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Kev The Man
12 May 13 09:21
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To my amazement after just a couple of good wins I've had bet365 and ladbrokes putting restrictions on my account. In Bet365's case its such an over the top reaction as on ch4 races they have restricted me to 50p bets. Unbelievable! Ladbrokes are allowing more reasonable stakes but have removed all bonuses.  I'd been interested to hear from anyone whose experienced similar issues and what measures they take to get around these issues e.g. if you close an account do they let you reopen and start again with a new slate?
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Report elisjohn • May 12, 2013 9:27 AM BST
I think youre the first to be restricted kev , unlucky
Report the dealer • May 12, 2013 9:29 AM BST
Laugh
Report the dealer • May 12, 2013 9:30 AM BST
time warp or fishing
Report mange • May 12, 2013 9:34 AM BST
I think that you can restrict how much a day that U can loose in a shop then youve just got to hope that theres not relief staff...........
Report REGIT • May 12, 2013 10:08 AM BST
ring them up and tell them your"THE MAN" and its impossible to get the amount you need to live on arbing with these restrictions.apart from billys the others now let me have what i want.WinkWinkWink
Report s.kenbo • May 12, 2013 10:15 AM BST
"Free money", "what a shoite ride that was" "sir tom" "my accounts been restricted"

Where would this forum be without these repetitive threads?
Report InAndOut • May 12, 2013 10:15 AM BST
Still trying to turnover 365 bonus, another 2,356,274 £0.02 max bets to go Crazy
Report Kev The Man • May 12, 2013 10:16 AM BST
LOL nice one Regit. I've rung them up and u only get to speak to their nice customer service fronting  people not the Traders that make the decision's. 365 passed my complaint on then decided to make no changes whilst  ladbrokes passed complaint in into a "black hole", but gr8 to hear your getting your bets on.
Report InAndOut • May 12, 2013 10:19 AM BST
wow defo fisherman Shocked
Report artie • May 12, 2013 2:09 PM BST
Kev.Are you new to betting ? ALL bookmakers operate a "mugs only" policy.Are you saying that 365 changed their mind about restrictions ? If so, that's an amazing achievement.
Report jollie • May 12, 2013 2:11 PM BST
welcome to the real worldd of bet £3.65


on Ray fookin Winstone can get more than a 10 spot on  ExcitedExcitedCrazyLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Kev The Man • May 13, 2013 7:26 PM BST
No artie bet365 (Or bet£3.65 as jollie calls themGrin) they didn't change their mind ! No I'm not new to betting just more focused now so my winning profile more in the spotlight I guess. Must have not gone down well that I successfully turned over my bonus when I joined. Call me naive but although I was aware they restricted accounts I though it was for really BIG players. I think ATR and Racing Post should "name and shame" those bookies who take it too far.
Report scaredmoney • May 13, 2013 7:29 PM BST
Kev The Man • May 13, 2013 7:26 PM BST
No artie bet365 (Or bet£3.65 as jollie calls themGrin) they didn't change their mind ! No I'm not new to betting just more focused now so my winning profile more in the spotlight I guess. Must have not gone down well that I successfully turned over my bonus when I joined. Call me naive but although I was aware they restricted accounts I though it was for really BIG players. I think ATR and Racing Post should "name and shame" those bookies who take it too far.


defo fishing LaughLaugh
Report tinkler • May 13, 2013 7:30 PM BST
Have you been betting multiple horses in the C4 races with 365 kev?
Report the dealer • May 13, 2013 7:30 PM BST
he'll be telling us next they restrict losing accounts as well LaughLaugh
Report sheppy123 • May 13, 2013 7:36 PM BST
I don't understand the mentality of traders. With the amount of competition out there (especially Betfair) you'd think the bookies would be fighting for your business. If they balance their books correctly it shouldn't make a difference who wins and loses.
Report Rider • May 13, 2013 7:44 PM BST
and if you read the RP you'd be very confused pullein telling us bookmakers get the odds right 999/1000 so why would they restrict anyone kev ?
Report ahorsewithnoname • May 14, 2013 9:17 AM BST
Bet365 adverts "keep backing those winners...and we'll keep giving you free bets"

I've no idea how they are allowed to get away with that statement.
Report homefortea • May 14, 2013 9:55 AM BST
"Nice" article in todays Bookmakers trade paper on page 13 about a punter suing a Paddy Power offshoot in Australia for money he would have won if he was not restricted...

Class Action anyone...

