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BUCKSTRUTHER
This should only involve three on recent form....
BUCKSTRUTHER, SACRED MOUNTAIN & SENOR ALCO.
There is no denying the Hunter Chase form of SACRED MOUNTAIN around its favourite track, which is the best form on offer here, but the ground today will be too quick for it imo, all its form has been with plenty of cut....but it does stay, has to give weight all round here.....
BUCKSTRUTHER
on the other hand will relish the ground,......its a good jumper & stays...... its P2P form is solid .
The form says its won its last 5 P2Ps… but it finished 2nd three runs back , beaten 1L by AMICELLI after a head to head battle on the final circuit… but AMICELLI weighed in 5LB light….( Everything was still intact when the horse finished) & was disqualified….. SEE YOU THERE promoted to 2nd.... its P2P form is solid !!
It ran in a Hunter at Musselburgh 2 runs back, a race which it won, looking to have too much to do against "The Wifes Pet" who was nearly a fence clear at one point, but stayed on dourly ........the trip was too short (20f) & the ground was soft ( given as good on the morning) ...nothing suited BUCKSTRUTHER that day but still managed to win.
Last time, it won a P2P over 3m beating Tommysteel ( won this Kelso race last year) & Moon Over Miami .....the time was quick & has ran mostly good times in all its Points.....has also won at Kelso & looks to have everything going for it here....
Jamie Hamilton who is only 18 takes the ride, he has rode it in its last 6 wins.
SENOR ALCO
Victor Thompson runs 4 in this, (won it with Tommysteel last year) & SENOR ALCO looks to be the best of his.
It has finished 2nd the last 5 times.....being beaten by OSCARINA twice, which at a glance looks good form, but SA is one paced & gets out paced......although the form figures read 5 2nds, it has been well beat & needs to improve to win this even though it gets the weight.
If it stays dry then BUCKSTRUTHER will be very hard to beat......has no negatives in this imo.
This should only involve three on recent form....
BUCKSTRUTHER, SACRED MOUNTAIN & SENOR ALCO.
There is no denying the Hunter Chase form of SACRED MOUNTAIN around its favourite track, which is the best form on offer here, but the ground today will be too quick for it imo, all its form has been with plenty of cut....but it does stay, has to give weight all round here.....
BUCKSTRUTHER
on the other hand will relish the ground,......its a good jumper & stays...... its P2P form is solid .
The form says its won its last 5 P2Ps… but it finished 2nd three runs back , beaten 1L by AMICELLI after a head to head battle on the final circuit… but AMICELLI weighed in 5LB light….( Everything was still intact when the horse finished) & was disqualified….. SEE YOU THERE promoted to 2nd.... its P2P form is solid !!
It ran in a Hunter at Musselburgh 2 runs back, a race which it won, looking to have too much to do against "The Wifes Pet" who was nearly a fence clear at one point, but stayed on dourly ........the trip was too short (20f) & the ground was soft ( given as good on the morning) ...nothing suited BUCKSTRUTHER that day but still managed to win.
Last time, it won a P2P over 3m beating Tommysteel ( won this Kelso race last year) & Moon Over Miami .....the time was quick & has ran mostly good times in all its Points.....has also won at Kelso & looks to have everything going for it here....
Jamie Hamilton who is only 18 takes the ride, he has rode it in its last 6 wins.
SENOR ALCO
Victor Thompson runs 4 in this, (won it with Tommysteel last year) & SENOR ALCO looks to be the best of his.
It has finished 2nd the last 5 times.....being beaten by OSCARINA twice, which at a glance looks good form, but SA is one paced & gets out paced......although the form figures read 5 2nds, it has been well beat & needs to improve to win this even though it gets the weight.
If it stays dry then BUCKSTRUTHER will be very hard to beat......has no negatives in this imo.
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koi, when I worked with Guesty 8 times out of ten when we put the readies down we drew, big prices as well.
No such thing as a value bet if it get`s well stuffed.
I`m not knocking you, merely stating facts. 3 shorties put up in Hunters the past week and all have been well beat and never ever looked like winning.
No one forces us to follow you and I`ve no complaints. Nobody twisted my arm. I know a guy who knows everything about horses but is a lousy tipster and can`t pick a winner.
Good luck but I`ll not be betting them again.
