50 BOOKMAKERS TURN UP AT WETHERBY

if you paid the marketing fee u gotta get ur moneys worth

Id have had a £1 with each

Only forty nine & a half there though adge after the fourth.Got the beer money for tonight & bailed out.That was a cold shift!

SORRY ADGE...BUT RR IS RIGHT, THE ONEROUS MARKETING FEE IS OBLIGING BOOKMAKERS TO TURN UP.

correct mugbookie


was there any late withdrawels today like in the last at catterick yesterday ?

and was there enough business for the 49 and a half allpoints and adge?

Mug - Serves them right the powers that be thought it would deter bookmakers as Fact has said b4..... they are spewing more books than ever turning up

RR - I WONDER HOW MANY WERE USING MORE THAN ONE PITCH ?

Was your Schedule Y fully operational Adge ? If so that could have been a reduction of one if regs. were as they should be !!!

Was your Schedule Y fully operational Adge ? If so that could have been a reduction of one if regs. were as they should be !!!

tad
You'll know the answer to that the same way as adge & myself know.

Ooops I'm trying to make it 48 !

yes , there were some doubles and a treble but my pick 10 was vacant , democrat

Pleased to hear it. Hope you had a good day.

AN INDIVIDUAL USING THREE PITCHES AT A MINOR MEETING IN FEBRUARY.......

mugbookie

catterick was amuseing yesterday,in the last they pulled the 2nd fav out around 20mins before the race,around 1/2 the led boards were given a break for 5 mins till the machine updated.

jimnast

Serious question 50 books at Wetherby today how many could price up without a machine.

ronnie do you mean be first up with there own tissue ?

jimnast

Years ago when I used to unsuccessfully bet on the spreads I was always a seller, if we had a market of people putting their tissues up first I would be a very heavy seller at 6 to 8, do u think I would have made a few quid.

Adge, making a book in february, are you not well! this must be contrary to the A.P. rule book.

JIMNAST - ARE YOU REALLY SURPRISED ?

RONNIE - I ADMIT THAT THESE DAYS I COULD NOT PRICE A RACE FROM SCRATCH AND BE CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO PUT THEM ON THE BOARD......BUT HOW MANY COULD ?

lol ronnie at 6 i would be a heavier seller than you.


i think a couple could have a go,but i would only fancy one to be able to price up all day without any exchanges in view for anybody,if like the old days the staff from the other books waited for his show they would be f....d on charlie hall and boxing day because he wouldnt get on.

mugbookie

i was a little surprised there was only 5 runners you would have thought they could have had a go they had the show before the horse was withdrawn.

ronnie re the spreads i to was very unsuccesful at that game,in fact ive yet to meet anybody who could make that pay.

JIMNAST - ITS A BIT LIKE BETTING WITHOUT - HOW MANY COULD WORK OUT THE PRICES WITHOUT USING THE MACHINE ? REMEMBER GILLIBRAND......A WITHOUT MASTER AT WORK....OFTEN WITH HIS OWN TISSUE.

mugbookie

in my first years of going racing i would stand and watch gillie an absoulute master,betting without but better still betting on the photo.

sht head 1/2
head 4/6
neck evens
1/2 length 3/1
dead heat 3/1

fantastic

that betting without i think you have to do that all the time or not at all.

mugbookie

Gillibrand there’s a blast from the past, betting on the photo evens a dead heat 4 to 5 a short head, evens a head, 4 to 6 a neck, official result wins by half a length, now I'm definitely showing my age.

Signing of now lads as the other half’s threatening to half my length and I have a full and exiting day at Korals tomorrow, don’t forget never a quarrel forget Koral.

JIMNAST - ONE OF THE TRUE MASTERS OF THE BETTING RING...SADLY MISSED.....HE'D HAVE PUT A FEW TO SHAME THESE DAYS.

