only - the only way to a profit long term. hth

Rubbish, if you are consistently beating sp then multiples can only increase your edge.

kenny...i discovered this for the first time on Friday.Whilst a bookie has every right to vary promotions etc I felt annoyed by the stealthy way this has been implemented.Fair play if it was made prominent but it has been buried away in terms and conditions.

Ps Grimmy, I would much rather be on Dambuster in the 8:35, ran well behind Ducab on its debut and the winner was out of that decent maiden Remote won at Newbury.

Dealer

Facts what a load of shyte that is . . Triple odds one winner use the dirty stuff to get an edge get the value compound that value and you have a wonderful bet.

Why do you think laddies and there like want all luckys over a fiver unit ptl'd or sent to the Babys And Children depts??

You the mug here factsy baby . . . Tar

They said to me that they emailed all customers about this on the 16th may I DID NOT GET ANY EMAIL OF THEM DID ANY BODY ELSE  IS THERE ANY OTHER BOOKMAKER GOING TREBLE THE ODDS ON LUCKY 15S THANKS

"Single win only - the only way to profit long term".

LOL, Facts proves he hasn't got a clue.

Yes kenny loads of them in the shops you will just have to get of you arse

In fact its a fact that facts has got his facts wrong i m o.

plenty of bookies are treble odds but online its only baldmeister himself,,but like I say you get no advantage with his shoddy prices anyway so only really advantageous to SP or fav backers

what are the bookmakers thanks

i mean online bookmakers

There are no other online bookies offering treble odds one winner on any lucky bets

well fu4 it im not bean ripped of by betfred any more im closing my account

his prices are shiit most of the time anyway

his prices are shiit most of the time anyway

What are they

I know what a rip off i had one a couple of weeks back on a saturday i worked it out i had three winners from four but three of them drifted giving me -£79 less profit than at best price guarantee.

Wheres facts gawn

don't know why facts is being vilified for stating the obvious

the reason bookies offer consolations and bonuses on Lucky 15s is because of the high profit margin on the multiple

Yeah in the wrong hands they are a mugs bet but they sure aint a mugs bet in the right hands.

Tar.

Jun 17, 2013 -- 3:43PM, swift-tuttle wrote:

don't know why facts is being vilified for stating the obviousthe reason bookies offer consolations and bonuses on Lucky 15s is because of the high profit margin on the multiple

offering treble odds and bog has a massive impact on the % they make from them, hence the lack of treble odds on line

Swift if you was a bookie would you go triple the odds one winner on a lucky then lay all the sharks the dirty ew races???

At s/p you would not make a bean let alone if you was being picked off at the best prices.

Silly post by facts i m o.

PS . . . . TAKE A BOW DEALER

half bow

yes I see

Fred is obviously being charitable in offering treble odds on 1 winner as he wants to see his punter friends make loads

or the rest simply dont want the free money by going treble odds, if you want a sacastic answer back.

sorry for being sarcastic dealer

I suspect the truth of the matter is that if a bookie takes L15s en masse, the likelihood is that he will show a considerable profit on them

Some punters will be lucky however and these punters will be firm advocates of the bet

GandalfTheGrey     17 Jun 13 12:01 
"Single win only - the only way to profit long term".

LOL, Facts proves he hasn't got a clue.





My betting bank says you're the one to be laughed at my friend.

Most on here - don't have a strategy ,don't keep records of bets - and as its just fun for them - then fair enough. But if its  a living you're after - its hard work - and consistency and diligence are key, as is discipline. I repeat the only way to long term profit is by backing certain races to singles win only. 40 years at this game has proved that.

30 years in the game here  hunny both sides of the counter, and there is nowt wrong in a dirty ew lucky 15 or a nasty ew double down stuffed down there throats.

You certainly was not being errr "vilefryed" by me,i just wanted a discussion.

Do they still have discussions on here????

........You the mug here factsy baby . . . Tar



That's a discussion ?

It is where i come from . . .

ps ive never written a bet down in my life that dont make a good punter finding angles in makes a good punter while you scribbleing down you latest bet/bets ive poss found 2 more value ones or a back to lay or a filth bag or a laddies lock in or a . . . .need i go on???

WD, Dealer.

It's a forum, these things should be discussed on here but without the need for slagging matches.
For what it's worth I am in facts corner with the big win singles as a way of making profit long term but I also would advise anyone who does back via lucky 15's to only use a bookie who does treble the odds one winner.
The thing is I see people doing lucky 15's all the time and they do it in their local bookie, they can't be bothered to go next door for treble the odds. That sums up most people who venture into a bookies unfortunately.
Each to their own though. I c accumulators bets as a way of trying to win big via a lucky bet rather than a small and consistent profit which is what I am after following 15 years of mug punting which included accumulator bets.

The thing is I see people doing lucky 15's all the time and they do it in their local bookie, they can't be bothered to go next door for treble the odds. That sums up most people who venture into a bookies unfortunately.

Agreed . . . . up until a point

...For what it's worth I am in facts corner with the big win singles as a way of making profit long term


Thanks siralex