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jonjo
05 Jun 13 19:25
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FFS, how much more are people going to be expected to put up with before everyone starts betting on other stuff.......
This sport has ZERO regulation, and not a thing is being done about it

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By:
Try My Best
When: 05 Jun 13 19:35
I think Big Mac was right when he advocated long term bans in the years
By:
Barton Bank
When: 05 Jun 13 19:51
The day to day racing has no credibility now. Even people who bet on it and make money realise the game is in a shocking state.
By:
turnip turns
When: 05 Jun 13 20:17
Must admit my patience is waring thin at the moment,things do seem to be out of control all round and the gamble on Planetoid  was really taking the p i s s,literally in the face of the BHACrazy
By:
roo
When: 05 Jun 13 20:19
That complete piss take at newton abbot today was just a joke,they think they are clever too, thats whats laughable
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Jun 13 20:20
if you could name a yard where this wouldnt happen for a long time after bergin at haydock it would be this yard,up and coming trainer been let down by his jockeys,o,mera should bite the bullet and set the trend by stating they wont ride for him again
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Jun 13 20:22
i done my dough on this horse when it was stopped at newcastle ist time out ,again next time when obviously well backed and no value and done it again tonight,i,m certainly losing interest
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 05 Jun 13 20:25
10 days means f-all....

laughable.
By:
jonjo
When: 05 Jun 13 20:34
10 days is simply a slap in the face to anyone who wasted their time/money picking this horse out & backing it........
Some gawp actually emailed ATR saying 'people make mistakes, footballers miss open goals etc'
What he doesnt realise is that no footballer missed an open goal 'on purpose'........these jockeys are deliberately & wilfully easing off, it's not a mistake, it's unprofessional & it's even more unprofessional of the local stewards to be so f***ing stupid that they "cannot be certain the horse would have won"

Absolute p!ss take & it's getting worse by the day under Bittar who wont answer constructive tweets, but prefers to waffle on about what a good film Anchorman is......WAFPC
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 05 Jun 13 20:37
everyone was thinking Bittar might make some positive changes.

Now we all know, he doesn't want to rock the boat.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 05 Jun 13 20:47
As i said at the time, he's an old boy so why should he..
By:
Banned_Banks
When: 05 Jun 13 21:19
Bittar is old?
By:
saddo
When: 05 Jun 13 21:20
Which race are we on about, please?
By:
Banned_Banks
When: 05 Jun 13 21:24
4.20 NA.
By:
saddo
When: 05 Jun 13 21:25
Thamks.
By:
onlooker
When: 05 Jun 13 21:26
Banned_Banks     05 Jun 13 21:19 

Bittar is old?
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He means that BITTAR haw worked for the BHA BEFORE, a few years ago.
By:
basilbrush
When: 05 Jun 13 21:27
Agree with everything that's been said on this thread, the sport is in a shocking state regards cheating, non triers/improvers. The journos and commentators don't help matters by constantly making excuses for the blatant poor rides/results/performances day in day out. No wonder turnover on horse racing is on the way down, while sports betting is on the way up, absolutely no integrity in horse racing anymore, except possibly in group races, though even those trainers go well hooky with the lesser lights in their stables.
By:
throwthetellyoutawindow
When: 05 Jun 13 21:34
that 2.45 race at Leicester on Monday? the Philip Prince ride on the willie McKay owned Charles Smith trained COASTAL PASSAGE told u all u need to know about the current flat racing scene absofeckinlutely RANCID my friends.Sad
By:
waha
When: 05 Jun 13 21:45
just watched the coastal passage race, that is actually rancid, as you say.
By:
Cade
When: 05 Jun 13 21:52
best to avoid the bendy low class racing & stick with the racing at the top courses imo
By:
throwthetellyoutawindow
When: 05 Jun 13 21:57
Cade you are not wrong but has it always been like this or is it getting worse,seems to be a major incident every day atm.
By:
racingstar
When: 05 Jun 13 21:58
Amazingly,all the "bleaters" will continue to bet.
Nothing new happened.
By:
turnip turns
When: 05 Jun 13 22:04
i will bet as per normal in decent races and not low grade stuff and you're right nothing new has happened,but that doesn't make it right in anyway,nothing wrong in a gamble just the way it's conducted .
By:
Kriskin
When: 05 Jun 13 22:15
It's NO worse nowadays than 20 yeqrs ago.  The only difference now is that we can all see the races on TV.  Years ago it was over the old blower and no one apart from people on the track would see what was going on.
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 05 Jun 13 22:25
my attitude to the game has totally changed......when i see one of my selections drift like a barge, i usually dont back it now and THEY NEVER WIN...........its ok when one drifts from say 4/1 to 11/2..........but when u see it kick out further by a point every 30 seconds, u know it wont win. flirtinaskirt was one such today. drifted to 5/1 at the off...........im not saying it was pulled, maybe it is just not that good, but when i saw that massive drift, i said no way hoosay.........and it couldnt move out of its own way.
By:
yorkie1
When: 05 Jun 13 22:29
agreed the game's in a fookin state - coastal passage on monday at leicester was a joke, nolan tonight was even worse......takin' punters for mugs time and time again and fook all happens.........next race lads!
By:
racingstar
When: 05 Jun 13 22:30
Most punters on here are "mugs",Yorkie!
By:
yorkie1
When: 05 Jun 13 22:31
you're probably right!
By:
judorick
When: 05 Jun 13 22:35
yeah that cufflink done the same today, ended up place laying it, total non trier
By:
thirty-three
When: 05 Jun 13 22:41
All except you Racingstar.  Mr ChippieLaugh
By:
racingstar
When: 05 Jun 13 22:47
I have backed my share of "Not Offs",trente trois.
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 05 Jun 13 22:47
The Racing Authorities treat your average punter with complete contempt.The majority of the Racing Media are unwilling to ask anything resembling an "awkward" question for fear of upsetting the people they are faced with every day at the courses,and as a rule I would say most of Trainers/Jockeys are loath to say anything of note either in print or on camera to reading/watching punters apart from the same old predictable sound bitesz we've all heard a thousand times before.

