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Clarky9
26 Apr 13 17:50
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Carnage....
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Report kevin7654 April 26, 2013 5:53 PM BST
Whats the point of having a Stewards Enquiry market if they are so incompetent that its not opened?
Report alun2005 April 26, 2013 5:55 PM BST
Oh thank you beautiful Stuarts
Report Wesdag April 26, 2013 5:55 PM BST
Must have been some photo carnage there as well as the odds never even suggested a possible stewards.
Report TRD.Racing April 26, 2013 5:56 PM BST
That is a disgraceful decision. See worse than that every day of the week
Report FELTFAIR April 26, 2013 5:56 PM BST
Not involved but seen much much worse.
Report shady69 April 26, 2013 5:56 PM BST
whats the amended tar ?
Report Wesdag April 26, 2013 5:56 PM BST
Yes a very unlikely decision there that's for sure.
Report Poppydog. April 26, 2013 5:57 PM BST
I had a quick look for a Stewards market, without luck.

Was there one by Betfair?
Report onlooker April 26, 2013 5:57 PM BST
Yes - Main Market settled 'in a FLASH'

'STEWARDS INQUIRY' MARKET Never Opened.

Still - there's always ARCADE and CASINO Games to play on .....

as an alternative.Cry
Report Kriskin April 26, 2013 5:57 PM BST
Wesdag - there was NO photo betting.  Betfair NEVER opened up the market for the photo
Report shady69 April 26, 2013 5:57 PM BST
just got it .... very surprised
Report TCat April 26, 2013 5:59 PM BST
"connections hard done by" and cost me fifty quid. Still,only minor compared with the two other disasters today.
Report Wesdag April 26, 2013 6:00 PM BST
I'm quite sure there was Kriskin, I was about to pull the trigger when the market suspended Crazy

Saved me a few quid.

The 1st past the post was trading around 1.01 and the 2nd over 100 for a while.
Report Sheikh Handsman Al Mac's Tomb April 26, 2013 6:00 PM BST
Why can't they just leave all markets open 'til the weighed in. If you've got an empty account then tough.


Ridiculous amendment by the way.
Report spyker April 26, 2013 6:00 PM BST
appalling decision - unless of course that is now the standard and every time similar 'interference' takes place it will be amended?
Report onlooker April 26, 2013 6:00 PM BST
THERE WAS PHOTO Betting - and for a good minute.

Molon traded at around 1.04 - Upton 33/1
Report john92 April 26, 2013 6:04 PM BST
I backed Upton Wood ir at 60. Passing the line I was winning over 400 quid on that, and around 80 quid on the first past the post.

Decided to take the extra fiver on offer in the photo betting which is obviously a painful mistake now.
Report everton-fc April 26, 2013 6:05 PM BST
molon went .01 in the photo

2013-04-26
17:57

26707897701

2013-04-26
17:28

GB Chep 26th Apr / 17:20 2m4f Hcap Hrd / Molon Labe
Lay



1.01

200.00

Won



200.00
Report everton-fc April 26, 2013 6:05 PM BST
*1.01
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 6:07 PM BST
well i got paid on the winner and not had my funds deducted the result was a fair one and the best horse won  . stewards whom reversed it are incompetent to say the least ive had horses that have been drifted upon many many times more than that and can think of one such occurence of late though the name escapes me at mo .in no way was that a reversal and those idiots if thats what they are or biased should have themselves reviewed at the bha
Report Wesdag April 26, 2013 6:08 PM BST
gpz, if you've been paid by BF then the market will be re-settled.
Report Sheikh Handsman Al Mac's Tomb April 26, 2013 6:12 PM BST
I feel for you gpz and others, you have lost a winner and worse still it will be changed back at appeal. There's been horses knocked sideways and carried the full width across the track beaten a nose who didn't get it , ridiculous decision.
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 6:14 PM BST
f ing disgrace as bf deduct my account those stewards are incompetent at best.  bent most probably and ive been ripped off and want my f ing money !
Report Wesdag April 26, 2013 6:16 PM BST
gpz, and so will the person who matched your bet.

Very unlucky there mate.
Report TiptheOdds April 26, 2013 6:16 PM BST
for once I would like to thank the stewards for a wonderful decision.
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby April 26, 2013 6:19 PM BST
There's been horses knocked sideways and carried the full width across the track beaten a nose who didn't get it


Carson was on one that did this at Wolves. Whip in wrong hand as well.2nd nearly put through the rail. No change
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 6:20 PM BST
you know what thats not ok its a completely ridic decision and in a stewards room of top stewards would never have been reversed the incompetent stewards that have just ruled there should be up in front of the bha and banished from judging races are they are simply incompetent. i know i speak through my wallet but its plain to see to allk thats its fact not a biased opinion
Report onlooker April 26, 2013 6:22 PM BST
^ There WAS a BUMP - on the 'head-on'.

