what is your best betting systeam on betfair

most on here full of hot air

syteams I mean

I have an EDGE Looks like a privet but its an Edge

In running with Betfair live steam...endless angles...

play like that your money will soon evaporate

Plenty on hear haven't the foggiest

i mist that won

You 2 need vapourising...

back the systeamers

stop clouding the issue

OP has low self esteam

tbh, he's lucky we didn't start on the ponce bit, thread could have gone downhill very quickly

havent the foggiest whats going on thb.

thread nearly 2 hrs old and no delta saying pier to pier site

pier to pier site

is that the exchange office based in Brighton ?

correct

OP you have no chance of any sensible response on this forum. Nobody helps anybody. It's full of guys reckoning they are better than everyone else and it's not a place to hang around. As long as you understand that, you might be OK.

A little bit extream their, Speculation?

Try and condense the fields

* to

we were only taking the pistons

Lay the coffin box AW up to and including 7f.

which one's the coffin box, barney?

No 1 Duncan for me anyway.First 1 down 11/4 fav.

the Romans had good systems- worked for them- could work for you?

take a profit of even a penny and dont be afraid to cut your losses, cashout/lay is the key

stall 1 currently in profit @ BFSP 5f-7f (all AW tracks) in 2013

Flying Scotsman was a good steamer imo...............

An utterly pointless question. Forum full of guessers.

Find a few horses that are going to get hammered in markets in the afternoon, back them early and trade out
before the off but watch out for drifters

To be a good trader you have to think like a pirhana fish, wait for the flood of money to come, follow the river and bite anything that moves, then get out before it all dries up

Duncan in profit as backs if that,s the case things may have changed on the AW tracks as I have had some reasonable success laying them Dundalk in particular.Ah well back to the drawing board exc the pun.

apologies barney...that was UK tracks only

4 losers so far Brimstone Hill in the 4.30.good luck all.

Bf says piraña I say white shark

A single bet bite at value

BACK EVEN MONEY FAVS IN SMALL FIELDS SAY 3 0R 4 RUNNERS DONT BACK THEM IN FIELDS WHERES THERES 5,6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 RUNNERS AS THE EVEN MOMEY FAV HAS MORE HORSES TO BEAT

THERES MORE HORSES TO PASS IN A BIG FIELD IF YOU START SLOWLY

IF ITS RAINING VERY HEAVY DONT BACK HORSES WITH BIG FEET AS THEY SEEM TO GET BURIED DEEPER IN THE VERY SOFT GROUND

What if its a front runner?

IF YOUVE SEEN A HORSE THROWING THE JAVLIN OR PUTTING THE SHOT DONT BACK IT IN A HORSE RACE AS IT MIGHT HAVE PULLED A MUSCLE

IF A JOCKEY HAS GOT A COLD AND CANT SPEAK LOUDLY  DONT BACK THE HORSE THAT HE IS RIDING ,THE HORSE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR HIM SAY GIDDY UP GIDDY UP

Greg_Gory
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I have an EDGE Wink Looks like a privet but its an Edge Grin


i saw an ackney cab in an edge once.

This is my latest system, I race the horses as a set of dimensioned races using certain
offsets relative to physical effects in time and spacial measurements and select the horses that have won the highest
amount of races, then I select the top 2 horses and watch them win quite a lot and show profits.

Just converted my latest Wolverhampton workbook and in the words of Hal from
2001 space Odyssey "Its full of stars"

