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miprixabloater
08 May 13 11:53
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I am in a bit of a quandary, I have been renting a flat on

behalf of my daughters who are students in London, the

landlord has proved a right git not doing repairs and things

like that.  The tenancy ends in june and there is one more

months rent due to him which I do not want to pay and would

much prefer the landlord to keep the deposit he is holding

in lieu of me paying the final months rent as I feel would

have a struggle to get the deposit back.  My question is

this what could he do in the short term which would affect

my girls.
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Report hippie May 8, 2013 12:16 PM BST
He could evict them for not paying the rent and most likely saddle you with his court costs.

It's a very litigious town (county court slap in the middle). Pay him his months rent and tackle the deposit problem if it arises.
Report miprixabloater May 8, 2013 12:19 PM BST
hippie, would he have the time to evict them? The last months rent is due on the

28th of May and the girls will be leaving his place on the 2nd weekend of june.
Report pedrobob May 8, 2013 12:22 PM BST
if not already done so, get your requests for repairs etc in writing / email or documented somehow
Photos (with dates attached or imprinted on the images, data files) of all damage, wear and tear and lack of maintenance will come in useful later if ever have to resort to legal recompense
Report hippie May 8, 2013 12:23 PM BST
Probably not but you would most likely lose your deposit and leave yourself open for a court case.

It's a nasty little town where the freemason handshake goes a long way.

my advice is bite the bullet.
Report miprixabloater May 8, 2013 12:27 PM BST
pedrobob, the guy is an Iranian a real Rsole and I just feel that I would have

to spit blood to get anything back from him.  I have copies of emails and the

like to which he has not replied, it took him 6 months to change a broken shower head.
Report miprixabloater May 8, 2013 12:29 PM BST
hippie, how could I legally lose my deposit, the flat is in no worse condition now than it was

when my girls moved in.
Report mange May 8, 2013 12:30 PM BST
The deposit should be independantly held............check it out!
Report hippie May 8, 2013 12:32 PM BST
So pay the last month's rent and get the deposit back.

The law is on your side. Don't pay the rent and it's not.
Report Do wah Diddy May 8, 2013 12:34 PM BST
THESE PROBLEMS ARE SENT TO TEST YOU ,KEEP CALM AND DONT LET IT GET TO YOU,
Report Do wah Diddy May 8, 2013 12:34 PM BST
ITS HOW YOU HANDLE THE PROBLEM THAT MAKES YOU THE MAN THAT YOU ARE
Report mange May 8, 2013 12:35 PM BST
expert
Report miprixabloater May 8, 2013 12:37 PM BST
mange, he originally had a firm in the West End of London acting for him but they

eventually left him to manage it himself.  I was on the 1st of june going to ring

the git and tell him that because he had been such a woeful landlord he should keep

the deposit and my girls who by that time have finished their finals were leaving asap

and he could have his place back early, I was thinking that would placate the twot.
Report Do wah Diddy May 8, 2013 12:37 PM BST
NO IM IN THE STATE I AM ,BECAUSE HOW BADLY IVE COPED WITH PROBLEMS ,YOU MAKE SURE YOU HANDLE THEM PROPERLY
Report hatchet_harry May 8, 2013 12:39 PM BST
You are obliged to pay the rent as it falls due, the deposit is not in lieu of rent and failing to pay the final one could still see you in court or slapped with a CCJ ... is it worth that hassle for you / daughters. You have a rent book and receipt for your deposit I take it? Then you won't have an issue. If he refuses to return said deposit without good cause then YOU take him to court (small claims court, simple) Suggest they take pictures with date/time clearly indicated on them to show that it's in good condition when they leave in case he tries to mess the place up.

Good luck
Report Do wah Diddy May 8, 2013 12:41 PM BST
HATCHET HARRY KNOWS HE USED TO COLLECT RENT OFF BAD PAYING TENNENTS
Report miprixabloater May 8, 2013 12:41 PM BST
Guys, thanks for your advice, looks like I could be snookered.
Report mange May 8, 2013 12:41 PM BST
a large dog Wink
Report hippie May 8, 2013 12:43 PM BST
Bear in mind who's name is on the rent book because that would be the name who's credit rating would be jeopardised.
Report slayerofthe'kins May 8, 2013 12:48 PM BST
Personally I have failed to pay the last months rent once when I thought I wasn't going to get a deposit back and nothing happened. I also know other people who have done the same. You will likely get away with it with no problem. Even if legal action is taken I would expect it to take longer than a month. Be aware there is risk involved, but it is also quite a common thing to do.
Report Do wah Diddy May 8, 2013 12:49 PM BST
I THINK I SAW A CASE LIKE THIS ON JUDGE JUDY A FEW WEEKS AGO ,SHE TOLD THE STUDENT GIRLS THAT THEY SHOULDNT WEAR JEANS IN COURT ,AND TOLD THE LANDLORD TO BE MORE CHOOSY WHEN HE PICKED HIS TENNENTS
Report gosmash May 8, 2013 12:53 PM BST
1.01 the daughters have been rumping the landlord
Report Do wah Diddy May 8, 2013 12:54 PM BST
SHE ALSO TOLD THE FATHER OF THE TWO STUDENTS TO SIT DOWN ,AS SHE HAD NO TIME FOR GAMBLING FATHERS
Report crepello May 8, 2013 1:16 PM BST
gosmash - you really are a piece of work
Report GandalfTheGrey May 8, 2013 1:20 PM BST
Gosmash, very brave words when you can hide behind anonymity. Plonker.
Report miprixabloater May 8, 2013 1:20 PM BST
crepello, you are right, years ago I would have traced that piece of shyte and

