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Less the 30 FOBT's BUT Berwick’s FOBT's rake in £30m
Less the 30 FOBT's BUT Berwick’s FOBT's rake in £30m
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Once a person smokes their first rock of crack,then they are in serious trouble.
The problem is trying to explain to people that have preconceived ideas about something,that they may be wrong  |
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Banned Banks, an account could be held as a conduit for the purpose of aggregating bets.....otherwise why do bookmakers monitor the opening of multiple accounts.
Your reasoning is flawed. |
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well if you can be bothered reading my 14:11 post then yews i was aware of the nature of the drug. i can assure you though that while it is a very dangerously addictive substance not all those you smoke it become instantly addicted, despite what you might read in the daily mail.
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The problem is trying to explain to people that have preconceived ideas about something,that they may be wrong.
Tell that to, Clive/David/Philip. I'm perfectly happy to be proven wrong, and perfectly prepared to admit so. I suspect Clive/David/Philip, however, comes from a different breed. |
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Some people spend all their money on FOBTS.....their choice and RESPONSIBILITY
Some people spend all their money on Horses/Dogs....etc Some people spend all their money on Drugs inc Alcohol....etc You can't have a namby-pamby state legislating to 'save' these people, they destroy themselves no matter what. |
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big issue , why not legalise drugs then and let people use what they wish ?
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rcing - I agree, prohibition doesn't work so why not legalise and sell at the Chemist's like they used to, perhaps people need to sign a disclaimer or have a Doctor's prescription, alcohol and tobacco kill far more people than other illegal drugs, they are readily available. Doesn't make sense.
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Some people spend all their money on FOBTS.....their choice and RESPONSIBILITY
Some people spend all their money on Horses/Dogs....etc Some people spend all their money on Drugs inc Alcohol....etc You can't have a namby-pamby state legislating to 'save' these people, they destroy themselves no matter what. Some people commit indecent acts with children Some people strap explosives round their bodies Some people kill innocent others and some people talk sense. Shame you're not one of them. |
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Any arguments/opinions on here are drivel when you can't even do basic sums.
For what it's worth. 30m / Berwick constituency population 60,000= £500 per person. That seems like a problem to me. But everyone on here is thick as fook. Yes I am aware of the irony. |
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Yes WFT, but they are harming other people with their illegal actions, slightly different. Not aware FOBT's are illegal or playing them an illegal activity.
If you think FOBT's should be banned, then all betting would surely follow by your arguments? Get real, these people should take RESPONSIBILITY for their OWN actions, nobody forces them to play these machines as far as I am aware? |
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northanlite,what a childish response,as I DON't read the Daily Mail(more ridiculous figments of your imagination),but spent a deal of time in Battersea,where there were many "crack houses".
I repeat that it is a totally stupid comparison between drugs and FOBTs,as there are no substances involved with the machines. Meanwhile it keeps you guys busy,not to mention Anaglogs with his daily mention of another area. I will leave these threads now,as there is no more to be said.Enjoy your silly theories. |
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big issue , my point being that the governmaent make laws to protect the public .
i would agree that the drug laws are some what messed up . if alcohol and cigarettes were invented tommorow , i would seriously doubt that they would be made legal |
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@ MFF so that's £500 turnover per person, lets say a 5% profit thats £25 per person loss, about same as the lottery then I would guess. The £30 million is a nice figure that sounds emotively big, reality is it's not so big a loss in comparison.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like these machines, I lost on them a few bob and more when they first came out, but it was MY CHOICE to do so and when it got out of hand I stopped, I took personal responsibility for my actions. Same as people who do cigarettes, alcohol, it's personal choice to destroy yourself this way if you want to. |
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Yes WFT, but they are harming other people with their illegal actions, slightly different. Not aware FOBT's are illegal or playing them an illegal activity.
You think taking drugs, or drinking alcohol to access, doesn't have an effect on other people ? Tell that to the families of drug users and alcoholics. If you think FOBT's should be banned, then all betting would surely follow by your arguments? Stupid conclusion. I believe FOBTs should be banned in bookmakers because of their addictive nature. Get real, these people should take RESPONSIBILITY for their OWN actions, nobody forces them to play these machines as far as I am aware? I agree people should take responsibility, but some people need protecting from themselves. As a Big Issue salsmane, I thought you might have realised that. |
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salesman even
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big issue , my point being that the governmaent make laws to protect the public .
