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02 Mar 13
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Can't get away from him UK Racing yesterday, Channel 4 today. He is going to ruin Channel 4 Cheltenham coverage. Can't even pronounce words properly.
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arrogant coont and one of them that's never ever ever ever fookin wrong!
Where do we stand on describing him as a silver fox please ?
really can't abide him
last week on ch4 racing virtually everything he said pre race turned out wrong then he excused all of them for some made up reason
useless and boring
last week on ch4 racing virtually everything he said pre race turned out wrong then he excused all of them for some made up reason
useless and boring
A guesser that's good at talking about guessing, imo...
exactly
that Alex Steadman is the same, can talk for 10 minutes about a race, get everything wrong and then claim that he knew that was going to happen
that Alex Steadman is the same, can talk for 10 minutes about a race, get everything wrong and then claim that he knew that was going to happen
Horse must be going for a few pints down Mathew Street instead of racing imo
Graham here , this C4 gig is really important to me and my career and you lot are just plain jealous of me , so please go away and play with your toys or ballbag or what ever it is you losers do 
i know sombody that works with him--apparently he is so stuck up his own arse---loves himself
I;m afraid Graham is no where near as good as Jim Mcgrath in tipping winners, but, he's a good airtime filler.
'He goes to Liverpool rather than Aintree'
Presumably he could replace a few of the donkeys they have in their squad... Mind you they were a bit better this evening!
Presumably he could replace a few of the donkeys they have in their squad... Mind you they were a bit better this evening!
Dairy milk 
FFs he tipped up Calgary bay today
He knows less than my tortoise
FFs he tipped up Calgary bay today
He knows less than my tortoise
I don't have the figures for C4H but his tipping record on RUK and CH4 for races I watch is awful this season. There have been very few occasion he has tipped something that made me worry about my own tip and it is even rarer that one of his tips beats one of mine. He is a drudge and his phraseology is grating to say the least.
Buona Serra richters,not seen yifter on here for a while.Watchit must be lapping up the praise heaped upon his appraisal of GC imvho?
he has a sporting life web chat on fridays and people want his advice as well as tips from him......god they must be desperate
trathnona mhaith duit GT....ye was thinkin hafnt seen him since the c4 coup....have ye looked at the 22.03 aquaduct gt?
That would explain the absence of manky and Laz luv cardiff.
No US for me richters......unless you want me to have a look?
in 2 weeks during the summer he suggested laying danedream in the KG the previous week society rock in the haydock race...both won at double figure odds
nice 3yo race 400kdollar prize fund.....was a thread here earlier.....
cardiff he put some stop to the bathwick owned horse today in the handicap hurdle
bit like that Graeme Rodway (Rodman?) at last years Cheltenham, never tipped a single winner all meeting and said to lay Sprinter Sacre useless
matt williams the scouser had a mare also.....he upset anthony knott also....
Watchit brought out the side of GC on here that is now apparently being confirmed by the posts now in the majority.Can dish it out and whine when tackled but now considers himself a cut above coming on the forum to defend his corner.
Watchit just used to make snidey comments about GC as i recall
As I recall they were snidey but provoked a reaction,the reactions generally more or less confirming Watchit was close to the truth fife?
fife have you hears anyone on here compliment yifter just as a matter if interest........
Gone for No7 Vyjack richters with a straight and rev ex with the 8.gl
Toffee Pops
I totally agree. GC is articulate & eloquent, possessing a pleasing & insightful view.
I totally agree. GC is articulate & eloquent, possessing a pleasing & insightful view.
Richters one or two have but not many i admit though i dont think he deserves to be treated like enemy no 1 as some people seem to think he is on here. GT i think people are trying to get a reaction as he has een known to come on here and defend his corner before though thats unlikely to happen now he's on C4.
fife he probably is all the things you say he is....i dont know but what people have their backs up about imo is the constant trail of losing selections and the failed premium tip line........
fife.....if you read his friday SL web chat he has that arrogant heir about him........youre wrong and i am right....the trouble is he is rarely right
Going by the posts he sounds like a new version of Thommo in peoples minds,purporting to have something worth selling which is failing?
At least with the tipping line he stopped and refunded subs unlike another ex channel 4 presenter who fleeces the public and would not refund a bean. I do agree GC does come across a bit long winded though i dont think its arrogance.
fife.........the bottom line is his tipping line failed.......cant believe they didnt get steve mellish
fife.........the bottom line is his tipping line failed.......cant believe they didnt get steve mellish
Is it ignorance then fife? I have no agenda with GC and good luck to him if he manages to get a career out of being similar to Julian Wilson for being straight out of Burtons window (or is it George)with his inability to formulate a sensible and incisive preview of a race and then dissect where HE went wrong post race.
cardifffc
I subscribe to ATR (free) & RUK, and 95% of the time have made my own opinion of a race.
