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I am constantly having accounts closed/restricted and am fast running out of mates to open accounts!!!! This week I have had 4 accounts closed down in one name which I'm hoping is just a massive coincidence, but I wondered if anyone can confirm that I am right in thinking bookies sharing information on accounts is illegal?
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 4 really, what type of horses were you looking to back, could you name just a few of em please. |
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How do you access the account when opened in your mates name.
Do you use his card to make deposits/withdrawls? Do you log into the account through your computer? |
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I'm running out of friends too, especially since I ran out of soap. As you are so successful, consider consulting a lawyer as to whether there has been a breach of the Data Protection Act, or even if it is worth making a complaint to the OFT. My guess is that directly sharing information would be illegal but that doing so via a third party would be OK but IANAL.
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Mind you, there might be some interesting legal questions thrown up around your control of other people's accounts.
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Driving at 31 mph in a 30 zone is illegal but 95% of drivers do it, chance of four closed accounts around the same being a coincidence are I would say pretty high.
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What type of bets do you make? Arbing? People who complain about this very rarely have regular bets.
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is no one going to say
"thinly veiled.... thread imo" ? |
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Mike, ask yourself whether the sky will be blue tomorrow, then ask yourself the question in your opening post, imo...
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Sadly looks like Mike will have to take the laughing out of his user name
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People who complain about this very rarely have regular bets.
not that rare in my experience |
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What type of bets do you make? Arbing? People who complain about this very rarely have regular bets.
People who come on to these threads to ask whether the people complaining are arbers are usually not very successful punters, imo... |
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^ ha ha ha in his opinion! Utterly worthless, negative, paranoid garbage ^
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Mike - ask yourself the following.
Forget the arbing rubbish, that's just a lazy excuse from people who don't know how to win at betting. I have lost over 50 accounts and have never arbed in my life. Korals, piddypower and badbrokes even limit me on sp bets. 1) do u beat sp 2) do u take the overnight prices 3) do u make a profit long term 4) do u follow tipsters If unanswered yes to 1 of these u r in trouble, if u answer yes to all 4 then the game is pretty much up. Lasting 2 weeks with a new account is about the max u will get before they shut u down even with different ip addresses. |
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ive had over 500 accounts iin the last 5 years...The last 18 months has been by far the worst for account closures. sometime closed for bets as low as £20/30 and others after only on bet
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are you jason bourne
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People who come on to these threads to ask whether the people complaining are arbers are usually not very successful punters, imo...
I've opened an account three weeks ago, so far £2K up, account still open, not arbing though, so I guess that will explain it. |
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the only consistent way is to hit the shops.
If you come across as having opened a Racing Post in your life you will be closed.. |
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To answer some questions.....
I arb, take advantage of EW in 16+ hcps, back EW with odds on chances, follow Pricewise as well as being reasonably profitable on greyhounds. Basically anyway where I have an edge I'll play. I have had accounts closed down with every bookie over the years and accept that as part of what I do because bookies only want mug punters, but having 4 closed so close together has me smelling a rat. |
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Captain, they may have it wrong, but if you can still bet they expect you to lose in the long run.
There's nothing else... |
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I do find it strange how these people never actually post up their 'winnings', please do so the next time or shut up.
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not rocket appliances,,if u win get banned... siralex is 100 o/o right in what he said..
But wish there reps and ads tell the truth out there  |
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why only 4 accounts closed ?? , have you been ill, or did you only open 4 ?? the games finished , high st shops or bookies accounts are for bingo or roulette playing , its pointless opening an account with old man vic, bet (im not an accountant im a bookie) fred, paddy (we hear you (NOT) power............ not to mention the tragic sign ladbrokes !
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4 this week......................wots it going to be like by Tuesday...........
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These days any bookmaker's computer will flag up accounts arbing and betting in filthy e/w races, so no need to share information. Or accounts that are simply profitable.
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OP is a follower of Pricewise, he states this on another thread, anyone backing his tips online appears to be closed down quicker than normal.