he would have enjoyed himself.  I have mellowed with age.
Report shergar007 May 8, 2013 1:24 PM BST
Ask the experts for advice - Shelter are very good (go to their website)and sometimes the local authority.
Report gosmash May 8, 2013 1:27 PM BST
Lighten up boys ffs !  Dont like the sound of bloater tracking me down and "enjoying himself"

Anyway, where is the connection to horses pls ?
Report pedrobob May 8, 2013 1:27 PM BST
is it likely the landlord would bother coming after you for a months rent and incurring the related legal costs?

If you wrote to him and told him what you were doing before June, listing all the repairs that have not been done, all the failed maintenance of the property, surely the costs of all that will far exceed a months rent?

Would not a small claims court not just take your documented "counter-claim" into account and tell the landlord to b*gger off?
Report miprixabloater May 8, 2013 1:31 PM BST
pedrobob, I think you have hit the nail bang on the head, thanks.
Report GandalfTheGrey May 8, 2013 1:32 PM BST
Gosmash is a complete idiot, thick as two short planks. Have a look at this, posts under Gosmash, then goes to log in to back/praise himself up under a different username, but the thick, logs back in under Gosmash instead of his other username.

gosmash 08 Sep 12 19:41

Ive heard he is a nice fella, but the ladbrokes rep who does crayford if 6 grades higher

gosmash 08 Sep 12 22:19

gosmash  i think you mean Bloomers.  I agree, an excellent judge and a great fella to boot


JimmySommerville 10 Sep 12 14:49

Gosmash, talking to yourself under other names is never good! Take your nose out Blommers* arse ;)

hunglikeadonkey 10 Sep 12 17:42

Gosmash i expected better of you, always close the forum when you log out if logging back in to talk to yourself :D

casemoney 10 Sep 12 17:49

a lot of people talking to themselfs on here lately only an idiot would forget to log out properly

Case closed. A complete thicko. LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report chavman May 8, 2013 1:35 PM BST
what a tool
Report chavman May 8, 2013 1:36 PM BST
nice to see someone talk sense chav
Report GandalfTheGrey May 8, 2013 1:38 PM BST
Laugh
Report gosmash May 8, 2013 2:05 PM BST
Gandalf , thanks for your in depth research , but fyi it was done in humour, an "in joke" at the time.   And im not the person i was praising anyway !!
Report khyber kim May 8, 2013 2:09 PM BST
gosmash is about to leave town in a hurry.
Report GandalfTheGrey May 8, 2013 2:10 PM BST
You're welcome. To whom am I speaking please?
Report The Sawyer May 8, 2013 4:15 PM BST
miprix

Any landlord taking a deposit under a short-term agreement must hold it under a TDP - look up the www.gov.uk page on this. Your daughters, or whoever guarantees the rent, would have been advised who holds this. If he hasn't you have the right to approach the County Court.
Report motley01 May 8, 2013 4:17 PM BST
I could send round my mate, low blowGrin
Report SlippyBlue May 8, 2013 4:17 PM BST
It would take him up to 6 months to evict, in which time they can stay there rent free, nothing he could do about it.
Report motley01 May 8, 2013 4:19 PM BST
Would you really expose your daughter's to that, slippy?Shocked
Report SlippyBlue May 8, 2013 4:20 PM BST
I am part owner of a letting agency by the way. Not a chance in hell would he bother pursuing a piddling amount of money through the courts. He would just want vacant possession again as soon as possible.
Report miprixabloater May 8, 2013 4:39 PM BST
The Sawyer, the deposit he holds is the equivalent to a months rent and I am pretty

sure it has been registered I do not want to go through the hassle of getting it back

the hard way so on a suitable date I will ring him and say I have not got the rent keep the

deposit if he argues the toss I will tell him to do whatever he likes, my girls will

be gone by the 2nd week in June, the twot has had off me nearly £16000 anyway.
Report tomdeane May 8, 2013 7:29 PM BST
Haven't read the whole thread so this might have been covered, but I noticed a few people advised getting your girls to photo and date everything to show they left the place in good repair. This is great advice but what they MUST also do to cover themselves is have an independent party come round with them to verify the condition it's in.

My friends and I asked a neighbour to do this when we moved out of a place, expecting the landlord to be arsey about it, and gave her a box of chocolates for her troubles. She was on film with us going round the apartment, and confirmed the date for us too. Whether the landlord was going to be tricky or not we'll never know, but once he knew we had that evidence on our side we got our deposit back in full without a hitch.

I agree with the original reply though. Think your best bet is to pay the rent and then pursue the deposit. If your girls have done everything right they will get their deposit back, even if the guy tries to be difficult about it.
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