		Ran	164.00	164.00
		Won	41.00	72.00
		SR%	25.00	43.90
Combined rating
		P/L	+72.99	-13.86
1:40 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Sewn Up	38	1	4.6	1.55
Dutch Delight	20	6	-1	-1
2:15 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Sulis Minerva	26	5	-1	-1
Tarooq	20	1	5.99	2.02
2:50 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Speed Steed	34	1	22.67	5.2
Liberty Love	26	2	-1	1.44
3:25 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Anaconda	30	1	3.45	1.99
Verse Of Love	30	5	-1	-1
4:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Rogue Reporter	27	7	-1	-1
Kielty's Folly	24	2	-1	1.61
4:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Dhhamaan	22	7	-1	-1
Littlecote Lady	19	4	-1	-1
5:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Elijah Pepper	34	7	-1	-1
Monzino	17	1	5.6	1.93
5:30  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Precision Strike	30	1	9.53	2.52
Salute To Seville	25	3	-1	-1
1:35 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Carole's Destrier	61	2	-1	1.38
Don't Be Late	14	3	-1	1.49
2:05 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Mush Mir	33	pu	-1	-1
Farewellatmidnight	22	11	-1	-1
2:40 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Snowed In	24	5	-1	-1
Thomas Crapper	16	7	-1	-1
3:15 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Velvet Vic	38	5	-1	-1
Karazhan	21	1	1.79	1.2
3:50 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Docs Legacy	39	1	2.99	1.62
Juno The Muffinman	36	2	-1	2.01
4:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
One Lucky Lady	17	4	-1	-1
Dreambrook Lady	16	3	-1	2.23
4:50  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hinterland	42	2	-1	1.06
Blazing Desert	25	5	-1	-1
1:40 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hab Reeh	34	1	2.69	1.34
Spread Boy	22	7	-1	-1
2:10 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Artful Lady	23	4	-1	-1
Mango Music	22	5	-1	-1
2:40 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hillbilly Boy	43	4	-1	-1
Hiddon Coin	24	1	2.53	1.23
3:10 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Bouyrin	76	2	-1	2.47
Go Far	15	3	-1	-1
3:40 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Bussa	50	2	-1	1.38
George Fenton	12	7	-1	-1
4:10 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Amelia Hull	56	2	-1	-1
Handsome Stranger	24	4	-1	-1
4:40 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Walter White	42	4	-1	-1
Abraq	23	6	-1	-1
5:10  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hepworth	19	1	3.2	1.52
Sail Home	16	4	-1	-1
2:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Stormy Morning	38	2	-1	1.43
Frosty Berry	23	8	-1	-1
2:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Climaxfortackle	29	1	3.75	1.37
Zing Wing	25	4	-1	-1
3:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Stand Guard	78	1	1.15	1.04
Volcanic Jack	12	3	-1	-1
3:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
West End Lad	40	2	-1	1.88
Faithful Ruler	28	1	23.53	8.6
4:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Stormbound	30	1	2.98	1.56
Merrjanah	29	5	-1	-1
4:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Dubai Celebration	26	3	-1	2.68
Bertie Blu Boy	22	9	-1	-1
5:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Spinning Ridge	27	2	-1	1.58
Peak Storm	18	7	-1	-1
5:30  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Maggie Pink	27	5	-1	-1
Silver Wind	24	6	-1	-1
4:50 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Strong Man	32	7	-1	-1
Perlachy	27	6	-1	-1
5:20 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Proper Charlie	38	2	-1	1.3
Dark Lane	28	5	-1	-1
5:50 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Monzino	17	5	-1	-1
Tyrur Ted	16	4	-1	-1
6:20 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Young Jackie	28	1	2.92	1.34
Kheskianto	20	9	-1	-1
6:50 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Alaskan Bullet	31	6	-1	-1
Six Wives	16	8	-1	-1
7:20 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Postmaster	36	10	-1	-1
Goldan Jess	27	1	2.39	1.32
7:50	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Taxiformissbyron	67	1	1.86	1.23
Jonny Wombat	18	5	-1	-1
4:50 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hurricane Spirit	36	1	1.85	1.13
Honey Of A Kitten	25	4	-1	-1
5:25 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Silver Alliance	45	1	7.23	3.39
Royal Sea	21	6	-1	-1
6:00 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Goldstorm	25	4	-1	-1
Idol Deputy	22	1	8.24	2.38
6:30 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Aryal	79	2	-1	1.05
Rouge Nuage	15	1	5.63	1.2
7:00 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
York Glory	35	2	-1	1.37
Swiss Cross	26	5	-1	-1
7:30 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Cardinal	24	2	-1	2.03
Sole Danser	22	3	-1	1.45
8:00	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Derwentwater	39	1	2.26	1.23
Shearian	24	2	-1	1.61
2:45 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Shaker Style	24	10	-1	-1
Easydoesit	23	2	-1	1.38
3:20 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Steel City Boy	27	6	-1	-1
Russian Bullet	15	7	-1	-1
3:50 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Zing Wing	36	4	-1	-1
Azrael	20	2	-1	1.48
4:25 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Frontier Fighter	35	3	-1	-1
Showboating	19	4	-1	-1
4:55 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Desert Vision	80	F	-1	-1
The Mongoose	9	3	-1	-1
5:25 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Annelko	26	4	-1	-1
Wordiness	24	1	3.82	2.06
5:55	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Bathcounty	49	5	-1	-1
Wyborne	34	1	2.12	1.18
5:05 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Norwegian Reward	48	2	-1	1.7
Fighter Boy	24	7	-1	-1
5:35 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Bussa	34	1	4.05	1.64
Lieutenant Dan	19	6	-1	-1
6:05 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Run It Twice	41	2	-1	-1
It's Only Business	26	1	2.82	1.43
6:35 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Strike Force	37	1	8.2	1.88
Monzino	19	2	-1	1.87
7:05 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hand In Glove	83	1	1.33	1.1
Green Millionaire	14	2	-1	-1
8:05	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Blue Noodles	18	6	-1	-1
First Rebellion	18	3	-1	5.56
7:35 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Tanghan	28	8	-1	-1
Blazing Knight	24	6	-1	-1
5:00 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Festival Dance	21	8	-1	-1
Holy Angel	18	1	3.46	1.8
5:30 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
George Fenton	26	1	8.54	3.55
Whipphound	18	4	-1	-1
6:00 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Ryedale Dancer	37	7	-1	-1
Glennten	26	2	-1	1.83
6:30 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Newstead Abbey	54	1	1.26	1.14
Eyeline	20	5	-1	-1
7:00 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Broxbourne	29	1	3.5	1.91
Epic Storm	27	3	-1	-1
7:30 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Monte Cavallo	33	8	-1	-1
Roman Flight	20	3	-1	3.78
8:00 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Mayforde Jack	74	5	-1	-1
Reggie Rabbit	16	6	-1	-1
8:30	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Cut The Cackle	27	10	-1	-1
Hold The Star	22	9	-1	-1
6:20 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Bertie Blu Boy	26	6	-1	-1
Arabian Flight	18	4	-1	-1
6:50 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hillbilly Boy	63	1	1.73	1.23
Maypole Joe	20	3	-1	-1
7:20 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Zing Wing	38	1	11.5	4.01
Spark Of Genius	31	3	-1	-1
7:50 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Empowermentofwomen	69	1	3	1.23
Hamla	16	2	-1	1.41
8:20 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Good Evans	80	1	1.17	1.04
Dutch Delight	17	2	-1	-1
8:50 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Arashi	47	5	-1	-1
Blazing Desert	43	2	-1	2.06
9:20	points	Result	Pl/s	place
One Scoop Or Two	53	1	3.99	1.48
Outlaw Torn	17	6	-1	-1
2:30 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Fantasy Fighter	21	8	-1	-1
Miserere Mei	21	2	-1	1.57
3:00 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Mother Jones	44	4	-1	-1
Athaakeel	15	1	39.05	7.42
3:30 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Suffice	42	1	4.11	1.4
Knight In Purple	41	5	-1	-1
4:00 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Naru	56	2	-1	-1
Mudaawem	40	3	-1	-1
4:30 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Idol Deputy	19	9	-1	-1
Exning Halt	18	7	-1	-1
5:00 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Taxiformissbyron	44	4	-1	-1
Run It Twice	30	1	4.51	2.27
5:30 »	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Spinning Ridge	32	4	-1	-1
Kai	21	8	-1	-1
6:00	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Kielty's Folly	34	2	-1	2.56
Purley Queen	25	3	-1	7.81