You would think so, but mostly they are short-term knee jerk reactions to 'hot' issues, not well-thought enforceable legislation or very rarely. I don't know what the answer is, but banning FOBT's won't have any impact whatsoever I am sad to say, money will just go to online betting, other betting, national lottery etc instead, the people 'addicted' to these machines (they are not it's just an excuse they use to devolve themselves from responsibility for their actions) will find whatever way to fulfill their self-destructive desires. |
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Is online betting and gaming more or less addictive than FOBTs?
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THERE SHOULD BE NO GAMBLING WHAT SO EVER AND NO ALCOHOL OR DRUGS WHATS SO EVER .AND THIS WORLD WOULD BE ALOT BETTER PLACE FOE ALL ALL ALL ALL MANKIND
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Yes WFT, but they are harming other people with their illegal actions, slightly different. Not aware FOBT's are illegal or playing them an illegal activity.
You think taking drugs, or drinking alcohol to access, doesn't have an effect on other people ? Tell that to the families of drug users and alcoholics. Unfortunately they do, alcohol is legal though so do you advocate prohibition? Like I say I don't know the answers but prohibiting stuff for the greater good doesn't work. See USA model re Alcohol earlier last century an on-line gambling legislation earlier this. I feel genuinely sad for these people, they need help, perhaps education or support groups are the way, make the FOBT operators pay for this from the profits? |
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YOUR ALL LOOKING AT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING SO YOU HAVE AN EXCUSE TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO ,LOOK AT YOUR SELVES
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Is online betting and gaming more or less addictive than FOBTs?
I can't speak for gaming as that also is for the feckless, but I can say that I owe thanks to the on-line bookmakers for helping me with my "habit" by continuous closing/restricting my accounts. I'm sure the fact that I seem to win a lot is purely coincidental. If I were to play FOBTs would the bookmakers show the same caring attitude ? Yes. I'm off to the bookies now. |
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ITS ALRIGHT TO GAMBLE ONLINE BUT NOT TO GAMBLE ON A MACHINE ,YOU TALK TO SUIT YOUR SELVES
YOUR ALLOWED TO LOSE £100 ON ONLINE GAMBLE BUT DONT DARE LOSE £100 ON ONLINE GAMBLING |
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unbiased, are you saying you spend a lot of time in crack houses in battersea or just a lot of time in battersea? and, "crack houses" by their very nature attract full on crack heads so how is any of that relevant?
give your posts a modicum of thought at least. |
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BUT DONT DARE LOSE £100 ON A MACHINE THAT SHOULD READ ^^^
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i dont know the answer banks and i am surprised that you dont know either .
but it is harder for someone with a gambling problem to hide there activity from family online than it is in a shop |
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YOU CANT DO THIS (LOSE £100 ON THEM ADDICTIVE MACHINES )
BUT YOU CAN( LOSE £100 ON ONLINE GAMBLING ) ITS ALLOWED |
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STOP ALL GAMBLING IS THE ANSWER AND EVERYONE CAN BE FAMILY PEOPLE
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what on earth is the guy with the broken caps lock wittering on about???
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"but it is harder for someone with a gambling problem to hide there activity from family online than it is in a shop "
What possible basis do you have for this statement? For starters there are no stakes and prize limits online, you can use credit cards, and it is available 24 hours a day on your phone, Ipad, Laptop. Rather easier then disappearing down the local bookies for hours on end. |
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what on earth is the guy with the broken caps lock wittering on about???
I'm guessing alcohol, or crack perhaps. If anyone is wondering what I mean by feckless, read his/her posts. |
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GUESS AGAIN YOU GUESSERS
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YOU THINK YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN BET ON ,WHILE YOU NET ON WHAT YOU LIKE AND PARK ON YELLOW LINES WHEN IT SUITS YOU
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what i meant clive , is , someone with a gambling problem would find it hard to sit at home on the laptop and gamble away without his wife/girlfriend seeing what he was doing . where as in a shop there is no one to stop him/her
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YOUR THE TYPE THAT TERLL PEOPLE NOT TO PARK OUTSIDE YOUR GATE BUT PARK IN FRONT OF OTHER PEOPLES GATES WHEN IT SUITS YOU
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do wah is ok imo
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wtf is he on about tho???
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ITS OK IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ,I DIDNT UNDERSTAND HOW A NICE PERSON LIKE ME COULD BE A ALCOHOLIC UNTILL I WENT TO MY FIRST A A MEETING ,BUY BUY TILL THE NEXT TIME
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nee nah nee nah nee nah nee nah nee nah the white van is here in you get old chap i dont know how you got out
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