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Good luck to you Artie
I tend to concentrate on the low grade stuff.I dont think i could keep in front if i wasnt up to date with the form |
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I'm very new to racing considering, only really into it for just under 2 years. I'm down on here, but up overall by a good amount thanks to a couple of big wins.
I personally try to get a field and simply whittle down as many horses who have plenty of negatives. Start with the going, then the distance, then the track (or performances on similar tracks). If I can't take a good chunk of the competitors out of my considerations this way then its probably not worth the effort. From there I have a look at things like trainer form, if the horse has been targeted at that race, and the price. My biggest downfall is my discipline - I'm sure that I'm not the only one. I'm a bit of a nob with staking too, when I take the time to study a race properly and consider everything then I'll be sensible and do small stakes, but when I'm punting stupidly then I inevitably use bigger stakes and lose more. Doing things like keeping records, writing down a little list of staking rules and refraining from chasing or betting "for interest" has been a big help for me recently. But yeah, the most important thing for me is being able to take the majority of horses out of the running. If you can do that well then you've probably got a much smaller chance of being wrong, and, of course, if they're a short price you can get them layed. |
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Purchased ratings. I should have thought of that...
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why dont you ask your advisers to post up their bets each day for a week- of course- no one will!
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thanks for the info guys.
im going to start taking the approach of sticking to saturdays and the big weekends/festivals. mainly as i'll get a slight increase in potetnal value. ie big fields better e/w terms plus its more horse's i'll have seen run at least once before. i dont understand how your ment to have a job and be able to keep up with racehorses just to much average to low end stuff! oh and i have aquired a share in a willie mullins runner so i can focus on the fun that can be had trying to get my 20 quid on at 2-1! |
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OMG...This is a very sad thread!! You're all doomed.
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not often i agree with artie but i completely agree that form is not relevant...the best ratings i know of are those on flatstats which from what i understand ignore form,but pittsburgh phil can confirm that.
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Sam sure if you have a share in one with Willie you should clean up with all the info he'll give you. He is only starting to run the good ones now and he has plenty of them. Come March NH and PN wont know what hits them. Of course you could invite him along for a days fishing on some quiet Monday. You could suggest that he brings that Rich fellow along with him. They could give you all the info you need and you could teach them how to do a bit of good fishing as I imagine youre fairly good at it yourself.
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Supersam
The fact that you bet on higher priced horses means that your definitely in the right place here on Betfair. You appear to have some good skills with regards to finding winners. You will carry on improving those skills over the years. Do not be disheartened by a losing spell. About thirty years ago, when I was a regular Saturday racegoer, I notched up twenty eight losing bets on the trot over the summer before finding a winner at Salisbury. The Relief! I've never forgotten that. For the past ten years I have been a full time Betfarian, the winners are out there. Proably 95% of my betting is done on Irish racing, I feel(know) that this gives me an edge over most. Anyway good luck for the future. PS whats that Mullins horse you have a share in. I'll let you know what i think about the horse. |
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Form is not relevant,are you people for real!
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jesus gig , even you get turned over by THEM , and if you do what chance do mortals have
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The amount of horses that are non triers in comparison to their chances of winning is small,if it isn't then i must be very lucky as i probably get 1/2 rides a month i consider suspect virtually negligible it doesn't even bother me as the % is so small.There are plenty of other non triers but for me they're not trying because they're in the wrong races to begin with,so you have to assume an average punter with limited time to do form will always see more non triers in his eyes in their bets.If there were so many blatant non triers i'd have a nice long shopping list for future reference and thats just not the case,probably one or two a month.There's plenty of cheating in the races,butthey are rarely done with horses that were going to win anyway,personally i wish there more as it's so hard to find value on these cards most days.
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 Wise words from the forums best judge from within an oxygen tent. fanks 4 that Giggsy ysfdc.  |
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I have been trying to win money betting for 50 years and still failing but I lose a very small percentage these days-certainly less than the 5% commission. If you are new to Betfair, beware of the rapidly changing prices on here. I find it irritating to see a price fall by a full point in 30 seconds only to go back up by a point in the next 30 secs. A point difference on all your bets is the difference between profit and loss in a year. I suspect that it is the result of some bots operating behind the scenes but for a newcomer it is a real minefield. I suppose it depends on the sort of horse you select, but 90% of the winners that I back trade at more than SP in the early part of a race so I bet more and more just after the off if I am able to.
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