27 top rated wins out of 83 races tells me I am on to something now...

Short their share price...continue watching them treat their customers with utter contempt...clean up.

The only problem Betfair has is the Greed shown by many disfuctional European countries that want to get
thier dirty hands on the Gaming industry profits from where ever it is based via licensing regulations
and taxes and this problem of greed travels from the furtest point of the new world all the way through Asia
to the even stricker control of internet trading in the far east.

A certain amount of Countries are puppeted by monopoly effective gaming companies as in the case of the states
that has quickly banned internet gaming while allowing 888 to easily grab the first online gaming linceses
also the state acitvily taxes any gamber that gets lucky and in some states its over 50%.

Another sector of the world countries complety control any gambling to feed its treasuries in the form of
state lotteries and state owned gaming.

It could reach the point where the pressure acted upon gamling firms and professional punters would
mean in the case of exchanges it would be more effective for professional gamblers to move to Malta

European union needs to throw its weight to stop these countries making the rules up as they go along to efectively
tax operators that make profits abroad and not in the varoius customers countries as the money would be held in
foriegn acccounts.

If Eurorope cant agree on a fair policy for Internet Business then I cant see any future personally in the European Union.

And My concerns are for all Gambling operators and not just Exchanges that are affected.

Apologies for the spellos...

no need to apologise.....no-one's reading it

I have just realised what the bf means in bf_fanatic,

BORING FECKER

IMACE, some advice, if there was a system that actually worked over time do you really think someones gonna post it on here,systems last for a short period if they work in the first place and thats a big if, once every tom dick & harry has gotten hold of it the odds are compressed and its no longer profitable,the only way to win is to do the work yourself and dont rely on pie in the sky systems.

jajabink your quite right and though sometimes its difficult to hide intelligently driven betting on exchanges
it can be done using the correct auto betting software so that the industry and other pikes don't cotton on till
race off time!

To follow on from my earlier post that reveals how effective my new simulated racing rating system
is compared to contemporary attempts by me and others to rate horses, the previous 90 races at Wolves
has shown almost identical strike rates for top and second rated though slight difference in market returns
but still healthy and very encouraging, plus I have used no filtering what so ever thus the application
of filtering, flagging and profiling should reveal greater profits.