Pundits views are fine; I ignore 'em invariably.
But call GC what you like, there are several others, I would rather mute first.
I subscribe to ATR (free) & RUK, and 95% of the time have made my own opinion of a race.
Pundits views are fine; I ignore 'em invariably.
But call GC what you like, there are several others, I would rather mute first.
Cardifffc i think mellish is very good though i remember him being criticised on here when it was said he might only have half a dozen bets a year.
I thought it was less than that but he still got stick anyway.
last saturday was abysmal for cunningham on both the ML and the live show, absolutely nothing he said came true and then he after timed excuses for all his picks
I remember so because I posted on here about it
I remember so because I posted on here about it
In my opinion, Steve Mellish would hate the limelight of mainstream TV C4.
I agree with the way Mellish bets,I presume he meant serious punts.Said it before on here that each to their own if it works is fine as long as betting for "fun" or temptation is kept to a minimum.I bet every day there is racing in the UK,never stuck to a keyboard and rarely personally placing bets,every day is profit.
The few large bets that go on are usually struck on course,50% in person.I suspect that Mellish follows a similar pattern of when to strike.
If yifter is a punter as well as a pundit imo he needs the CH4 Gig as well as all the add on bits he can get?
The few large bets that go on are usually struck on course,50% in person.I suspect that Mellish follows a similar pattern of when to strike.
If yifter is a punter as well as a pundit imo he needs the CH4 Gig as well as all the add on bits he can get?
was tipping in laddies shops today......without success
I don't know how a full timer survives the costs of living and costs of doing nothing but looking for bets, only having a few bets a year.
judorick
You have put up a fantastic thread up on The Chelt' forum, by your race thoughts.
Would you feel comfortable, expressing your thoughts regularly on a day to day basis?
You have put up a fantastic thread up on The Chelt' forum, by your race thoughts.
Would you feel comfortable, expressing your thoughts regularly on a day to day basis?
yes I would, no worries but if I thought I did not have a clear understanding of the true chances I would say so
in fact I do as I tweet daily messages
in fact I do as I tweet daily messages
Judo wants/needs the insider info from the John Wade yard to be a success.............so do I........judo my bet was beaten on the line yesterday............on the fooking line and not a penny on the winner.
It was ok judo,no damage and an ok return.It just proves that it can be a double edged sword to put eggs in a basket for a stable rather than an individual horse.I didnt personally but molerats "mole" wasnt too far wrong imo.
Time to keep a close eye on the stable at the lesser meetings,better ground,should be a few nice winners and hopefully the rat will give a nudge in the right direction.
Btw you heard it here first,James Revelly will not be a regular at the yard.
Might never enter again.
Time to keep a close eye on the stable at the lesser meetings,better ground,should be a few nice winners and hopefully the rat will give a nudge in the right direction.
Btw you heard it here first,James Revelly will not be a regular at the yard.
Might never enter again.
Fair play judo'
You seem far less confrontational these days!
You seem far less confrontational these days!
never have been confrontational
I post my thoughts which often take a long time and a lot of work and cogitation to arrive at and some prick comes along 30 seconds after I post the message and rips it apart without giving it a moments consideration and that really gets on my tits
Like the guy who posted "you are a clueless mug" 30 seconds after I posted that Sprinter Sacre would win by over 4 lengths, with Cue Card in second place and that SS should be 1/3 before the Arkle and we know what happened then. I was not fecking guessing
I have done a massive amount of work on the national and have come to some strong conclusions, there are a load of horses trading at 30 and less that have no chance but I'm not posting the work because it will just attract vitriole and all that, not worth it as I learnt last year with SHB
I post my thoughts which often take a long time and a lot of work and cogitation to arrive at and some prick comes along 30 seconds after I post the message and rips it apart without giving it a moments consideration and that really gets on my tits
Like the guy who posted "you are a clueless mug" 30 seconds after I posted that Sprinter Sacre would win by over 4 lengths, with Cue Card in second place and that SS should be 1/3 before the Arkle and we know what happened then. I was not fecking guessing
I have done a massive amount of work on the national and have come to some strong conclusions, there are a load of horses trading at 30 and less that have no chance but I'm not posting the work because it will just attract vitriole and all that, not worth it as I learnt last year with SHB
I want to state here as a first...............I have never seen judos tits............before Graham Cunningham,Steve Palmer,Derek Thompson,Martyn Laz,Bruce or Tom Seapigeon................or Paul Haigh get in here with false accusations.
I had no idea that Rebecca was married..............and btw her tits are nothing to write home about.
Hth ewe bitches.
