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The programme was interesting and thought-provoking, especially the enhanced footage from the camera angles.
However, the language was a bit clunky in places (the Derby was not, "stopped in its tracks," and it would be more natural to say Davison "ducked" or "slipped herself" rather than "climbed" under the rail, to take two examples from the introduction. Balding is an English graduate and a professional journalist, so it is hardly unreasonable to expect more care to be taken with her words. More irritating was the hackneyed device of presenter on a journey of discovery from initial ignorance to final revelation, but the telly professionals think that is what we need. The experts Clare interviewed were informative but some non-experts were a waste of footage. The woman who suggested the return ticket might have been the only ticket on sale, for instance: find out; research; don't guess. The programme seemed slightly padded but also, paradoxically, rushed. The final conclusions -- that Davison was carefully positioned to pick out the King's horse, Anmer, to which she intended to attach a "Votes for Women" scarf, at a point on the course in full view of the newsreel cameras, but was crushed when the horse tried to jump her and fell -- were packed into the last few minutes because so much time had been wasted earlier. |
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Not a terrible programme by any stretch, slickly produced and mildly informative. But it was also another example of how acutely the celebrity virus has infected modern television production, where the topic under investigation often becomes subsumed by the ego of the person presenting it. In the old days presenters tried their best to meld into the background, they'd have made a show like this without having to show Clare Balding on screen at all, although that in fairness would have left about 20 minutes of screen time.
NOt sure whether i'd blame the programme makers entirely for that though, if you're going to tv executives with plans for expensive shows, unless you have a celebrity on board to drive it, i doubt they'd show any interest. That, for better or worse, is the world we live in nowadays. Seemed to me that Balding spent at least half the show presenting her own credentials and informing us of the incredible revelations about to unfold and, inevitably, it felt a bit short-changing and anti-climactic in the end |
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Good post, gent...
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I don't necessarily agree with Gent. I think Clare gave the whole programme some credibility. Similarly had they used any other top racing professional it would have been the same. However top female racing professionals are a bit thin on the ground. Plus being of a prominent horse racing background closely related to both the gentry and the Derby mean't it wasn't just some bland presenter handing out facts. It could have been done better but that side of it I completely agree with.
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I kid ye not, you lot are being brainwashed
![]() Just read on digi text today. Shops who sell magazines showing naked and semi naked images of women could face legal action, as requiring staff to handle them could amount to sexual discrimination or discrimination, so no more girly magazines. One day men will sincerely regret they ever gave women the vote. Balding, a feminist, definitely the enemy here. and she looks like an 'old boot' I cant see the attraction myself ![]() men are being far too 'fair and noble for their own good' just a personal opinion |
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and we have had women on Ch4 racing for years anyway
![]() could you actually Balding that |
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She's on again tonight.
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You and my ex would get on like a house on fire, ebulGery (literally)
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Fortunately i was unaware this programme was being aired on the television.
Therefore my ignorance regarding this debate as to whether Miss Balding enhanced, enlightened, assisted or butchered the essence of the programme is one of a non viewer. However due to the forceful, large scoping patronising manner of Miss Balding`s technique in front of the camera, perhaps my perception of what i would have observed as a viewer still holds much in common with an actual viewer. |
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top class presenter and a nice bit of tottie
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You and my ex would get on like a house on fire, ebulGery (literally)
probably guinness I have had enough troubles of my own in that direction I now stick to being a keyboard warrior on here..it is a darn site safer ![]() |
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Some women have no sense of humour, ebelGery.
I mean what's wrong with going for a pint and returning 4 days later with a big grin on my face? I even gave her a half eaten pack of fruit polos as well ![]() |
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Mine had a birthday last wk.................she said "Id like to go out for a meal"
I said "You talk to me as if im stopping yer" |
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guinness |
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and mange
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Done a fine job with a documentary on the BBC tonight.If you like we will give you back Tracey Piggot and give us Clare in return....
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Balding was captain of the debate team at her exlusive boarding school, and president of the debate society of Cambridge, you dont become those things unless you have a domineering personalty?, must have killed her to have to work with Willie "brain of a rocking horse" Carson?
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Nothing Balding enjoys more than a bit of reminding us all of our places when it comes to the Royal Family.
Co-incidentally, her brother trains for the Queen, her uncle is a Lord, and her mother has 'the honourable' prefix at the beginning of her name... |
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familiarity breeds contempt and Ms Balding is far too familiar
makes me wanna vomit frankly the way she tells the audience how to think, there;s an agenda behind everything she says and does her and Danny Boyle rancid case of double standards tolerant of anything, any behaviour, any values... except those whose view is perpendicular to theirs then they will piss on you, crush you like an ant for the temerity of holding different views |
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@millhouse -- hard to make a documentary about the Queen's racehorses without mentioning the Royal Family.
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Just watched the Queen's Horses back. Enjoyed it more than the suffragette programme although anyone else have preferred to see the 1974 documentary instead? I doubt the presenter of that programme appeared on camera every few seconds.
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Otoh, I liked the suffragettes but not the Queen's Horses which struck me as being a generic horsey programme with random shots of HM inserted to justify the title.
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Ramruma, it's all the 'Her Majesty is so knowledgeable she would be running Coolmore if she wasn't so busy being the Queen' nonsense that makes me want to vomit.
We're obviously all used to Balding condescending to us all as if we had the mental age of 30 seconds, but patronising the Queen really takes some doing, imo... |
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indeed truly hideous
she's like one of those dreadful infant school teachers that talks to her grown up kids like they were her 5yo class |