The publicity alone would knock 25% off "Bookmakers" share prices if it was done over here..
Report Roger De Bris • May 14, 2013 12:38 PM BST
Paddy Pooper restricted me to 9euro each way on a 7/1 shot the night before the race...
So I went to 5 of their shops and had e200 each way.
Do they actually think their ridiculous limits work???LaughLaughLaugh
Report millhouse • May 14, 2013 12:43 PM BST
Bet365 adverts "keep backing those winners...and we'll keep giving you free bets"

I've no idea how they are allowed to get away with that statement.



http://www.asa.org.uk/Consumers/How-to-complain.aspx , if anyone wants to spend some time giving these total frauds a problem...
Report duncan idaho • May 14, 2013 12:54 PM BST
e.g. if you close an account do they let you reopen and start again with a new slate?

Laugh


thinly veiled after-20-yrs-off-doing-my-sloblocks-i've-finally-fluked-a-few-winners thread
Report Kev The Man • May 14, 2013 1:43 PM BST
Thanks Millhouse for that positive contribution to the thread. I agree its important that punters aren't passive and let the bookies have it all their own way. Also excellent point made by horsewithnoname below about the slogans they use but don't back up.
Report Sportsadvisor • May 14, 2013 1:51 PM BST
all you wingers on here, seem to forget if you can't get it on here- where you are constrained by appalling liquidity levels, its only then that you turn to bookmakers. and then very often for when we are out of line with the exchange. ie 9/2 when it's 4 on here and you expect to get a nice free arb off our backs.

i do agree Hills and such have become rather pathetic about many bets they should not restrict, of course i agree there. But moist of the whining on here isn't from the genuine client- it's the traders bleating they can't make profits off the bookies back

i don't see one complaint on this thread about why you can't get what you want on Betfair. oh no

might i suggest an afternoon at the cinema?
Report loper • May 14, 2013 1:58 PM BST
Phuuck me.

Didn't take long for a morally corrupt bookies puppet to come on here and call as all arbers!

Phuucking disgrace.
Report Sportsadvisor • May 14, 2013 2:05 PM BST
lol - i wonder if you'd be that uncouth without the pseudonym? And I'm no puppet- thanks
Report loper • May 14, 2013 2:09 PM BST
If you want to know my name then you'll find me in an issue of your late magazine.
Report artie • May 14, 2013 3:04 PM BST
"I don't see one complaint on this thread about why you can't get what you want on Betfair".I invariably get what I want on BF , and I guess most people do.Betfair is the greatest thing since sliced bread !
Report duncan idaho • May 14, 2013 3:15 PM BST


Sportsadvisor
14 May 13 13:51

But moist of the whining on here isn't from the genuine client- it's the traders bleating they can't make profits off the bookies back




How do you work that out? That's just what you WANT to think.
Report Sportsadvisor • May 14, 2013 3:47 PM BST
well, Duncan, let me ask you a question - do you complain on here about 'getting on' with firms?

loper- great i shall look through any number of magazines and magic your name out of it! I know who you are because you can't spell f*"k apparently- so that should be easy
Report duncan idaho • May 14, 2013 4:21 PM BST
i may have done...i've been closed by several and restricted by others...not sure what your point is...i was asking how you know the people that are moaning are traders and not punters...i've been on here years and i wouldnt have a clue who the traders are...it's just convenient for you bookies to believe we're all traders and arbers rather than punters that are capable of taking money off you
Report millhouse • May 14, 2013 11:32 PM BST
Duncan, they don't believe it - they just want the media to believe it...
Report 11kv • May 14, 2013 11:42 PM BST
Betfair is an exchange ,why do you not bet on here and get on as much as you want on a daily basis ?
Report dukeofpuke • May 14, 2013 11:47 PM BST
i am limited on races at b365 and lads for some unknown reason as horses aint my thing. but on others sports it can be to win £100 mainly live football.another book well known have put me on max stake from a previous minimum stake cant work out why but who cares
Report millhouse • May 14, 2013 11:55 PM BST
11kv, the prices aren't available on here early on, and near the off when the liquidity is there, all the value has gone and you are betting into a near perfect market.