People still overlook cookies, there's no need for them to swap account information, they have it already through cookies. If you have a Betfair account, best if you can have it on a seperate computer. It's the easiest thing in the world to have as many accounts as you like in relatives/friends names without them knowing it's you that controls them, believe me! At the end of the day, in the UK (Ireland here), it comes down to FOBT's, they don't need traditional horse racing income anymore, a shop requires a minimum of 2 staff when taking over the counter bets, but only 1 to sit in the "change here" booth of what's now a mini casino, with no risk to them and a fixed/guaranteed return, whereas with racing the punter has a chance of winning. Yesterday I had 2000/600 on Magician in a Powers shop, no problem, last night when I returned home, I had an online 1200/1000 with Powers on Enobled, it was my first time in the shop by the way. They take bets here because we don't have FOBT's, how else will they make money. You will still be closed down if your a winner online with any bookie, in any country, but the point I'm making is, if you win in a shop here, you can always come back to the same shop or another one tomorrow, in the UK you know before you enter any High St. bookies, you're gonna be either refused or restricted to peanuts. I'll bet you a euro to a cent, the majority of people that complain regularly on here, about being closed, refused or restricted, have never written/emailed to their MP, Council or whatever regulatory body is responsible for, or can control the expansion of FOBT's or reduce their playable limits. Not saying you can't complain on here, of course you can it's your right, but follow it up to where it might just change things. The death yesterday of the Ladbrokes employee(RIP), may be unrelated to anything to do with what a lot of people have said so far on here, but I don't think many of us would bet against what we suspect to be the truth of what happened or made it possible to happen. Vent, complain or moan on here, it won't do any good, it may do some good if you spread your experiences where it matters, of the real story with UK High street bookies or more correctly referred to as mini casino operators hiding behind bookies licences. |
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I get loyalty bonuses from Bet365..Money in my account from betfair. Free bets from Ladbrokes, free entry tickets from RUK. matched bets from PP and Victor. Free diaries from SJ PP, and RUK...What am I doing wrong?
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What am I doing wrong
Backing winners would be my first guess. |
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i think it's wrong for people to resort to smelling rats when there account is closed
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Siralex has summed things up quite clearly.All bookmakers operate a " mugs only" policy.
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windsor boy aka fraudy has an account with fantasy island bookmakers,they never close his account
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artie.....................thats why theres no more Diaries.....................the punters left...............dont know wot day it is
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Captain, they may have it wrong, but if you can still bet they expect you to lose in the long run.
Of course the odds are against you in the long run, UNLESS you are taking the p1ss in which case they close your account having seen what you are doing. If you appear to play the game straight they will surely allow you to go on betting because they think they are going to get their money back, but where do they draw the line and say you are milking them? This is what I don't get, clearly the people who have accounts shut-down have obvious betting patterns which set alarm bells ringing. |
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If you appear to play the game straight they will surely allow you to go on betting
Err that would be a no.. |
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You are no longer laughing,Mike!
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If you really had the game by the balls and played straight as you appear to imply you wouldn't need to go to bookies, you could bet on here, no accounts shut down as far as I am aware.
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You made an assumption, and you're wrong. If by playing the game straight you mean losing, well that's not in my DNA.
You have to evolve as a gambler, the posts are moved and always have been by the high street. The differnce now is they just don't want or need the core product that used to be Racing.. So consequently any sign of a punter being smarter than a lemming, your account is demolished. I suppose that's playing fair, as you put it? |
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What I mean is using your skill and knowledge of the game to beat the odds, not looking to nick a point to lay back on here, clearly that is what you and the others are doing, DNA, fack me what a fool.
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Well i was trying to have a conversation with you, but as you now show yourself to be an utter raving neanderthal (a bit like your namesake) you can now just FRO... Me an arber
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Captain. Not being funny but I want to back a horse tomorrow. It is 9/1 and 8/1 with the bookies but I don't have an account. It is 6/1 on here.
No bookies shops taking bets on it I can go to. By tomorrow it will probably be 6/1 everywhere. I just want to take advantage of the bigger price on offer tonight. It is simply wrong for a bookie to offer odds but not be prepared to take a bet on it. |