I`m not knocking you, merely stating facts. 3 shorties put up in Hunters the past week and all have been well beat and never ever looked like winning.
No one forces us to follow you and I`ve no complaints. Nobody twisted my arm. I know a guy who knows everything about horses but is a lousy tipster and can`t pick a winner.
Good luck but I`ll not be betting them again.
koi, I have no idea what you are on about, hit a nerve? what do you mean by that.?
No problem with that...just put up my views...but when they get beat they come out of the woodwork...
Differnt story last season when it went to around 13 winners in a row, similar the season before.......but then again, still get the knockers when they win....which begs the question, why do i bother.
Differnt story last season when it went to around 13 winners in a row, similar the season before.......but then again, still get the knockers when they win....which begs the question, why do i bother.
koi, I am not knocking your efforts just posting that you are not a good
judge, you only post what is obvious, Kohaku is a judge he finds horses that
nobody tips that run well, often win at big prices, no offence meant to you by the way.
judge, you only post what is obvious, Kohaku is a judge he finds horses that
nobody tips that run well, often win at big prices, no offence meant to you by the way.
The reason you bother is because when it goes right,you love the plaudits. When it doesnt and the non believers are out in force,you dont like it.
AS i said don't let them get to you koi ...keep on doing what you do best and the results will follow...
workrider I am surprised at you, I thought you would have known that overall it is
impossible to make it pay backing short priced hunter chase favs, bookmakers love
taking them on.
impossible to make it pay backing short priced hunter chase favs, bookmakers love
taking them on.
same goes for me, im not knocking you either, put my own views on the race up. goodluck next time
Punters are a fickle lot. I tipped 6 winners out of 7 one week in pub and got slagged off by a guy who bet the loser and none of the others. He doesn`t care about the 6 winners I gave, only the one he lost his cash on. That's the way it is. One is only as good as one`s last selection.
Like I say, I enjoy your postings and I`ve no complaints about betting them. I don`t think you could hack it as a tipster in a National though, you`re not thick skinned enough, which you have to be, take my word on that
Good luck.
Like I say, I enjoy your postings and I`ve no complaints about betting them. I don`t think you could hack it as a tipster in a National though, you`re not thick skinned enough, which you have to be, take my word on that
Good luck.
wee eck is spot on though. One needs to bet 6 out of 10 at them prices just to break even. I would assume, one of Guest`s winning out of 10 would put one in profit.
had early prices were 50s and 33s when we won the Yorkshire cup started around 7s.
koi -don"t let a few get to you i always look forward to your views and have made a few ££ backing them
wee eck 29 Apr 13 17:56
workrider I am surprised at you, I thought you would have known that overall it is
impossible to make it pay backing short priced hunter chase favs, bookmakers love
taking them on.
I am sorry but you are wrong there....£7000 profit to £100 level stake on hunters last year (6 months)...not all short priced favs though...
btw....have made a profit every year on hunters...
jimeen 29 Apr 13 17:52
The reason you bother is because when it goes right,you love the plaudits. When it doesnt and the non believers are out in force,you dont like it.
Again you are wrong...only trying to help out with a niche not many know much about......but can easily remedy that if thats what you think...
I will not post anything else on Hunters...
workrider I am surprised at you, I thought you would have known that overall it is
impossible to make it pay backing short priced hunter chase favs, bookmakers love
taking them on.
I am sorry but you are wrong there....£7000 profit to £100 level stake on hunters last year (6 months)...not all short priced favs though...
btw....have made a profit every year on hunters...
jimeen 29 Apr 13 17:52
The reason you bother is because when it goes right,you love the plaudits. When it doesnt and the non believers are out in force,you dont like it.
Again you are wrong...only trying to help out with a niche not many know much about......but can easily remedy that if thats what you think...
I will not post anything else on Hunters...
Great stuff wee eck, well done mate 
I could do with one of them just now, even at the 7`s
I could do with one of them just now, even at the 7`s
koi, accept criticism with the same grace as you accept plaudits, you will be happier. Good luck.
Koi. A big card coming up on Wednesday. You should be working on that rather than justifying yourself to people.