It is NOT just based on Molon drifting across.
Report elise April 26, 2013 6:23 PM BST
good job betfair introduced first past the post last week or i'd be a skint, phew
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 6:28 PM BST
elise look again as i was credited and now ive had my funds renaiged as will you have . those stewards really need to be dissolved from racing
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 6:29 PM BST
one more thing ive not heard one supporter of the "winner" or anyone else saying that result should be reversed . abosolute idiots
Report carrot1960 April 26, 2013 6:33 PM BST
just watched the replay , did not see the head on view but the decision to reverse the placings looked a joke
Report daza40 April 26, 2013 6:33 PM BST
don't matter betfair should not credit the account then take it back
Report AHPS April 26, 2013 6:34 PM BST
i had £1700 added to my account and now just looked reversed out of my account,betfair settled and now take away shame on betfair, if they settle a bet then that should be down to them shocking.
Report carrot1960 April 26, 2013 6:34 PM BST
will they throw out connectivity out as well noe ,seeing as he gave the runner up a bigger bump just aftyer the last
Report daza40 April 26, 2013 6:36 PM BST
they done it to me ,terrible act off betfair,thats it now no more bets off me till ive calmed down,prob wont bother again might go to purple
Report AHPS April 26, 2013 6:38 PM BST
and now they wont answer the phone, because i was going to stick one into them
Report daza40 April 26, 2013 6:41 PM BST
that's me done funds withdrawn,they will lose more than that in commission off me over the next week,bad decision betfair
Report ZEALOT April 26, 2013 6:44 PM BST
I always remember loyalty winning after an objection -- won me 600 Love
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 6:50 PM BST
i dont think anyone thats neutral would diasgree that the reversal is a wholly  awful decision.betfair should freeze the funds of the bet and let this go to some people in authority who can readjudicate and come to a sane decision . and if the higher power say it should be reversed ill accept that but we all know that it wont be the case so freeze the funds betfair
Report MrHunt April 26, 2013 6:53 PM BST
no good slating betfair..they pay on official result..stewards are the ones who changed the result
Report elise April 26, 2013 6:58 PM BST
some people in authority

that was the stewards

if the 2nds connections appeal and win it still won't help, they will pay on the weighed in result
Report AHPS April 26, 2013 7:03 PM BST
why not blame betfair, they settled all bets, they should honour it
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 7:03 PM BST
i know it wont help .But u know what it should help . when the stewards have plainly got it wrong it should go to abbitration and the bets should be froze
Report Wesdag April 26, 2013 7:11 PM BST
"This market will initially be settled on a First Past the Post basis. However we will re-settle all bets should the official result at the time of the "weigh-in" announcement differ from any initial settlement."

hth
Report MrHunt April 26, 2013 7:12 PM BST
they settle the bets provisionally so accounts arnt tied up...everyone knows the rules
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 7:27 PM BST
is there a man alive bar the moronic stewards that think they made the right decision ? i remember backing a horse called jardines lookout many moons ago and for me he did very little wrong and had the race taken off him . This horse the same , and there was also a horse i backed on the all weather this winter that got leaned on from midtrack and went down a head on the rail and that wasnt reversed in a flat race where marginal differences count for soo much more . well all i can say is that its been a complete rip off and those that made the decision can go to bed knowing theyre complete reprehensible egyts !
Report mr-right April 26, 2013 7:29 PM BST
those stewards are incompetent at best.  bent most probably



Ah, the light.
Report elise April 26, 2013 7:35 PM BST
can understand your frustration, but sadly you have to move on, there won't be any changes no matter what happens from now on

obv there are going to be some seriously happy backers of the 2nd who in some cases might not even know they have won, the next time they log in they are in for a decent surprise
Report onlooker April 26, 2013 7:45 PM BST
gpz6316     26 Apr 13 18:50

i dont think anyone thats neutral would diasgree that the reversal is a wholly  awful decision.betfair should freeze the funds of the bet and let this go to some people in authority who can readjudicate and come to a sane decision . and if the higher power say it should be reversed ill accept that but we all know that it wont be the case so freeze the funds betfair
--------------

Sadly - You do not appear to understand this game.

If it is any solace ....

I am STILL waiting for my £1100 WINNINGS from MR CONFUSION in the 1992 John Smith's Magnet Cup at York.

Mr Confusion DID get the race RE-AWARDED to him the following Friday - at a Jockey Club appeal.

I did NOT get my £1100, thoughCry - and worse still ...