NIGHT RONNIE - AT LEAST TRY TO ENJOY YOUR SHIFT

agree jimnast only works at a few tracks imo and more often than not its better with a short un in the race and if its nh .....believe me we have tried it and its hard work although a betting too a better percentage ...remember ronnie and sam dempster made a living for yrs up here in the north and scotland ?

mugbookie

heres a nice story about gillie

a friend of mine had an sp office and did quite a bit of phone buissness with a few strong backers,he also did a bit of private laying at the course so was pretty well known to the books back then,in 81 at the festival he layed a big treble i use to remember the first two i cant now but the 3rd was little owl in the gold cup,so news got around about this bet now my pal did plenty on the bet but nowhere near as much as the punter won,but that was unknown to gillie who sent him a blank cheque with a note saying this is to help you out if you need any help settle up when things pick up.

good night ronnie i posted he went 3s the dead heat christ he bet even better than i thought.

dave i think to make it work you have to be good on the stool aswell as the modern day punters havnt got a clue what you have on the board especially in the summer.

hell yeah jimnast ya cant just stand quietly and hope to take money ... you have to educate and bully them at the same time .nigh on impossible south of the trent and too many six the field races in the summer !!

JIMNAST - ANOTHER STORY ABOUT GILLIE...WHEN HE WAS A YOUNG FELLA,HE GOT TO WORK ONE OF THESE 'CAN YOU KNOCK THE CANS DOWN WITH THREE THROWS' TYPE OF STALLS IN BLACKPOOL....HIS BANTER WAS THAT GOOD , HE WORKED SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND REFUSED THE OFFER OF ANY BREAKS HE WAS MAKING THAT MUCH MONEY !

he would be good at that.

All nice stories about Gillie but in the end he topped himself.

not through being short of dough though . medication played a big part

DONEITTHERE, He never got over laying me evens over 15 lengths in a two horse

chase at Carlisle, he was chocking as he weighed me in reckoned he had been stitched up.

a mate of mine asked for £200 quid on one he had up at 10/1 without the fav at sedgefield one day
he said he would take a £100 my mate said he if could't have it all he didn't want it so he took it all
it won about 10 lengths he was coughing and spluttering that day as well wee ek

It seems this marketing fee is to blame for everything,a few weeks ago it was going to kill off the high numbers now it's the marketing fee's fault that they are all turning up!
Make your minds up ffs!

everybody needs to blame someone or something , ribero1
as this is the first year that i've actually been in this country at this time of the year since 1970 i'm certainly learning as to how much i've been missing out on over the last 42 years . has become quite an eye opener

Indeed adge!

A pal of mine used to work for Gilly , said you'd have been happy enough copping for his sleepers , and the amount of sleepers from the 4th/5th placed horse would have paid his mortgage twice over !!!!!
  The man was what the game now misses a proper character with flair and his own spiel.

headlice, you are right, with the best will in the world towards those guys who work the courses, visiting racecourses

these days is like entering a mortuary and the vast majority of bookies and their staff wander around like zombies, sad.

ADGE - "everybody needs to blame somebody" ? I think its fair to say the ring was working perfectly well until: THE INTRODUCTION OF EXCHANGE USE - DISASTER , MULTIPLE PITCHES - JUST PLAIN GREED ,MULTIPLE SCHEDULE Y - DEVISIVE , PITCH RENTING - STUPIDITY , PITCH LINKING - ENABLING THE BLIND TO LEAD THE BLIND.....ETC..ETC.......WE HAVE ONLY OURSELVES TO BLAME !!!

HERE'S A VIDEO OF ONCOURSE BOOKIES WHEN THE EXCHANGE GOES DOWN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0EBIZahkig

Dont post very often but seeing Gillies name mentioned i can remember when he started betting straight then when the N.J.P.C took over his seniority took him into to the key pitches and remember his words what a mug he had been betting without a great character and a blast from the past i wonder what he would have thought about the game today

The days when you would have a q and they would be fighting to get on