Wee eck , As i said , I don't often back in these races , I see the effort koikeeper makes , I also see people come on here and knock guys for the sake of it , i find that annoying , I am just pointing out that koikeeper takes the time and effort to go through these races and puts his findings up for all to see ..Its up to the individual whether they back them or not ...I hope you health is good WEE ECK..i ALWAYS THINK OF YOU WHEN THAT BEAUTIFUL SPOT ON THIS EARTH HAS A MEETING...
themightymac, we had some tackle to go to war with, around 80 decently handicapped useful animals,
a great two years or so including the National, happy days.
a great two years or so including the National, happy days.
workrider, health gone have an incurable Lung complaint but I will soldier on as always, good luck.
Evening wee eck, very sorry to hear of your health problems. Hope you can get a little better.
wee eck 29 Apr 13 18:08
koi, accept criticism with the same grace as you accept plaudits, you will be happier. Good luck.
dont mind the criticism for people that actually contribute something to the forum ..instead of those, yourself included that just like to have a go.
Not many on here actually put up reasoned posts on horse racing...but are quick enough to criticise.
If you read the write up....the form is there to see...wether they run to that form is another matter, Buckstruther stood out like a sore thumb when SM was a NR...
koi, accept criticism with the same grace as you accept plaudits, you will be happier. Good luck.
dont mind the criticism for people that actually contribute something to the forum ..instead of those, yourself included that just like to have a go.
Not many on here actually put up reasoned posts on horse racing...but are quick enough to criticise.
If you read the write up....the form is there to see...wether they run to that form is another matter, Buckstruther stood out like a sore thumb when SM was a NR...
Sorry to hear that Wee Eck , my own father lost a lung , but lived for years after , I wish you all the very best ,Hopefully we might meet up when i visit that part of the world again...
koi you have your view and that is ok by me, one question I would like answered,
do you consider yourself a decent judge of hunter chasers? I myself am not, freely admit it.
do you consider yourself a decent judge of hunter chasers? I myself am not, freely admit it.
To make a profit year in & year out on hunters I would say I was.
KOIKEEPER CHELTENHAM SELECTIONS WEDNESDAY EVENING
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AND THE FONTWELL MEETING ON THE 16TH
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AND IF IT EVER MOVES BACK TO FOLKESTONE
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AND THE FONTWELL MEETING ON THE 16TH
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AND IF IT EVER MOVES BACK TO FOLKESTONE
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As already stated,get studying for Wed.One last roundup eh.
Wee eck
you never know on a annonymous forum who you talking to .. i wish you all the best SID..
you never know on a annonymous forum who you talking to .. i wish you all the best SID..
mentalbird...just as I said....another that post nothing worth reading if anything at all..
Mental 13 views in ten years and then you come up with that. Were the first 13 as informative.
koi, in the 10 years or so that I have been here I have never ever posted oWT that has not been true.
Don`t make the mistake koi that we are all idiots because we don`t post our views. Why would we want to do that? Nothing to win by that at the risk of getting egg on one`s face. You obviously do it because you enjoy the plaudits when you pick a winner. If you are 7K up the past 6 months why worry about a little deserved criticism?
I'm certainly no expert in any type of racing least of all Hunter Chases and PTP's. Therefore, I welcome your previews koi and very much hope that you keep posting them. Of course you're not right all of the time but I've never met anybody who is. Your overall record in these races speaks for itself. I'm sorry to hear about your health problems wee eck and wish you all the best for the future.
themightymac 29 Apr 13 18:40
Don`t make the mistake koi that we are all idiots because we don`t post our views. Why would we want to do that? Nothing to win by that at the risk of getting egg on one`s face. You obviously do it because you enjoy the plaudits when you pick a winner. [b]If you are 7K up the past 6 months why worry about a little deserved criticism?[/b]
So you dont want to post anything up in case it goes wrong....
But you will happily jump on a thread when it goes wrong for someone else with the criticism....says it all really!
As I said that profit was last Hunter season.....no ifs...ita all on here in black & white...but then you would know that if you had read the posts...
Don`t make the mistake koi that we are all idiots because we don`t post our views. Why would we want to do that? Nothing to win by that at the risk of getting egg on one`s face. You obviously do it because you enjoy the plaudits when you pick a winner. [b]If you are 7K up the past 6 months why worry about a little deserved criticism?[/b]
So you dont want to post anything up in case it goes wrong....
But you will happily jump on a thread when it goes wrong for someone else with the criticism....says it all really!