I had no idea that Rebecca was married..............and btw her tits are nothing to write home about.
Hth ewe bitches.
He's a sweetie old judo. Even offering free dental work when you disagree with one of his views. What a guy.
All the best at Chelt' judorick.
I remain a different type of punter, to you! (another way to skin a cat)
I'm with you on Salsify. (no Barbers Shop
this year)
GL
I remain a different type of punter, to you! (another way to skin a cat)
I'm with you on Salsify. (no Barbers Shop
this year)GL
Cunningham's tipping on C4 is on a par with his Bet Maverick performance.
But look on the bright side, when he is talking Fitzgerald isn't !
But look on the bright side, when he is talking Fitzgerald isn't !
fwiw jud i always find your posts of interest......i have no interst in suckling on your breast either
A dullard. Sums up the new channel 4 setup unfortunately.
graham cunnilingus is brilliant for the punter . just lay all his tips if the tip is more than 3 to1 lay for a place . im 1200 up since he got the job on ch 4 i love cunnilingus
the glare of prime time tv has proven too much for him
Coral TV would be more suitable for his talents.
Coral TV would be more suitable for his talents.
judorick
Well I'm really struggling with the National this year and would be interested to know what you have come up with so far.
Well I'm really struggling with the National this year and would be interested to know what you have come up with so far.
fawwon
I don't know how a full timer survives the costs of living and costs of doing nothing but looking for bets, only having a few bets a year.
They wouldn't do it if they had decent jobs. Based on ROI of 2-5% which would be the best one could hope for and taking into account travelling/entrance/subsistence expenses turnover, would need to be 2M a year to beat a decent salary. You can't get that sort of money down on-line, in the bookies or at the track. Anybody saying they do is talking bull. This is why Mellish, Cunningham, Nevison, Willoughby, McGrath are pundits.
I don't know how a full timer survives the costs of living and costs of doing nothing but looking for bets, only having a few bets a year.
They wouldn't do it if they had decent jobs. Based on ROI of 2-5% which would be the best one could hope for and taking into account travelling/entrance/subsistence expenses turnover, would need to be 2M a year to beat a decent salary. You can't get that sort of money down on-line, in the bookies or at the track. Anybody saying they do is talking bull. This is why Mellish, Cunningham, Nevison, Willoughby, McGrath are pundits.
I think Cunningham gets a lot of unfair stick on here, yes he might be pretty poor on the tipping front, but arent most tv pundits horrendous tipsters anyway?, and yes he could talk a hind leg off a donkey, but I think he's a genuine down to earth guy, at least he would come on here and interact with the forumites unlike many who think their sh!te doesn't stink, way above interacting with those low life pocket talking riff raff off the betfair forum.
But after all the stick he's been recieving since been recruited by CH4 I'm not sure Graham could be bothered anymore?.
But after all the stick he's been recieving since been recruited by CH4 I'm not sure Graham could be bothered anymore?.
exactly, silvergreaser...why on earth would anyone pop their head above the parapet on here when all they get is dog's abuse....what do people want him to come on say anyway? 'sorry, lads, my tipping was sh!te again today and i apologise that some of you find me boring?'...by the time he's got back from Newbury to the NW i'm sure he'd have better things to do than come on here 
LOL at silvergreaser think you are forgetting the rather important point that up untill his tipping line failed and whenever he was on ruk ,he liked to be descibed as a pro punter,you cant compare him with plunket,francome,grahem etc
all though yifter likes to think of himself as a racing
fan,into the history and romance of it etc ,he,d turn to any system that turned him a profit,
he,s failed at
fast pics pinching pen nys of mugs
laying horses
back to lay horses
tipping lines
and we now can safely add tv punditry to his list of failures,yifter often use to talk about enjoying a social day at the races with his mates down the pub, he should stick to that and return to being a journo
all though yifter likes to think of himself as a racing
fan,into the history and romance of it etc ,he,d turn to any system that turned him a profit,
he,s failed at
fast pics pinching pen nys of mugs
laying horses
back to lay horses
tipping lines
and we now can safely add tv punditry to his list of failures,yifter often use to talk about enjoying a social day at the races with his mates down the pub, he should stick to that and return to being a journo
SilverG - your post of 09:55 is spot on in my view and whilst I'm not a fan of ANYONE on TV concerning tipping (think about it...their TV appearances are their income) there are far better targets with bull's-eyes on their backs!
Maybe I haven't listened to him enough but Cunningham has never struck me as having difficulty stringing a sentence together as some have suggested - I like his style with his pre-race analysis even though it's invariably wrong...I'm sure I'm not alone in salivating at the prospect of how a big race might be run, and it's NOT embarrassing to be way out, as that one 25/1 winner makes up for the previous 10 that go awry.
