Sira,
I offer Fillet Steak at 50P per lb (when I have not got any to sell).
Does this help?

Captain. Not being funny but I want to back a horse tomorrow. It is 9/1 and 8/1 with the bookies but I don't have an account. It is 6/1 on here.
No bookies shops taking bets on it I can go to. By tomorrow it will probably be 6/1 everywhere. I just want to take advantage of the bigger price on offer tonight. It is simply wrong for a bookie to offer odds but not be prepared to take a bet on it.

Why are you constantly bellyaching about this sort of thing, clearly you want to get 9/1 in the hope it is 6/1 tomorrow so you can lay off on here, crystal clear.

Oh stfu ye anal retentive **** . Don't presume to know someone you've never met


Boys and girls, can anyone spot the hypocrisy within this short answer?

Don't know why that only has 4 asterisks...

It said a r s e hole. Is that long enough now?

Good job they have that sort of thing for thick c*nt*s

is it possible for the online bookies to track the IP address of your PC/laptop? or the location that you're using the internet from? I've got a feeling that they can track this, and that's how betfair stop you setting up new accounts to avoid Premium Charge

Siralex, I'll repeat again just for you as to why they advertise 9/1 but won't take a bet, they have to appear to be a bookie, that's what their licence is issued for "bookmaking", they are hiding behind their licence in order to run FOBT's, would you run a shop as a bookies that requires more staff, can be a losing shop if people are savvy or even have half a brain when it comes to backing horses, or would you run it with four money making machines overseen by one member of staff behind the counter, have you ever read any bookies annual accounts reports, it's all there, long term financial goals, more shop openings, with savings in staff costs.

All you do is moan on here constantly, have you notified anyone about your concerns, that might be in a position to change the current situation, have you fcuk is my guess, you don't even gamble anymore by my definition, you pay people for information, then you place your bets based on this.

It has nothing to do with IP addresses, it's the computer that stores the cookie that provides the info not the IP address, technology has moved on from changing IP adresses. Getting around this to open as many accounts as you like is as simple as anything, think about it.

They don't want horseracing buisness anymore unless it's a losing mug, you're not going to change that by moaning on here day after day, so I'll repeat again, sort the FOBT problem out, then they will have to revert to taking bets again, if they want to survive, no FOBT's over here is the proof of that.

You will only pay PC if your account is already a PC paying account. They may suspect that your account is in effect your mates account and close you down, when they see the same IP address pop up.

A way around paying PC with non identifiable different accounts is already there.

Ram, incognito makes no difference.

they install flash cookies on ur pc. u have to get rid of them.

The issue of IP addresses is complete bollocks. Most IP servers have customers on proxy services, that's why they can offer cheap internet. Customers seldom get the same IP address when they go online.

If you seldom use Bookies and only when they are best price what do you expect? Captain Christy is right. If you bet with them daily, and place plenty of bets, you get on no problem. I have winning accounts, albeit not much, about 2k each, with 2 I use all the time and get on no problem. It`s good for their overall turnover, makes their books look good and as an earlier poster said, they expect to beat me long term given the number of bets I make.

Mightymac, it's not as simple as that, have you not heard of evercookies and bacontrout your "onion" suggestion is not as successful as you believe.

  evercookie is a javascript API available that produces
    extremely persistent cookies in a browser. Its goal
    is to identify a client even after they've removed standard
    cookies, Flash cookies (Local Shared Objects or LSOs), and
    others.

    evercookie accomplishes this by storing the cookie data in
    several types of storage mechanisms that are available on
    the local browser. Additionally, if evercookie has found the
    user has removed any of the types of cookies in question, it
    recreates them using each mechanism available.

Alternatively open a poker account with Betfair,Bet 365, Betfred, and any other High Street bookies skin on the Ipoker newtork, and try registering each of your accounts on the same table on the same laptop.

I reckon that in the not too distant future, arbitrage betting will be acceptable from most bookies cos more and more exchanges will appear and they'll be basically no need to use them.

I've tried arbing but it doesn't work for me. Spending about £100 to make a quid along with the paranoia doesn't seem worth it.

Here's one for you...

Something is 5 with the bookies and 5.2 with Betfair. If I back it with the bookies and lay it when the odds have dropped is this still classed as arbitrage betting???

evercookies!? and which bookies are using those exactly?!?! in any case they are only mildly harder to get rid of than normal cookies.

and how would the tor network not be successful in this case Gandalf??

Bacon, which bookies do you know that are not using every means available to gather data?

As for Tor, one of it's many failings.

Tor anonymizes the origin of your traffic, and it encrypts everything between you and the Tor network and everything inside the Tor network, but it can't encrypt your traffic between the Tor network and its final destination. If you are communicating sensitive information, you should use as much care as you would on the normal scary Internet — use HTTPS or other end-to-end encryption and authentication.

I know for a fact that the majority of bookies don't use evercookies, simply because I have checked.

your info about tor is correct, but again, how would that pose a difficulty for this scenario??

I have a good friend a retired professional(not gambling) who's had in excess of a dozen accounts closed & many more in his wifes name. He is the worst judge I've ever met but he trades to the maximum they'll have. That's why they feck you off boys not cos your all winners, would Tesco's allow you to hoover up  there special  offers knowing you've got a mug your going to double up on. I think not.

I have a good friend a retired professional(not gambling) who's had in excess of a dozen accounts closed & many more in his wifes name. He is the worst judge I've ever met but he trades to the maximum they'll have. That's why they feck you off boys not cos your all winners, would Tesco's allow you to hoover up  there special  offers knowing you've got a mug your going to double up on. I think not.

I have a good friend a retired professional(not gambling) who's had in excess of a dozen accounts closed & many more in his wifes name. He is the worst judge I've ever met but he trades to the maximum they'll have. That's why they feck you off boys not cos your all winners, would Tesco's allow you to hoover up  there special  offers knowing you've got a mug your going to double up on. I think not.