As I said that profit was last Hunter season.....no ifs...ita all on here in black & white...but then you would know that if you had read the posts...
All I said was that I enjoy your posts but will not be following you again. Not exactly criticism, mere facts. If your selections had won, I would have been the first to post congratulating you. I can`t exactly say you`re brilliant having lost 3 x 200 bets on shorties that got well stuffed. I don`t doubt that you are in profit, not for one minute, but I would need to be an arab sheikh to be able to continue following you. You must keep records, so what`s the stats for your last 6 runners?
I don`t post my views because it tempts fate and I don`t need plaudits, simple as that.
I got paid for my opinion for over 20 years so it can`t be that bad.
I don`t post my views because it tempts fate and I don`t need plaudits, simple as that.
I got paid for my opinion for over 20 years so it can`t be that bad.
roo...if it was ego i would post on every hunter...that is another stupid comment...
Its a horse racing forum...I thought thats what it was for...must be my mistake.
One thing I do know is that I do not go on anyones thread when they put a loser up & criricise them...why would you do that?
Its a horse racing forum...I thought thats what it was for...must be my mistake.
One thing I do know is that I do not go on anyones thread when they put a loser up & criricise them...why would you do that?
I can`t exactly say you`re brilliant having lost 3 x 200 bets on shorties that got well stuffed
you must have missed these lately Lucette annie, Special Portrait, Lady Myfanwy....Palos Conti Fell, cant help that..
you must have missed these lately Lucette annie, Special Portrait, Lady Myfanwy....Palos Conti Fell, cant help that..
koi ,, dont fuss ,,, i always read your posts . i find them informative but of course i do make up my own mind after all its my cash .im sure others must do the same ,,, its a bit rich if people are saying the horses running poorly is down to your reading of form ... i know the stable thought todays horse would win ,,, it didnt ,,, the game moves on ,dont take things too personally ,
I got paid for my opinion for over 20 years so it can`t be that bad.
so why follow someone else?
so why follow someone else?
Eck.......or Sid,have you got a pal called Eddie Large,cos you are obviously a bit of a comedian,if you and themightymac had followed kois tips in Hunters over the last few years you would know he is well in profit,easily over 100pts and what is it about this place,a guy puts up a well reasoned selection and in this case it gets beat,is that not what a forum's for?
koi you keep repeating that you were 7000 pounds up over the hunters last season
and I do not disbelieve you, you also state that you wager in units ranging from
100-400 pounds, would it not be a good idea if you were to say when posting your
selection what your stake on that particular selection is going to be.
and I do not disbelieve you, you also state that you wager in units ranging from
100-400 pounds, would it not be a good idea if you were to say when posting your
selection what your stake on that particular selection is going to be.
The man puts his opinion up, doesn't lie, aftertime or mislead, states clearly if he's having a bet or not, shorties happen to win a lot of hunter chases, if he's winning does it matter if this is his choice of race to only back in.
If your bone of contention is that anyone can tip up shorties and you feel that's all he does and is doing it purely for attention, then stay away and don't give him the attention, win or lose.
If your bone of contention is that anyone can tip up shorties and you feel that's all he does and is doing it purely for attention, then stay away and don't give him the attention, win or lose.
koi you keep repeating that you were 7000 pounds up over the hunters last season
and I do not disbelieve you
Hard to when its all on here in black & white.....no lies here
and I do not disbelieve you
Hard to when its all on here in black & white.....no lies here
Big Guru - I don`t doubt he`s in profit and I don`t particularly care. I only care about the 3 I bet, which I don`t criticise him for if you read the posts. I merely state, I`ll be laying his selections from now on, rather than betting them. When you tip winners you get plaudits, when you tip losers you get slagged, that`s the nature of the game. I`m sure he`ll be a hero the next time he picks a winner, but he won`t come on here saying, "Guys, guys, cut out the plaudits. Fed up with you all jumping on the bandwagon with wonderful comments when I tip a winner"! He should ignore the flak and just shut us up by tipping a winner next time.
I enjoy his posts but won`t be betting them.
I enjoy his posts but won`t be betting them.