Ladblokes have STILL hot my £100 STAKE, too!
Sad
Report jollie April 26, 2013 7:49 PM BST
a disgraceful decision , cost me £100 , which is small beans compared with above , but come on , see worse than that on the flat 7 days a week , not even a mention of a stewards
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 7:54 PM BST
one last thing before i depart for mr hunt . if muhhammed ali boxes the pants off george foreman for 15 rounds and then people of ill mind, corrupt ,or compliant award the fight to george foreman . should that be the result ? really should it ? or should people of senior authority review the matter and come up with a just and fair decision ? in your world george foreman wins the fight .for the majority this is clearly a case of wrong doing or gross  incompetence which requires an ammendment . the race wont be ammended until a later date , upon which the original winner will be awarded the race and those that backed the horse that finished second will keep their winnings ! this is completely wrong and if you go on saying thats how it is. well your an idiot because things can change, and can it doesnt necessarily need to be the way it is. its not right , its a fault that needs amending and the betting industry should be taking such instances on board and looking to amend procedures !
Report homefortea April 26, 2013 8:13 PM BST
Not watched the race as horse racing bores me to death probably due to the fact that anyone who can break even cannot get a bet on.However if the Stewards have knocked out the winner it must have been a no-brainer as day after day horses keep races in this Country that would have been given the Spanish Archer everywhere else bar Eire.Why do you think that "double result" is the norm with the alleged "Bookmakers" as BIG MAC (is he dead yet) says THEY KNOW....
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 8:19 PM BST
ive lost 200 x  more on a single . i only had a piddly bet on im just f ing cheesed to death as its a complete rip and it should be looked at as whats gone on is not right
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 8:28 PM BST
everybody reading the thread are  all saying to themselves allright getover it and i have, but what happens next time when you may have a big bet on and they do it again ? all im getting at is the procedure is wrong and needs looking at . /ie if connections of the horse that won the race differ soo vastly to the stewards and dont accept there viewpointy  then bets on the race should be frozen .let the bha/jocvkey club review it and give a verdict that everyone has to accept rather than three or four numptees word being gospel
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 8:29 PM BST
everybody reading the thread are  all saying to themselves allright getover it and i have, but what happens next time when you may have a big bet on and they do it again ? all im getting at is the procedure is wrong and needs looking at . /ie if connections of the horse that won the race differ soo vastly to the stewards and dont accept there viewpointy  then bets on the race should be frozen .let the bha/jocvkey club review it and give a verdict that everyone has to accept rather than three or four numptees word being gospel
Report Sheikh Handsman Al Mac's Tomb April 26, 2013 8:40 PM BST
Part-time stewarding of our professional racing is very amateurish i agree, but are you suggesting no bets are ever paid out until any appeals are heard and the 'supreme' stewards give their verdict?! Don't think that'll ever happen. You've got to take it on the chin and hope you get one going your way in the future.
Report homefortea April 26, 2013 8:47 PM BST
Not sure who you are gpz6316 but you must be a newbie betting on UK Horseracing.The fact there is an amended result is as rare as a trainer getting caught for doping horses..
Report scorpi April 26, 2013 8:47 PM BST
Why figure there a price 1,34, when i bet for 1,01 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Why figure there a price 1,34, when i bet for 1,01 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Why figure there a price 1,34, when i bet for 1,01 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Why figure there a price 1,34, when i bet for 1,01 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

WTF___________________
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 9:01 PM BST
i concur with what your saying mostly as connections could launch objections reguarly and that obviously wouldnt be viable . what about an ombusman whom could sift through the trash and award owners a say 5 challenges (tennis)type theme .Put forward such cases where upon in fact theres a case to answer .getting ripped off and then being told to live with it isnt a statement that any anybody from horseracing or any other walk of life people  should have to put up with and nor should it .in my my eyes send it to an ombudsman whom decides quickly over wether or not there is a case to answer. unfreeze bets if there isnt a case to answer , and wait for a judgement if there is . there  you go a punter friendly abbitration code
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 9:04 PM BST
homefortea i was new to betting horses when i backed corbierre at 13-1 to win the grand national though must admit im new to bf forum
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 9:06 PM BST
im off for a bit o poker now at full tilt gl all and may no bad steradship fall upon you !
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 9:08 PM BST
homefor tea i would like to take you on heads if you got any gonads
Report homefortea April 26, 2013 9:10 PM BST
Just make sure that no-one knows the face down cards as it would not be a First....
Report Sheikh Handsman Al Mac's Tomb April 26, 2013 9:11 PM BST
Quite honestly I would prefer first past the post for ALL on-the-day results and bets.

If at a subsequent enquiry a jockey is found to have deliberately hampered a rival I would punish him severely (with a ban in months, not weeks) as a strong deterrent. Plenty of riding 'offences' are ridculous considering the jockeys are steering 1/2 a ton of tired horse at the end of a race.
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 9:12 PM BST
come on shylock ill give you a go heads up come on
Report homefortea April 26, 2013 9:12 PM BST
Is that some kind of Homosexual come on because if it is I am off ......
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 9:16 PM BST
errr no just a little challenge obv you dont wanna take up. best of luck
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 9:24 PM BST
ok im o wild river on full tilt any heads up players wanna take me on . sat
Report TiptheOdds April 26, 2013 9:27 PM BST
Since when have BF been FPP?
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 9:27 PM BST
its on i got beckymill
Report gpz6316 April 26, 2013 9:55 PM BST
nowt down thought it maybe a player but naah good but not good enuff  ship me some people im o wild rivr on heads up full tilt poker
Report MrHunt April 26, 2013 10:56 PM BST
oi dc ru pi$$ed cos ya tarking some pony
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