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paul22
02 May 13 08:38
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Just been matched at 1.85 for this horse and fully expect it to go off about 1.6. Ran a great race first time out at newcastle and the 3rd won well last weekend and the 4th came second to a haggas ( flying start ) newcomer. The second favourite met a fair bit of trouble in running but was well beat on her debut and was 16/1 so not exactly fancied on debut at ponte, that form has been let down by the run of hello beautiful who was stuffed by lexington rose, the horse who finished behind pheeny on its debut. The dalglish barn havent had a good start to the turf flat season and although theres a bit of money for o mearas that will dry up imo. Dont generally like tipping odds on pokes but i like this one a lot!
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Report Duvauchelle • May 2, 2013 9:40 AM BST
I like Lady Captain at the odds - Hampered, hampered, not clear run, green - at the odds ew. An eventful run for a 2yo should show plenty of improvement.
Report paul22 • May 2, 2013 9:46 AM BST
I know what your saying but unlucky horses imo are the way to the poor house, there often very underpriced. It will be a good each way bet with the books opening show if you can get it and if it stays at 8 so theres plenty worse bets out there. I just think that although it was unlucky last time and green, through the form ties with hello beautiful and lexington rose that has got so much to find with princess pheeny.Im gonna lay 2/3 my stake pre race, hopefully somewhere in the 1.6s and lay the other 1/3 in running at 1.3. Hope i win and lady captain comes second :)
Report Duvauchelle • May 2, 2013 9:51 AM BST
I think Duffield ran Hello Beautiful too soon at Ripon, and it was the green element and kept on, nearest finished that interested me more than the repeatedly hampered as I know what you mean about backing unlucky horses next time, but I do think a 2yo getting such a rough race and running green can show big improvement. Don't get me wrong Fav's race is solid though but can't back odds on, especially a second time out 2yo.
Report paul22 • May 2, 2013 9:56 AM BST
Fair points. Thats why im hoping to get 2/3 of my stake laid in the 1.6s so then ive got somewhere between evens and 11/10 for my money. thanks for replying, it seems hard to get a decent discussion on a race on this forum these days!
Report Duvauchelle • May 2, 2013 10:37 AM BST
sorry had to do something - yeah your right about the drivel on here, good luck, one of us may win, got to go.
Report Stevie Gerrard • May 2, 2013 11:04 AM BST
my one negative about the fav would be that she grabbed the stands rail after a furlong last time and that proved the place to be later on in the card. Because of that I would guess she was probably 4th best in that race. That might be good enough but I wouldn't be a backer personally
Report paul22 • May 2, 2013 11:23 AM BST
Thats a fair point steve
Report paul22 • May 2, 2013 12:19 PM BST
Laid of 2/3 at 1.64, can see this drifting out again before coming back on the opening show to around 1.66 bsp
Report stridingedge • May 2, 2013 12:25 PM BST
backed his winner early yesterday, said he is due some, he's about 18% in may with his 2yos.

this one has obvious claims but price looks nothing special at all.
Report paul22 • May 2, 2013 12:26 PM BST
Id say price is about right now, was too big earlier.
Report stridingedge • May 2, 2013 12:29 PM BST
just going through the pedigrees you may be right paul, perhaps it has very little to worry about here.

definitely expect a few fahey winners next fortnight, his flying clarets ran a stormer too yesterday at big odds.
Report paul22 • May 2, 2013 12:31 PM BST
Hamilton riding with a lot of confidence too
Report stridingedge • May 2, 2013 1:08 PM BST
just seen omeara has not had a 2yo debutant winner yet

dalgleish's looks  quite precocious on paper but its not a yard that screams fto winner, the sire is about 18% over 5f as a 2yo, going up to 23% on gf/firm.

ryans can come on a lot, plenty of his bt 10-15l on debut have won 2nd time out, sire about 10% over this trip as 2yo.

burkes never had a winner 2nd time out after being stuffed like that first run.

all in all struggled with the others to find much opposition.