		Ran	183.00	183.00
		Won	44.00	93.00
		SR%	24.04	50.82
Combined rating
		P/L	+59.76	+20.41
4:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Drawnfromthepast	39	1	2.49	1.27
Mother Jones	36	3	-1	-1
4:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Reaction	34	3	-1	-1
Sohcahtoa	21	1	5.69	2.71
5:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Cut Across	23	2	-1	1.88
Bubbly Ballerina	14	7	-1	-1
5:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Testa Rossa	50	1	2.8	1.28
Peak Storm	33	4	-1	-1
6:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Verse Of Love	29	1	19.2	4
Solar Deity	29	3	-1	-1
6:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Aragorn Rouge	21	3	-1	1.81
Edgware Road	18	9	-1	-1
7:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Golan Heights	25	2	-1	1.29
Merchants Return	21	6	-1	-1
7:30  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Rano Pano	39	1	4.66	1.28
Bygones For Coins	25	4	-1	-1
1:45 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
The Jailer	19	7	-1	-1
Chateau Lola	19	6	-1	-1
2:15 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Idol Deputy	21	4	-1	-1
Lean On Pete	21	1	3.1	1.42
2:45 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Neige D'Antan	28
Silver Alliance	22
3:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Jordaura	42	4	-1	-1
Activate	39	1	1.61	1.24
3:50 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Boxing Shadows	35	6	-1	-1
Archie Stevens	22	2	-1	1.61
4:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Invigilator	28	4	-1	-1
Strong Man	21	2	-1	2.26
4:50 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Kai	40	2	-1	1.93
Lisselton Cross	25	5	-1	-1
5:20  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Putin	50	2	-1	1.34
Blue Noodles	15	4	-1	-1
2:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Lucky Mark	22	6	-1	-1
Spark Of Genius	20	1	2.62	1.38
2:50 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
One Way Or Another	46	1	2.77	1.54
Violent Velocity	37	2	-1	-1
3:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Spin A Wish	32	10	-1	-1
Arabian Flight	16	2	-1	1.92
3:50 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Waldsee	26	6	-1	-1
Bygones For Coins	20	7	-1	-1
4:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Pass The Time	30	8	-1	-1
Easydoesit	19	1	6.85	2.12
4:50 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Aubrietia	25	1	5.93	2.05
Avonvalley	20	5	-1	-1
5:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Rapscallion Deep	68	2	-1	1.11
So Vain	14	5	-1	-1
5:50  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Precision Strike	25	3	-1	3.93
Dream About You	21	4	-1	-1
2:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Summerinthecity	24	2	-1	6.36
Toga Tiger	20	1	13.9	4.02
2:50 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Dhhamaan	28	5	-1	-1
Essell	22	6	-1	-1
3:25 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
We Are City	46	7	-1	-1
Loulou Vuitton	15	6	-1	-1
3:55 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Cosmic Halo	21	2	-1	1.73
Trip Switch	20	8	-1	-1
4:25 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Frontier Fighter	66	1	1.94	1.34
Cape Crossing	25	2	-1	4.5
4:55 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Roughlyn	30
If I Had Him	23
5:25  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Kyllachykov	12	1	4	1.68
Bertie Blu Boy	12	2	-1	3.78
1:35 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hab Reeh	25	6	-1	-1
Loyal Royal	23	2	-1	2.55
2:05 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Ivestar	32	1	7.6	2.3
Imjin River	15	5	-1	-1
2:35 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Sir Boss	27	2	-1	2.1
Tingo In The Tale	25	4	-1	-1
3:05 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Neige D'Antan	45	2	-1	1.23
Royal Sea	32	1	7.49	1.84
3:35 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Fame Again	33	3	-1	-1
Availed Speaker	21	5	-1	-1
4:05 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Rapid Water	26	6	-1	-1
Dubai Celebration	25	2	-1	2.3
4:35  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Dutch Mistress	58	1	10.18	3.65
Gebayl	31	3	-1	-1
4:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Kai	27	1	4.77	1.87
Red Shadow	13	8	-1	-1
4:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Red Ramesses	22	7	-1	-1
Nine Before Ten	15	6	-1	-1
5:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Showboating	23	5	-1	-1
Seeking Magic	17	4	-1	-1
5:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Day Of Destiny	64	6	-1	-1
Stetson	16	4	-1	-1
6:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Priors Gold	60	2	-1	1.47
Stand Guard	25	1	1.63	1.19
6:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Flying Power	53	3	-1	-1
Art History	13	7	-1	-1
7:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Mosman	53	3	-1	-1
Solace	31	2	-1	1.43
7:30  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Revolving World	27	8	-1	-1
Midnight Sequel	23	2	-1	2.4
1:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Aragorn Rouge	28	2	-1	1.6
Refreshestheparts	20	1	8.26	2.33
1:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Meglio Ancora	16	2	-1	7.99
Monte Cassino	15
2:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Jack My Boy	19	2	-1	2.46
Spark Of Genius	19	3	-1	1.32
2:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Bay Laurel	25	7	-1	-1
Red Dragon	22	1	4.84	1.52
3:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Aubrietia	17	2	-1	1.77
Another Citizen	14
3:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Lead Role	56	1	2.45	1.24
First Serve	13	3	-1	2.91
4:00  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Kames Park	28	1	3.89	1.63
Volcanic Jack	23	7	-1	-1
1:50 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Rakaan	53	2	-1	1.11
Frequency	12	5	-1	-1
2:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Persian Marvel	37	7	-1	-1
Hazard Warning	14	1	4.17	1.72
2:50 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Cool Sky	43	2	-1	1.26
English Summer	24	1	3.9	1.68
3:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Tight Knit	35	2	-1	1.37
Rainford Glory	21	4	-1	-1
4:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Naru	55	1	16.5	4.65
Pencombe	16	8	-1	-1
3:50 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Run It Twice	61	1	2.75	1.4
Cheektocheek	34	3	-1	-1
4:50  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Una Bella Cosa	28	3	-1	1.49
Gabrial The Duke	21	5	-1	-1
2:20 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hab Reeh	22	2	-1	3.2
Molly Jones	21	9	-1	-1
2:55 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Amethyst Dawn	15
Rafaaf	14	5	-1	-1
3:25 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hepworth	50	2	-1	1.3
Biggins Boy	18	1	6.01	1.79
4:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hardy Red	43	4	-1	-1
Ishigunnaeatit	29	2	-1	-1
4:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Smalljohn	17	11	-1	-1
Silverware	15	9	-1	-1
5:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Goldstorm	23	1	11.5	3.25
Mr Chocolate Drop	20	10	-1	-1
5:30  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Elijah Pepper	29	7	-1	-1
Strike Force	23	3	-1	2.33
4:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Aubrietia	43	1	1.79	1.07
Mother Jones	39	4	-1	-1
5:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Stand Guard	64	1	1.22	1.02
Priestley's Reward	27	2	-1	-1
5:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Iggy	53	1	4.01	1.36
Sewn Up	23	2	-1	1.22
6:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Rakticate	56	2	-1	2.57
Rosie Future	14	3	-1	1.98
6:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Time Square	24	5	-1	-1
West End Lad	22	1	5.75	2.67
7:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Calaf	21	7	-1	-1
Desert Vision	20	1	6	1.75
7:30  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Coastal Passage	20	10	-1	-1
Lord Paget	17	4	-1	-1
2:35 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Crimson Queen	21	8	-1	-1
Passionada	21	5	-1	-1
3:05 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Volcanic Jack	23	6	-1	-1
Alborz	22	2	-1	2.1
3:35 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Devout	34	4	-1	-1
Frans Hals	29	3	-1	2.53
4:05 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Red Somerset	63	1	2.21	1.25
Jack Who's He	24	2	-1	-1
4:35 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Meglio Ancora	29	3	-1	-1
Harvest Mist	27	4	-1	-1
5:05 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Exning Halt	53	1	1.31	1.1
Kuraanda	22	5	-1	-1
5:35  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
On The Hoof	22	2	-1	3.65
Noble Jack	21	1	4.23	1.77
2:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Lady Malet	47	4	-1	-1
Peak Storm	23	3	-1	-1
2:35 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Ashamaly	44	1	1.48	1.07
Red Gift	35	2	-1	-1
3:10 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hab Reeh	27	1	3.25	1.59
Miserere Mei	25	3	-1	1.93
3:40 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Steel City Boy	23	1	17.14	4.1
Dingaan	17	7	-1	-1
4:10 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Sewn Up	42	2	-1	-1
Roland	31	1	4.2	1.82
4:40 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
One Scoop Or Two	40	2	-1	2.18
Strike Force	23	1	9.72	3.7
5:10  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Precision Five	42	4	-1	-1
Edgware Road	20	2	-1	5.92
4:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Sudden Wish	35	3	-1	2.66
Young Jackie	18	1	4.34	1.78
5:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
One Way Or Another	27	2	-1	1.7
Hail Promenader	17	4	-1	-1
5:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Iridescence	59	1	2.61	1.11
Passionate Diva	18	2	-1	1.36
6:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Experimentalist	25	5	-1	-1
Valid Reason	25	6	-1	-1
6:30 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Drawnfromthepast	40	6	-1	-1
Noverre To Go	25	2	-1	2.1
7:00 »  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Bussa	32	2	-1	2.07
Boy The Bell	25	5	-1	-1
7:30  Wolverhampton (AW)	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Lord Paget	26	7	-1	-1
Under Par	26	2	-1	3.85

