Stoute now has 6/1 fav for both Derby & Oaks

And Willo tells us Telescope hasn't done it on the clock yet!

Im waiting to see what mordin says

Workwatchers or gossips at the breeze-up sales?

How many winners has he trained over the last few seasons? Results have been nothing short of woeful. Gets a couple of maiden winners and suddenly he is going to win the Derby and Oaks. Will need to have had fortunes on to recoup recent losses.

With little to make punters froth at the mouth for the 2 classics, perhaps making them have

a stab at a trainers runners who has had a very poor few years is the best way to go.

Buyer always beware

Trainer has gone, his maiden at Windsor yesterday  ran dreadfully

In what way has he gone please?

Cant train many winners out of stable full of well bred osses..

Finds it hard to get one ready/fit for seasonal appearance

Apparently on the phone to M Johnston and JJ Oneil looking for advice on training tecniques

The Industry ante post think tank has many cob webs and few cleaners now as the huge profits from FOBTs has caused

redundancies...


My above comment is ridiculous but perfectly posed

I still think Stoute is one of the best trainers.
The last 2 seasons have been below his normal high standards, but he just has not had the stars in his stable. Like his jockey R Moore, its not a numbers game (winners) its about winning Big races.
Personally the bookmakers ante-p odds about both horses are very short indeed for what they have done on the track (maiden winners).
Of the 2 horses in question, I was taken by the filly winning at Goodwood last year & would not be surprised to see her make-up into a top class mid-dist 3yo filly, I like the look of her, but until I see more, I would not even consider 6s ante-p for the Oaks.