I fully accept the fact racehorses aren't "machines" ,but some of the stunts that are pulled and the explanations given afterwards are laughable at best, as are some of the punishements meted out by the Authorities.
By:
throwthetellyoutawindow
When: 05 Jun 13 22:48
Racingstar reports " nothing new happened" .......oh that's alright then we can all relax in the knowledge that the racing game is gash.

I hope he's not right when he says with some authority "the bleaters will continue to bet" as if we're all lemmings heading inexorably to the cliff edge..

Well Racingstar i've news for u this is one bleater who is betting less and less on Horse Racing cos i've seen the light, and have more belief in my fellow man than you.

Forget about fobts but i would guess year on year Horse Racing is playing less of a part in the revenues of the major bookmaking companies and in return these companies will be more and more careful about the monies they put back into Horse Racing.

Horse Racing authorities need to clean up their act and become a leaner,fitter and less rancid entity if it's going to prosper in the years ahead and not go the way of the dinosaur!
By:
Captain Christy
When: 05 Jun 13 22:58
Plenty of what is happening is tantamount to criminality and it seems that the racing authorities have simply given up trying to police it.
By:
throwthetellyoutawindow
When: 05 Jun 13 23:05
Well the racing authorities need to waken up Captain cos i look around a lot of the forums and read of plenty that have given up on British racing and look at the bookies these days too many of them and empty most of the time except for FOBT addicts.
Times are a changing.
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 05 Jun 13 23:29
the authorities need to give proper bans. this is the issue. coastal passages jock was found not to be trying. he gets 12 days. it should be 6 mths. same today with that clown on petrol. should be 6 mths.
By:
basilbrush
When: 05 Jun 13 23:31
Ive been punting my whole life, and Ive had a fair turnover on here for nearly a decade and have watched tens of thousands of races during that time. In regards the integrity of the racing these days and in recent years is that it has never been worse, that's a fact whether people have the stomach for it or not. I don't know why racing has become so blatantly corrupt, but I suspect stagnating or lowered prize money has a lot to do with it, along with the poor global economy.
By:
hello :-)
When: 05 Jun 13 23:39
grab what you can while you can , pretty soon £10 will start a gamble on here on racing
By:
throwthetellyoutawindow
When: 05 Jun 13 23:45
Bdj and basil there are a lot of unhappy forumites at the moment we need to see some more punitive measures put in place for the kind of race riding we've seen over the past couple of days and the media need to play a bigger part in this and make much more noise when this nonsense happens for the long term health of the sport imo.
By:
Swardean
When: 05 Jun 13 23:50
You could stop all this with a Tote Monopoly and getting ride of handicaps. 

But is that what we want?
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