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Ive seen this but thanks for posting
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Nothing professional about his methods, lump on odds on shots and pray.
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i think this was the early days
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it has to be
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True, but totally reckless, no plan, the proverbial gambler, two flies up a wall.
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Nobody only Harry Findlay knows how or why he picks his bets. But I do know from meeting him annually at Clonmel Festival, which is on next week incidentally, the man is a proper gent.
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Not so much a documentary as someone following him round with a camera. No narrative.
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Tober, not in doubt as to him being an absolute gent, always been a likeable bloke, think people would need to look at themselves if they find fault in Harry, but certainly in his early days and those captured in the film, he was as I described above.
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Going to check this out later. Thanks for posting.
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Rather than looking at the betting style (not for me) i could not help but strangely admire his courage. Those of you that do and have punted for a living, will understand the horrible constant pressure and anxieties that go with it. It is mentally draining, what ever your chosen method the swings will come your way, and it is many a players downfall. Seeing all the angles is one thing, but having the metal to still play them when your down requires courage. There is a very fine line between genius and insanity.
Allot of racing boffins will slate him, but what they will never understand is that nerve, is not something you can put in a rating. "I'll make a statement now......"(brilliant! ![]() ) I enjoyed this video, whilst not agreeing with his betting approach, I had to admire the mans courage.Thumbs up Harry. |
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Front, nothing to do with courage, the man is a compulsive gambler, he even says so in the film, admitting he stole from family to feed his habit, like I said above re: betting on two flies, at the end of the film he even has to have a bet to see who pays for the meal, can't help himself, everything was a betting opportunity, but he is still a thoroughly likeable bloke, a lot of the everyday moaners on here, could learn a lot from the way Harry always carried himself, even when losing.
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I'd hav a heart attack an sleep disorders if I bet like him
Takes a diff kind of mindset Nice not working thou |
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a good watch
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Your welcome
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Horse races were in 1997
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thanks AD good video that, perhaps though he was trying to make out he was a compulsive gambler so that bookies would be happy to take his bets.
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You got to like the guy, he's come a long way since those days.
He represents the sins most of you c--nts would'nt have the courage to commit ![]() |
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seems to keep a lower profile these days,anyone know if he still has the involvment at Coventry....was it the dogs he was doing there?
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I thought he was running the place.
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not sure,i just remember he had some sort of involvment there.....hope he's doing ok tbh
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You got to like the guy is bang on the botton Thats Harry
But talking about top gamblers one name ...John Gough time about 1966 any replies and i will give you guys the low down on John |
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Yes, he's still the promoter there. They are trying to change the on course model by having a lower t0te retention. This is a good example for the rest of Greyhound racing and also for horse racing on course market. I think the on course tote markets would be a lot longer with a a low take out. Particularly if you got the off course market involved. Perhaps it's time for them to be brave and go for 5% deductions across the board. Racing could conceivably break away from bookmaker control with this model in the long term.
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http://covdogs.com/
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tyvm stow
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Coventry Greyhound stadium
Please note that our retentions are: Win Pool 14.5% / Place Pool 10%. World Record Lows! “With other tracks taking out almost 30% for themselves, Coventry is quite simply the only greyhound venue where the small punter is allowed to win.” - Harry Findlay, Promoter. |
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Stow judge your spot on
One day One day it will happen |
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Go on then Zipper,tell us about John Gough.
I do know the tv called him The Butterfly at that time but I think they may have mistaken him for "Mort". |
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Didn't John Gough end up going to Australia (?). Remember he had a telephone tipping line once called Goughsguide, long before premium rate lines etc., he had a team of girls in an office up North (Leeds I think) answering the phones. And he had the benefit of an hour-long TV documentary about himself to launch the service. Last I heard about him over 20 years ago he went to Australia.
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BBC report about a guy who runs a tipping service
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/derby/hi/tv_and_radio/newsid_8493000/8493724.stm |
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That deserved a separate thread Gandolf?
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Ok guys one at a time
John Mort Green a ozz guy wrote a book called Come Fly with the Butterfly he came to England as a pro backer he left England a very succesful pro backer the books would not take the size of the bets he would place (So whats new ) same today if you are a losing punter you can be on John Gough was in front of his time the best ive ever seen yes he had a tipping service in Davy Gate York and its was very successful. |
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never been able to work out how the tote could justify taking out over 25% of the various pools.Sadly with baldy fred at the helm theres more prospect of the take out rising than falling.
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Just looked at the write-up and 8 min video Gandalf, agree with Motley01 deserved a seperate thread, that is about Steve-Lewis Hamilton.
"In these times of economic uncertainty, some investors have started to turn their backs on banks and put their money on horses instead. Steve Lewis-Hamilton, from Chesterfield, runs a tips service which sees subscribers pay around £1,000 a year for his meticulously-researched advice on racing." He has about 200 punters paying him £1,000 a year, work that out...... Big money in this tipping game. Don't know much about SLH but seems a nice guy who knows his stuff from the video. But the only guaranteed winner is him. |
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John Gough The BBC made a 30min Documentary about him
Last Of The Big Punters about 1960is its still on file and worth a look |
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back to HF, you have got hand it to the guy for having the kahoonas to put his full bank on a 2's on shot (Ajax to beat Torino in the European cup).
Ok he might have been reckless, but he represents the older brigade who took a proper punt. Not in the same mould as all the traders and arbers of today. His phone conversations in running remind me of myself and my brother in the late nineties and noughties. |
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does harry still bet on the horses or is it back to sports betting
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Must of been doing something right the man, string of horses, paid big dough
for some of em too, everything came from his punting, don't see how you can knock the bloke,a character and a dying breed, which is shame in today's plastic world |
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Worth watching just to see how mental the game can make you, the bloke has/had a serious problem.
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Quite simply a gambler of the old school
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