i was just skimming past his bollx when i came across this ...

duncan idaho Date Joined: 08 Mar 03
no need to apologise.....no-one's reading it

quite true, very funny

Well probably thats due to your limited attention spans along with primitive problem solving skills
and the emotional part of your brains having a higher percentage of control over your thoughts as opposed to higher
states of thought and learning.

More interesting data

I will be relying on punters and the indusrty not going the full mile as I
will be exploiting all noticed mistakes in prices with complete confidence.

always remember what works one day can come undone another

When using stats that are not based on directly comparing the chances of one horse being infront
of another you will always have results that meander around a profit line.

And a stat can be anything from the freaquency of certain horses winning to the frequency of certain jockeys and trainers
that are over betted after pathes of good form....

*patches

we

are

not

interested

in

your

very

long

tables.

kindly

refrain

from

posting

them

in

future

ta.

System 1
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system 2
Do the opposite of what you have been doing to lose for the last several years

I have some very naughty pupils in class today

I bet you wouldnt mind looking at my new simulated race ratings for Southwell today!

when you post a p&l with proper bets people might take you seriously(might), until then you're filed under fckwit

Have you more more money than sense then relativly elise as this would be the logical assumption
based on your concept that you need to actually bet to seem better and taken seroiusly than someone
that made theoretically more profit!