gl paul
Report paul22 • May 2, 2013 1:14 PM BST
Cheers striding. Ill be looking to cover the rest of my stake at 1.3 and make it a winner either way at 1.2. Think its got all the hallmarks of going very short and if it is to be beat i think it will be by a horse that goes very big in running and runs on and clobbers it on the line!
Report stridingedge • May 2, 2013 1:17 PM BST
thought de sousa was an interesting booking for dalgleish

only ridden two 2yos for him and won with 1

perhaps he has got his one ready
Report stridingedge • May 2, 2013 1:18 PM BST
experience often counts early doors though

used to hate these races but really like them now, even just watching for future winners (hopefully!)
Report paul22 • May 2, 2013 1:20 PM BST
yeah i fully expect pheeny to lead
Report nellie1970 • May 2, 2013 1:30 PM BST
fav looks very hard to beat here.i thingk indamente will run well at a big price will have learned alot from debut
Report GODSEND • May 2, 2013 1:32 PM BST
gota a funny feeling this fav will get matched at 1000 gl
Report stridingedge • May 2, 2013 1:33 PM BST
you laying god Shocked

i'm just watching
Report GODSEND • May 2, 2013 1:33 PM BST
no backing
Report GODSEND • May 2, 2013 1:39 PM BST
Kirtling Belle: Hitgh SP for Kirtling Belle, but with exception of first favourit in this race Princess Pheeny, next two favourit at bookmark, Lady Captain who have one 6th place from 13 runner but finish at 18L behind winner and Innocently who so far is unraced, Kirting Belle have big chance for top three in this race, successful as juvenil, win at 5f before, jockey with very good experience today, S De Sousa.
Report GODSEND • May 2, 2013 1:41 PM BST
Kirtling Belle: Princess Pheeny could prove to be very hard to beat in the first at Redcar after a fine run on her racecourse debut when finishing a close up 2nd at Newcastle last month however the fly in the ointment could be the Keith Dalgleish trained newcomer Kirtling Belle.
Dalgleish should know where he stands with Princess Pheeny as his Robynelle finished just under 1 1/2L behind Fahey's filly in that Newcastle race.
Jockey S.De Sousa takes the mount and in his four previous rides for the Dalgleish stable De Sousa has produced 1 win & 2 places.
Report paul22 • May 2, 2013 1:42 PM BST
down to 7, the fixed odds layers breathe a sigh of relief
Report stridingedge • May 2, 2013 1:44 PM BST
yeah i said that looked the likeliest threat on paper

jockey booking interesting too
Report wallis • May 2, 2013 1:44 PM BST
the fixed odds layers more than likely had something to do with it..
Report paul22 • May 2, 2013 1:46 PM BST
Wouldnt surprise me
Report werwolves • May 2, 2013 1:53 PM BST
bit of money coming for innocently redcar 2yo trophy entry interesting
Report GODSEND • May 2, 2013 1:53 PM BST
hopefully fav can get gubbed
Report stridingedge • May 2, 2013 1:56 PM BST
yes werwolves amazed omeara has never had a 2yo fto winner! 0-30, 5 placed.
Report werwolves • May 2, 2013 1:57 PM BST
striding theres a first time for anything lol
Report GODSEND • May 2, 2013 1:58 PM BST
fav drifting...
Report stridingedge • May 2, 2013 1:58 PM BST
of course just surprised me
Report werwolves • May 2, 2013 2:00 PM BST
striding its a surprising stat wudve fancied a place if it werent for the nr
Report GODSEND • May 2, 2013 2:00 PM BST
damn evens...for fav
Report Tony Broke • May 2, 2013 2:00 PM BST
7/5 r f no danger!
Report GODSEND • May 2, 2013 2:02 PM BST
nic
Report GODSEND • May 2, 2013 2:02 PM BST
money was down....gamble lands
Report werwolves • May 2, 2013 2:02 PM BST
did that very well
Report Poppydog. • May 2, 2013 2:02 PM BST
Odd to have the only two debutants dominate an early 2yo race
Report stridingedge • May 2, 2013 2:02 PM BST
werwolves

1st time indeed

dalgliehs's unlucky though blew the start
Report GODSEND • May 2, 2013 2:03 PM BST
WOW DIDNT EVEN PLACE @1.12 LMAO STINKY FAV
Report paul22 • May 2, 2013 2:03 PM BST
Blimey. Guess the market spoke late cos that was a serious drift late on! hands up though not good enough.
Report nellie1970 • May 2, 2013 2:03 PM BST
idamente sneeks 3rdCool
Report werwolves • May 2, 2013 2:05 PM BST
striding yes kirtling belle cud be a gud thing next time out
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