Maybe I haven't listened to him enough but Cunningham has never struck me as having difficulty stringing a sentence together as some have suggested - I like his style with his pre-race analysis even though it's invariably wrong...I'm sure I'm not alone in salivating at the prospect of how a big race might be run, and it's NOT embarrassing to be way out, as that one 25/1 winner makes up for the previous 10 that go awry.
Navel-Gazer
I like his style with his pre-race analysis even though it's invariably wrong...
"He goes to Liverpool rather than Aintree"
"later·ly" instead of "lat·ter·ly"
A couple of classics yesterday. He tries hard and is obviously enthusiastic about racing. Maybe he should spend less time on the form book and talk about how the race is framed and any inside information he may have.
I like his style with his pre-race analysis even though it's invariably wrong...
"He goes to Liverpool rather than Aintree"
"later·ly" instead of "lat·ter·ly"
A couple of classics yesterday. He tries hard and is obviously enthusiastic about racing. Maybe he should spend less time on the form book and talk about how the race is framed and any inside information he may have.
SA - I'm sure you realise what I meant though maybe I should've used the word 'enthusiasm'...there's nothing worse than some presenting fcuker just going through the motions, having very little appetite for the game.
At least you can see he means & feels what he says, and I can't understand why he gets so much (personal) stick on here, when there are numerous others eminently qualified to be in the cross-hairs of the metaphorical sniper's rifle!
At least you can see he means & feels what he says, and I can't understand why he gets so much (personal) stick on here, when there are numerous others eminently qualified to be in the cross-hairs of the metaphorical sniper's rifle!
Tend to agree with Navel Gazer. Cunningham does make mistakes, but at least he shows a bit of enthusiasm. He clearly does do some research, which is a vast improvement on some of the jokers we see whose idea of analysis is reading out the Spotlight verdict from the RP.
It's hard to please everyone when doing a presenter's job as if a tipster's LIFE depended on giving a winner, that selection (like the Scoop 6 pot) would nearly always be on one of the first three in the betting - I'd be the same.
However, gambling is about value for me and finding something that COULD run far better than its price indicates...at decent odds one can back a few horses in a race.
I backed loads of 100+ horses (on Betfair) in the AP market for the Arc, and I tried to argue a case for them with ifs, buts & maybes - alas, Solemia wasn't one of them, but it just proves my point that outsiders do actually win, yet I was accused of being a guesser with a scatter-gun approach!
However, gambling is about value for me and finding something that COULD run far better than its price indicates...at decent odds one can back a few horses in a race.
I backed loads of 100+ horses (on Betfair) in the AP market for the Arc, and I tried to argue a case for them with ifs, buts & maybes - alas, Solemia wasn't one of them, but it just proves my point that outsiders do actually win, yet I was accused of being a guesser with a scatter-gun approach!
might prove the point your picks were priced correctly and the winner was a fluke winner,well fancied 2nd should have won,no one minds people posting about backing big pruiced winners its when they start telling us the form was there for the winner and the reasons for underperforming horses were all there , when most of the time the every dog has his day scenario has won out
An after-timer on here tried to argue a case for Solemia...I can't even see one NOW!
She had no chance of the frame in my opinion yet these things happen.
FWIW, I was really keen on Reliable Man (had him for huge money as I backed him regularly at up to 400 on here) in the hope it might turn up heavy on the day - I was utterly bewildered why he went to Canada a week later on ground that was forecast as firm!
I thought ADRD was shrewd...that astonished me, as it was a senseless preference, and with the benefit of hindsight, seeing a quality colt in Orfevre throw it away, I don't know how some could've been so readily dismissive about Reliable Man's chances with everything in his favour - I was gutted he didn't turn up
She had no chance of the frame in my opinion yet these things happen.
FWIW, I was really keen on Reliable Man (had him for huge money as I backed him regularly at up to 400 on here) in the hope it might turn up heavy on the day - I was utterly bewildered why he went to Canada a week later on ground that was forecast as firm!
I thought ADRD was shrewd...that astonished me, as it was a senseless preference, and with the benefit of hindsight, seeing a quality colt in Orfevre throw it away, I don't know how some could've been so readily dismissive about Reliable Man's chances with everything in his favour - I was gutted he didn't turn up
Just in case anyone has any doubt about his ability to analyse form, he's currently employed by Coral TV to give tips to the people in their betting shops.
That people can want to defend someone who will posture to be on the side of punters one day and then send off his invoices to Coral the next, shows only that turkeys really will vote for Christmas, imo...
That people can want to defend someone who will posture to be on the side of punters one day and then send off his invoices to Coral the next, shows only that turkeys really will vote for Christmas, imo...
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