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Jontyblade
06 Jun 13 20:25
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i often do think the irish don't give 2 **** what happens to their horses
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Report lil June 6, 2013 8:26 PM BST
what a disgrace
Report pumphol. June 6, 2013 8:26 PM BST
That was awful
Report Amanda Hugnkiss June 6, 2013 8:26 PM BST
Shocking scenes.
Report Gay Icon June 6, 2013 8:26 PM BST
They couldn't care less.

Money is all those feckers care about.
Report wonders June 6, 2013 8:26 PM BST
rip poor thing
Report red beach ball June 6, 2013 8:26 PM BST
agree horrific just seen it and first time ive seen anything like that Sad
Report Blades June 6, 2013 8:26 PM BST
what caused the injury to that horse?
Report stridingedge June 6, 2013 8:27 PM BST
thank fcuk i missed it

saw them waved round but was watching my horse
Report john92 June 6, 2013 8:27 PM BST
Just pulled up Dessie said so I'm guessing a heart attack.
Report Percy Filth June 6, 2013 8:27 PM BST
race should have been stopped before that
Report gooroo June 6, 2013 8:27 PM BST
dreadful scene,
Report MayoMan June 6, 2013 8:28 PM BST
I think it broke a leg on the turn in
Report skygreenzone June 6, 2013 8:28 PM BST
That was bad really really bad that will make national news
Report rcing June 6, 2013 8:28 PM BST
seemed to pull up , heart attack probably .

sad scenes .

they just didn't have time to get the screens up Sad
Report Monte Christo June 6, 2013 8:30 PM BST
i often do think the irish don't give 2 **** what happens to their horses

What a stupid statement to come out with ffs.

There's some tripe posted on here but that's up there.
Report skygreenzone June 6, 2013 8:31 PM BST
Well STOP THE FECKING RACE.
Report lustrumm June 6, 2013 8:32 PM BST
What screens rcing? I'll bet there is not a screen at the track. All the were short of doing was jumping the poor beast.
Report Amanda Hugnkiss June 6, 2013 8:34 PM BST
Screens my fAnny..

They don't care for screens.
Report lustrumm June 6, 2013 8:35 PM BST
No point in expecting an informed comment from the Yank on ATR who barely even knows what has happened
Report Jontyblade June 6, 2013 8:35 PM BST
thanks for your feedback monte cristo :)

not the first time i've seen that sight on an irish racecourse. and the amount of shattered horses you see that fall at the end of races on their desperate heavy going during the winter is shocking
Report Monte Christo June 6, 2013 8:37 PM BST
I'm not going to defend that Jonty because that was a shambles.No doubt.

Just annoyed with your rather sweeping generalisation in your OP.
Report rcing June 6, 2013 8:46 PM BST
ok apologies if i got this wrong , but do they use screens in ireland ?
Report 11kv June 6, 2013 9:56 PM BST
Had time to stop the race ,piss poor.............
Report creatureinthesky June 6, 2013 10:23 PM BST
I'm not saying I understand what it costs at any level to run a horse, but it does strike me that on days that UK meetings have one or two races that can scrape the dead-eight, Irish meetings have bum races with 15- 30 odd runners through the card.
What happens to these horses ? The vast majority must turn out to be no good.

All this in a country which is effectively skint.
Report conkian June 6, 2013 10:50 PM BST
I have just seen the replay of this race and I have to say it was a disgrace and Tipperary racecourse should be utterly ashamed of there selves. they had plenty of time to stop the race and their actions border on barbaric imo. RIP to the poor horse
Report Arklearkle June 6, 2013 10:57 PM BST
Creature what do you mean by bum races.
Report shamokin June 6, 2013 11:01 PM BST
truly sickening sight.
Report creatureinthesky June 6, 2013 11:58 PM BST
Arklearkle

Races that have 20 odd runners and crap prize money.
Report creatureinthesky June 6, 2013 11:58 PM BST
Ever see a 30+ runner maiden in the UK ?
Report yummy June 7, 2013 1:32 AM BST
Creature

For your information

Prize money in Ireland is vastly superior to that in the UK  with the lowest winners purse today ( a maiden hurdle)  the equivalent of £4,200. Only 8 out of the 36 races in the UK TODAY WERE WORTH MORE THAN THE LEAST VALUABLE IRISH RACE. . Only one NH race a handicap chase in Worcester was more valuable .
Unfortunately for your argument the terrible incident which happened today occurred in the most valuable race held in either IRELAND or the UK that day with a value equivalent to £ 8,134
How can you say that Irish prize money is "crap" when 15 of the 36 UK races today raced for prize money less than £2,000

And by the way the next time you see a 30+ maiden in Ireland I will personally fly you over.
Report yummy June 7, 2013 1:54 AM BST
In Ireland in 2012 a total of 28,882 runners ran in 2516 (average 11 runners) for a total prizemoney of the equivalent of £37,500,000

The previous year in the UK  a total of 94,376 runners ran 10,147 races for prize money of £93,892,923