The parasite traders don't help, as even if you try to put in a bet on here at the same price as the bookmakers, they just see your bet, jump in front, creating an arb, and this shortens the bookmaker price, and in turn shortens the price on here. This often creates an industry price collapse (many 'gambles' are caused solely by someone wanting to have a decent bet on Betfair, imo)

So, apart from the big meetings, it's the bookmakers or nothing...
Report patrick starr • May 15, 2013 12:21 AM BST
just when the thread couldnt get any worse duke leches up and complains he cant get his arbs on,ffs.
Report northanlite • May 15, 2013 1:27 AM BST
Sportsadvisor 14 May 13 13:51 Joined: 30 Oct 04 | Topic/replies: 487 | Blogger: Sportsadvisor's blog
all you wingers on here, seem to forget if you can't get it on here- where you are constrained by appalling liquidity levels, its only then that you turn to bookmakers. and then very often for when we are out of line with the exchange. ie 9/2 when it's 4 on here and you expect to get a nice free arb off our backs

jezuz wept the bookies paranoia with arbing is just ludicrous. "a nice free arb?????"
besides you wouldn't lay enough at the price to make it worth while.
Report themightymac • May 15, 2013 4:01 AM BST
I bet approx. 30K with 365 over a 3 month period and they never restricted my bets. During the same period I returned 31K, so I`m 1K in front. I suppose my figures are good for overall turnover and it has only cost them 1K. Started with a deposit of £50. They only restrict bets if you only bet with them when they are best price and withdraw winnings and run.
Report artie • May 15, 2013 4:09 AM BST
Millhouse - "and near the off when the liquidity is there all the value has gone and you are betting into a near perfect market." NONSENSE.Absolute nonsense.Plenty of value to be had before the off.Someone needs to teach you how to bet.
Report BJT • May 15, 2013 4:24 AM BST

May 14, 2013 -- 1:51PM, Sportsadvisor wrote:


all you wingers on here, seem to forget if you can't get it on here- where you are constrained by appalling liquidity levels, its only then that you turn to bookmakers. and then very often for when we are out of line with the exchange. ie 9/2 when it's 4 on here and you expect to get a nice free arb off our backs.i do agree Hills and such have become rather pathetic about many bets they should not restrict, of course i agree there. But moist of the whining on here isn't from the genuine client- it's the traders bleating they can't make profits off the bookies backi don't see one complaint on this thread about why you can't get what you want on Betfair. oh nomight i suggest an afternoon at the cinema?


The life long question, of why you have something at 9/2 when it is 4 on here still remains.

If it is 4 on here and you are offering 4.50, it makes perfect sense to bet with you.  You are advertising a price, wanting people to back at that price, and then closing down people that do bet at that price.

The day somebody with an IQ over 80 decides to become a bookie, the better for all of us.

Report Nightfly • May 15, 2013 7:23 AM BST
Have had my account virtually stopped...few pricewise winners,,,taking their top prices and bagging a few decent winners.
tell you what they dont like it...there only open for mugs no one else.
Report notoriousp.i.g. • May 15, 2013 8:03 AM BST
boylesport will only let me bet at sp...  suspect i had a few wins on hugh Taylor tips  but mostly bet at about 32 on a 16/1 shot...even the phone operator thought it was mad i was blocked on such small stakes
Report bilbobaggins • May 15, 2013 9:08 AM BST
Well said artie - and surely a winner's a winner. There is plenty of liquidity before and during a race. Bet in-play , you'll get some fantastic prices, most times many times better than anywhere else. And if you wait long enough your 'winner' will get to 1000/1! Can't get better value.
Report DancingDenman • May 15, 2013 9:23 AM BST
Birchy can get 100s on with bet 3 6 5 according to his column & hes never had a losing month in his life.
Report millhouse • May 15, 2013 11:40 AM BST
I bet approx. 30K with 365 over a 3 month period and they never restricted my bets. During the same period I returned 31K, so I`m 1K in front. I suppose my figures are good for overall turnover and it has only cost them 1K. Started with a deposit of £50. They only restrict bets if you only bet with them when they are best price and withdraw winnings and run.


The Mighty Mac, rightly or wrongly, they think you are going to lose eventually.

They restrict bets if they think you are going to beat them in the long run - nothing else...
Report dukeofpuke • May 15, 2013 12:36 PM BST

May 15, 2013 -- 12:21AM, patrick starr wrote:

just when the thread couldnt get any worse duke leches up and complains he cant get his arbs on,ffs.


you have obviously not read what i posted.i am not complaining about not getting my bets on to arb back on here.I STATED A FACT THAT A WELL KNOWN BOOK HAD ME ON MINIMUM STAKES BUT THAT HAS NOW BEEN LIFTED AND I AM NOW ON MAXIMUM STAKES hope that is CLEAR

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