Cautionary tale-Garleton Premier Chase tomorrow-Kelso

Interesting story alright.

Its when a substance like cedar oil or whatever they use now is put on a horses skin to irritate it so increase blood flow to the area, some people believe it speeds up recovery from tendon or similar injuries, it's used quite a lot in America, I don't know how common it is over here.

Sorry TTO,

I was preparing an answer to your question when it dawned on me rather that give you my understanding of what is involved just google it and you will probably get a better understanding of it. Its the usual situation when one considers that in many quarters blistering is considered barbaric by some and a useful treatment by others. I have no opinion either way but my tale was more on the devious/unscrupulous parties used by some people. In this occasion I feel so sorry for Garleton who did not deserve to be treated in this manner

BM,

Its used extensively over here but more I would suggest by the older generation of trainers,I suspect the younger ones will look to alternative methods

a choice for the horse, Cedar Oil or Harvey Smith, you decide.

thanks midas, I didn't know anything about it's use over here

so midas are you telling us that the horse was blistered to make it look like he had a leg?

Obviously my main point being is that the fact is the horse runs tomorrow after roughly 4 weeks following the sales means that the horse had f...all wrong with its leg and should not have been blistered in the first place, Purely a ruse to put off potential buyers and the misinformation given out by the trainer/wife. Shameful

in my book the trainer should be reported for fraud

And probably the new/existing owners who I assume were well aware of what was going on!!

if he blistered the horse for his own gain this should be reported as fraud

can Harry Topper really give 10lbs to Ballabriggs?

GC,

I suspect it may not be an easy task doing that,but hopefully they may have a conscience,and also word may get out what these people get up to for the sake of a few quid,as my auld heiland granny used to say "hell mend them" and with that good night to you all!!

Judorick,

I never miss this meeting and the last couple of years its been obvious Ballabriggs was needing the run for you now what, I would suggest yes Harry Topper will concede the weight!!

will be quite a feat

the last time Ballabriggs ran in the Kelso race he was carrying the 6lb penalty and was making his seasonal debut after a long lay off

this time he is getting weight and has had a run to blow the cobwebs away

judorick,not many horses, even Grand National winners ever recover from the lethering that horse took that day.

9/1 getting 10lb from a novice? looks a big price

This is how he ran last year with no prep run and carrying a penalty

"Tracked leaders, headway to lead briefly 10th, blundered next, smooth headway to lead after last, headed and outpaced final 200yds, better for race"

had two runs this time and no penalties

just saying it's a big price

A 12yo against an 140 rated Novice ....shirley not, the downward spiral for one, up up and away for the other.....and then there's Bold Sir Brianmmm

they've got to give him 10lbs and he's 8 or 9 to one, can easily see him leading over the last and trading much shorter

as for Bold Sir Brian, norfolk and chance

"as for Bold Sir Brian, norfolk and chance"


he'll leave Ballybriggs in his wake and I dare say he'll give Harry a real fright.

Ballabriggs not y

Completion at Kelso is also the goal for Bold Sir Brian after his last outing on the racecourse resulting in a crunching fall at Cheltenham, where he lay winded on the ground for several minutes.

Peter Scudamore, partner of trainer Lucinda Russell, said: "He had an horrific fall but our vets and physios have looked at him and say he is fine. He has schooled a lot and what happened doesn't seem to have worried him, but that's at home, so if he jumps round and runs a good race we'll be very satisfied."

as I said, norfolk and chance

just as well I have not backed it then, just my opinion, just as is my opinion that I feel Ballabriggs may be on the wain. I'd be surprised if he ever ran to his rating of 152 again.

if I'm right, and Bold Sir Brian has no chance, does that then not make 9 about Ballabriggs an interesting price? Getting 10lb from a novice making his debut at the track with the rest of the field trading at 17+ ? Ballabriggs ran well in this last year with no previous run, had two this year..

yes the fav may be too young and spritely but 10lbs is a lot of weight to give to a classy horse

as I said, it looks a big price and I am sure Balla will trade much shorter in play

There's something missing from this thread.

yeah I agree it should trade much shorter than 9 given that it has done so in 7 of its last 9 races excluding the GN

yes salmon its been taken off

salmon he was blistered to make it look like he had a leg

the trainer even told a well known commentator who comes on here who went to see the horse in his box at doncaster he had a leg

Thanks.
Mmmmmmm.

salmon shocking

Did the trainer win the GN with Rubstic ?

think so

Not a bad run from a horse that at Doncaster Sales just over 4 weeks ago the Trainer was telling everyone  had a leg and a bleeder,unsurprisingly the Trainer bought it,hmm!!

Sorry folks for people who did'nt read the thread from last night,but Betfair pulled the opening thread after a few hours which explained the story.

robbing b4st4rds

Fantastic run by the old lad. Would probably have won with Zander's claim.

Scratch that. I guess he couldn't have claimed in that race.

ged he's a better jock than that 4rse

Does this horse not want to go right-handed? He always jumps a little right at his fences. I know there wouldn't be many races for him that way round, but it surprises me that he's hardly ever gone that way.

Ged,

Zander would have received the 3lbs,difference between winning and losing,plus he knows how to ride!!

midas7

The old trooper ran an absolute storming race at Kelso today. I watched it down by the last and the jump he put in at that fence second time round had to be seen to be believed, I held my breath as he stood off so far, and he pulled one out at the last when Badger asked him.

Just a pity the news you had leaves a bit of a sour taste.

From Garleton's point of view though he once again proved that he is all guts! Hope to catch up with you again on the roof at Kelso soon!

RN

Hi RN,

For obvious reasons couldnt go near the place today, will see you next meeting when hopefully his successor will be running.Dont give up on your mare to follow pleasing effort at Catterick this week. Cheers

Good morning Midas,I backed Garleton yesterday for a decent bet.Please explain all this blistering etc you are talking about in a bit more detail?

Come on Midas............Bar or Pin............Tip The Odds are you going to explain on here?

This might be the first thread ever to make into a court if the OP cannot prove the allegation.All it will take is a vet to examine the leg.

If you are right midas/tto I am right behind you,this needs to be looked at,however I do hope you have the facts and terminology correct?

Come on Midas was he "blistered" in the UK or did he go on a ferry overnight?

GT-mole,It wasn't just the lies the trainer allegedly said he had a leg, his wife also stated the horse bleed

blead

bled

i'm so angry i cant spell right

did he ever PU in a race NO

Garleton    this gutsy horse unlucky on the win yesterday backers

Regards to your mate general custer   

As regard blistering, it can be used to prevent a horse breaking down or to

reduce the possibility of further damage to a tendon, a horse who has been

blistered which in itself is a painful business would require to be placed

in a cradle for its comfort and survival.  It is inconceivable that a horse

that has been blistered could be ready to run in four weeks, more like twelve

months in my book.