Facts
Report Arklearkle June 7, 2013 10:47 AM BST
Creature you need to get out a bit more and take your blinkers off. Your knowledge of the facts beggars belief.
Report turnip turns June 7, 2013 10:55 AM BST
Just watched this raceSad wtf wasn't the race stopped !
Report hearts1874 June 7, 2013 11:00 AM BST
what race was it?
Report turnip turns June 7, 2013 11:02 AM BST
8.20
Report BobSievier June 7, 2013 11:03 AM BST
He's Canadian
Report turnip turns June 7, 2013 11:09 AM BST
RacingGuru ‏@FrankelTheGreat 7m
Matt Chapman tweeted about the Tipperary incident last night yet subsequently deleted it.Why are people trying to pretend it never happened?
Report Biscar Two from a mile back June 7, 2013 11:10 AM BST
Had a day off yesterday so just watched this.

It looks absolutely disgraceful but we dont know the facts however the guy running on the track with the flag was lucky.

It seems obvious to say the race should have been stopped.

It is possible that they didnt have enough time to get someone on the bend which would have been necessary to stop the race.
I think if that was the case they should have raced round the horse and taken that hurdle.
It's easy to be critical but we don't know the facts,are the hurdle crews in contact with officials, did they have time after the horse went down etc.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 7, 2013 11:13 AM BST
Well said Biscar.

The poor horse collapsed with a heart attack but did not die immediately.

The flag man was brave and someone you would like on your side
Report hearts1874 June 7, 2013 11:18 AM BST
that's horrific, just seen itSad
Report silvergreaser June 7, 2013 11:18 AM BST
I only caught a glimpse of it last night as I was following the leaders, just watched it again absolutely amazing there wasn't a major pile up and possibly a very badly injured flag man, just imagine the headlines, "major pile up over a stricken horse".

The Tipp management can count themselves very lucky indeed that they got away with it.
Report turnip turns June 7, 2013 1:15 PM BST
News

Statement from Tipperary re the horse , Let Yourself Go, Tipperary Races Thursday 6th June

Friday, 7 June 2013

In the 8:20pm race at Tipperary Racecourse on Thursday 6th of June, the horse Let Yourself Go was pulled up by his Jockey after two furlongs as he felt that something was not right with the horse.   

As the field had another circuit of the track to go, the jockey attempted to guide the horse out of the line of running. Despite this, the horse collapsed on the track while the runners and riders were only three furlongs away, jumping the fourth last hurdle.   

Track staff at the second last hurdle followed correct procedure to bypass the hurdle. It was not possible to erect screens in the very short space of time available as it would have compromised the safety of the oncoming runners, riders and members of staff required to hold the screens.   

The veterinary staff and connections did everything they could to assist the horse in situ and when it was clear that the horse had died he was quickly and humanely moved off the track.   

Tipperary regrets the loss of Let Yourself Go and extends our sincere condolences to all connections. We also deeply regret any distress caused to racegoers and viewers. Please be assured the welfare of all horses and jockeys is of paramount importance at Tipperary Racecourse. This incident will be reviewed in detail to ensure the risks from incidents of this sort are minimised in future.


http://www.tipperaryraces.ie/Tipperary/News/Statement-from-Tipperary-re-the-horse-,-Let-Yourself-Go,-Tipperary-Races-Thursday-6th-June/
Report Biscar Two from a mile back June 7, 2013 1:19 PM BST
"the horse collapsed on the track while the runners and riders were only three furlongs away.Track staff at the second last hurdle followed correct procedure to bypass the hurdle"

Not sure it was the correct move to bypass the hurdle as they have in effect forced the field to go nearer the stricken horse imho.

A difficult situation though.
Report yummy June 7, 2013 1:48 PM BST
Where's Creature

3 furlongs less than 1 minute to react . 2 mile race took less than 4 minutes ie 1 minute per 4 furlons
Report silvergreaser June 7, 2013 2:46 PM BST
If thats what happened as they say then they really were caught on the hop, trying to stop the race might have caused all sorts of confusion among jockeys?.
Report bilbobaggins June 7, 2013 2:57 PM BST
So the nonsense on this thread has proven to be just that. They had absolutely no choice because they only had 20 seconds to react. Learn the facts before making judgement .
Report john92 June 7, 2013 3:04 PM BST
20 seconds?
Report bilbobaggins June 8, 2013 10:05 AM BST
The horse collapsed and died when they were leading the horse away when the field were jumping the fourth last less than 3 furlong away (i.e. between 20-30 seconds). As I said learn the facts before making judgement.
Report J.R.Hartley June 8, 2013 10:15 AM BST
OP has made a bit of a tit of himself tbf.....
Report bilbobaggins June 8, 2013 11:01 AM BST
Yep - but hasn't got the guts to show himself again.
Report john92 June 8, 2013 12:18 PM BST
You have turned "only three furlongs away" (Tipperary statement) into "less than 3 furlong away" and you have backtracked from 20 seconds to 20-30 seconds.... either of which would have been impossible.

The race took 3 mins 52.7 seconds or roughly 14.5 secs per furlong.

Having a different opinion is part of life but telling people to learn the facts when you clearly haven't is out of order.
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