Does vulgarity add more weight to your flawed reasoning?

I think elise has your number. You are one of the top tools of the forum. Best of luck anyway.

imace,

I am a Nigerian Prince and if you can PM me your credit card details, Name, address and home and mobile number.

I will arrange for bf-fanantic to 'disappear.'

bf..you do make chuckle i actually do all my own form and rating thats the easy bit....you know wot the hard bit is!

Could you all stop PM'ing me now please?

Perhaps the Forum is more popular for throwing paper airoplanes around and shooting peas
at other members necks and not for matters concering the rating and betting of runners, hey ho...

The System many BetFairians wish they had followed is the Closed Account Do Something Useful System.

1. Deposit your starting amount.
2. Withdraw your starting amount without having a bet.
3 Log off.
4 Never return to the website.
5. Get on with your life doing something useful.

With this system you would have saved all the money you have lost and not wasted any time trying to achieve the impossible. You would of lived a more fruitful and useful life and not strained your eyes on a computer screen!

This is an unbeatable gambolling system.

I hope this clarifies the matter!

Well slicer thats all fair and well for you to say but heres my view on things

1.Study a certain sport and keep records
2.Create reliable methods of testing the likely outcomes of the events and create perceied chances
3.Place money in a betfair account
4.Make steady and good profits using best odds around any pay charges if due.

And here is what an output from an app looks like if you have done your homework properly

2 recent races from Southwell and the rating number is the forecasted winning percent chance by testing
each race 60 times and both top rated were priced as profitable to back at Betfair odds.

2:10 »	points
Makinson Lane	67
Ifan	25
Frosty Friday	10
2:45 »	points
Flying Pickets	57
Elusive Warrior	34
Fluctuation	12

Kerching

Big chunks of £2000-£3000 were bet on Elusive Warrior but at 2.5 odds and only 34 percent chance it was more of a lay
than a back

Mr BF- that's 2 out of how many races?????

bf, stop spraying your spunk over people's threads, cheers me old china.

Its early days for this form of rating and the next race looks out of kilter to the odds
but lets observe and see what unfolds.

Southwell is the most difficult of tracks to master as the preference is for course specalists

3:15 »	points
Thunderball	25
Gouray Girl	23
Chookie Royale	19

Hey if I were doing that and Frankel you would be trying to bottle it

got 2 excuses in early there

Oh yes its a real walnut Southwell!

Please give us the rest for the afn then, something to follow on an incredibly dull day. I'm not knocking you, stats for Wolves are great though do wonder whether form holds better there than other aw tracks.

May be worth a laugh later

3:15 »	points	Result
Thunderball	25
Gouray Girl	23
Chookie Royale	19
3:50 »	points	Result
Tartan Jura	77
Kazbow	11
Inside Knowledge	7
4:20 »	points	Result
Roland	40
Gebayl	23
Krupskaya	22
4:50	points	Result
Rano Pano	55
Torero	18
Goldmadchen	13

Ta.

Tartan Jura            77   % bet of the day , jump on at evens

If it was turf Thuderball and Gouray Girl would of done much better and if Kemp, Lin , Wolves
Chookie Royale would be prefered so surface prefernce is a big Key to ratings and its early
days for this system but Tartan Jura looks very good today.

what good is 'if it were turf' when it's not turf? 

Southwell compounds the problem of surface difference and Lingfield is the best surface and closest to turf runs!

Takes a good un to tackle Southwell!

Looking at My new ratings at Southwell it horses with 50 or more points that seem to be profitable
and the reason why very few outsiders ever win at this course.

Rano Pano(55%) is worth a bet IMO as its gone ok at southwell in the past, has won recently, well weighted and after a recent
Hurdle spin will have bags of stamina to grind these down and its 10/1 at the moment

2nd rated beat Tartan Jura

Looked fat, what on earth is Johnson doing (or not) at the mo?

bf fanatic,

When you see the term 'best betting systems' please try to remember its not all about you!

You sound like Brimhardon on steroids!