I`m sure he`ll be a hero the next time he picks a winner, but he won`t come on here saying, "Guys, guys, cut out the plaudits. Fed up with you all jumping on the bandwagon with wonderful comments when I tip a winner"
I actually dont say anything,,,,
I actually dont say anything,,,,
Koi dont get embroiled in all the b ollox
You put up long before the off with good reasoned comments
You dont need to defend your position,although debate is healthy
Agree with Gandalfs post
You put up long before the off with good reasoned comments
You dont need to defend your position,although debate is healthy
Agree with Gandalfs post
OK mac,but remember if you had laid kois selections over the last 3 years say, you would be well down - and,he's stll up this season,I look forward to him tipping plenty more winners(his tip won yesterday btw)
I got paid for my opinion for over 20 years so it can`t be that bad.
so why follow someone else?
Simple answer to that, like 90% of folk on here, I`m a compulsive gambler and bet on everything. At least I admit it and unlike most compulsive gamblers I show a profit each year. I don`t know anything about Hunters Chases so rather than guess, I thought it wiser to follow an expert who knows everything about them. No one forced me to bet them and I assert no blame. I`m sure you`ll come good again but I won`t be betting in them silly "farmers" races ever again.
so why follow someone else?
Simple answer to that, like 90% of folk on here, I`m a compulsive gambler and bet on everything. At least I admit it and unlike most compulsive gamblers I show a profit each year. I don`t know anything about Hunters Chases so rather than guess, I thought it wiser to follow an expert who knows everything about them. No one forced me to bet them and I assert no blame. I`m sure you`ll come good again but I won`t be betting in them silly "farmers" races ever again.
I`m sure he`ll be a hero the next time he picks a winner, but he won`t come on here saying, "Guys, guys, cut out the plaudits. Fed up with you all jumping on the bandwagon with wonderful comments when I tip a winner"
I actually dont say anything,,,,
That`s the point mate! You should learn to take criticism like water off a ducks back and ignore instead of keeping it going. I`m sure you know your stuff and I`ve just been on the wrong ones.
I actually dont say anything,,,,
That`s the point mate! You should learn to take criticism like water off a ducks back and ignore instead of keeping it going. I`m sure you know your stuff and I`ve just been on the wrong ones.
mightymac, if you think because 3 lost on the trot is the measure of a mans ability to pick winners or to be in profit in the long term, give the game up and go to a G.A. meeting, I don't think I've ever read Koi post that he was an "expert", to even use the word expert when talking about anyone or anything connected to the racing game, says more about you than anything else.
Thanks roo, I certainly was if I say so myself. 
Nobody could jump a fence like me.
Glad someone knows who I`m named after. Got into an argument with some idiot on American forum and he called me a "big fat b*******"
thinking my forum name was after some big roll on hamburger 
Nobody could jump a fence like me.Glad someone knows who I`m named after. Got into an argument with some idiot on American forum and he called me a "big fat b*******"
thinking my forum name was after some big roll on hamburger
You could have previewed, Buckstruther was all out to beat Tommysteele 2 lengths at Tranwell on 6 April, who in turn finished 42 lengths behind Special Portrait at Perth last week, when Digg Whitaker unseated at Sedgefield 2 out he was about 4 lengths behind Special Portrait and 6 lengths in front of Be There In Five, who has since won at Hornby Castle. When previosly 6th at Catterick Digg Whitaker finished one place in front of Duke Of Kenford since winner of 2 points.
So with the John Wade stable in fine form (baring the luckless fall of Blazing Bull yesterday) and rider having winners every weekend including at Easingwold yesterday, DIGG WHITAKER looks a fantastic EACH WAY bet.
This is a one and only performance, don't ask me to post my bets it would take all night.
So with the John Wade stable in fine form (baring the luckless fall of Blazing Bull yesterday) and rider having winners every weekend including at Easingwold yesterday, DIGG WHITAKER looks a fantastic EACH WAY bet.
This is a one and only performance, don't ask me to post my bets it would take all night.
Mental I presume you posted that somewhere before the race.
Wee eck the doddering ole coont would to well to pipe down a touch.
Your days are gone pops so turn it in.
( Well done for learning how to use a computer though pops, respect!)
Your days are gone pops so turn it in.
( Well done for learning how to use a computer though pops, respect!)
Gandalf, I never ever questioned koi`s abilty to win long term, read my posts, if he says he does then I believe him. All I said is that I won`t be betting them.
I thought everybody on here were "experts". Everybody wins on here, it`s a fact if you read the posts. All pros on here.
I thought everybody on here were "experts". Everybody wins on here, it`s a fact if you read the posts. All pros on here.
I did post it Arkle, about 20 times on different accounts £40 EW BOG.
bannahan, I was not a doddering old coont when I was doing my bit in H.M. Armed Forces was I.
mentalbird, that was a great in depth analysis. I would definitely have backed it e/w if you had posted it, but I don`t blame you for keeping it to yourself. You won the dosh and that is all that matters. Well done.
mentalbird, up to today, had 12 posts, then today gets Tourettes and runs amok using 5 posts to aftertime a winner and have have a pop at Koi who beforetimed his opinion.
Bannahan leave wee eck alone ya muppet.
Bannahan leave wee eck alone ya muppet.
Mental I would genuinely be delighted if you did clean up on the race but it sounds a bit like what Zodiac would write. Anyway Koi you are wasting good time on here now when you should be studying for Wednesday.
Cant study for chelt...have you seen the cards lol, a fair few declared but all will not run,
that's exactly why I cant do as much study in advance. too many runners still left in.
so koi simply relax and enjoy the build up ... we will as always look forward to yr words ,,, if we agree or disagree thats ok ...i know from my posting on yr threads you are prepared to listen to other views ,, i cant really see any issues for y to worry abt .
no issues for me, if they get beat they get beat.....but confident in my own ability
Always enjoy reading ANALYSIS of races, that is what the forum is for. Koi always gives reasoned analysis for his selections and the other principle in the race. I don;t always share his opinion but everyone ultimately needs to make their own mind up.
I guess that your style of thinking gives greatest weighting to current form and hence that is why your picks are almost always at the forefront of the market. When favourites lose there tends to be greater backlash from the masses and people are looking for someone to blame.
I guess that your style of thinking gives greatest weighting to current form and hence that is why your picks are almost always at the forefront of the market. When favourites lose there tends to be greater backlash from the masses and people are looking for someone to blame.
Why has it come to this seething and disrespect on here?
FFS happens every time I leave for a short time,how can we defend the forum from the likes of the RP if you attack the likes of Koi?
Koi offers up an opinion on a horseracing forum and gets attacked by trolls -some of em old age pensioners who should know better ffs-
This is England.....as they say in 2013 -great innit
This is England.....as they say in 2013 -great innit
GT.... No need to play play school teacher.
All adults here imo
All adults here imo
All adults here...... you sure Bannahan
These forums will all make us look back in years ahead to wtf we were thinking when we posted some of the bollux we did -and im not exempt from that lol -what i notice from Kois threads is that generally his detractors offer nothing up against his thoughts before the race but are keen to kick him in the gonads when he "gets them wrong" in their eyes AFTER THE EVENT -Either have a debate at the time otherwise anything said after the event is pointless imho
These forums will all make us look back in years ahead to wtf we were thinking when we posted some of the bollux we did -and im not exempt from that lol -what i notice from Kois threads is that generally his detractors offer nothing up against his thoughts before the race but are keen to kick him in the gonads when he "gets them wrong" in their eyes AFTER THE EVENT -Either have a debate at the time otherwise anything said after the event is pointless imho
Succinct Shearer,I wonder if his detractors lay his advices?
All skint if so imvho.
All skint if so imvho.
its true though GT -Just look at this very thread -nothing offered up against the lad until the horse got beat -i know him quite well from elsewhere and i can honestly say hands on heart that im miles in front following him-could i pick some of his selections?-of course i could -but could i put the time and effort into sticking the write ups up? -simple answer is no -hes ahead year after year and yet still gets stick -its all there in black and white on his threads but ..... well you know the rest lol
Pricewise followers or Claude Duvet fans no doubt shearer,if they had a brain cell between them they would be dangerous.
now i know you aint heard the words before kemo sabe..... but if you wanna party.....
oooooooosssssshhhhhh cos it sums up this thread perfectly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbH244wi22k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbH244wi22k
well said shearer 
he seems to attract the trolls and for what, sticking up an opinion of a race, it seems only a hundred percent record would do on here. like you say shearer the trolls are all experts after the game.
he seems to attract the trolls and for what, sticking up an opinion of a race, it seems only a hundred percent record would do on here. like you say shearer the trolls are all experts after the game.
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