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pandora1963
02 Dec 12 18:20
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I think not personally. II think racing is dominated by people with views similar to W Haggas , B Hills etc,but if anyone could tell me there are socialist trainers,jocks,owners out there id be very interested.
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Report aberdonia December 2, 2012 6:30 PM GMT
trainers and jockeys are trying to win. well most of the time.  Laugh

Socialists want a 10 horse dead heat.

Cant think why anyone would want to be a bitter, jealous socialist tbh...
Report workrider December 2, 2012 6:42 PM GMT
Laugh
Report salmon spray December 2, 2012 7:43 PM GMT
Phil Bull was extremely left-wing.
Robin Cook who was fairly left-wing was a racing columnist.
Brian Taylor once objected ( successfully ) to a winner for The Queen.
Sir Mark Prescott is a member of the Socialist Workers party.

Can you spot the one I made up ?         Grin
Report comingupthehill December 2, 2012 7:54 PM GMT
jack berry - was a red
Report judorick December 2, 2012 7:56 PM GMT
I've owned race horses since 1990 and I'm a lefty, never had it held against me
Report verbotene liebe December 2, 2012 8:08 PM GMT
Have read anything by Fat Al for a couple of years though he seemed to like to think he was a socialist - no doubt one of the Champagne kind. Paul Haigh clearly held left wing views. Not sure if he was a genuine one or a Champagne one.
Report homefortea December 2, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
Phil Bull Surprised

RoDevilbin Cook.....
Report verbotene liebe December 2, 2012 8:15 PM GMT
'have *not anything by Fat Al for a couple of years'
Report homefortea December 2, 2012 8:17 PM GMT
Fat Al a socialst with a house in the Cotswalds and children to educate (privately)...

No wonder he likes a drink....
Report verbotene liebe December 2, 2012 8:29 PM GMT
I remember when Monet's Garden won one of his Old Roans - Fat Al, instead of attending as a recing journalist should was in the Kop supporting Arsenal. He wrote an report on it in the RP which included something like ' When Fabregas equalised my son jumped up with his hands in the air - i kept silent and still. A man behind tapped me on the shoulder and said, ' don't worry Alastair, we don't hit kids'

What a load of sensationalist cack !
Report comingupthehill December 2, 2012 8:32 PM GMT
left wing people are most welcom in racing - walk into and bookies and they will welcome you with open arms.
Report wildmanfromborneo December 2, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
It's the left wingers that keep the show on the road,they are the ones pumping money into those FOBTs
Report salmon spray December 2, 2012 11:34 PM GMT
Not true.
I was in my local Laddies the other day and saw my MP and Lord Lieutenant of the county Sir Percival Bullivant-Smythe being dragged away kicking and screaming from one of the infernal machines by his minders. They fear for their wages. It was a tragic site.
Report wildmanfromborneo December 2, 2012 11:50 PM GMT
If the left wingers had their way there would be no racing,it's an English tradition and so despised by them.
Report manxy December 3, 2012 12:17 AM GMT
which wing did shearer and owen play on.
Report Happy Valley December 3, 2012 9:42 AM GMT
wildman i don't think that is true at all

if socialists had their way, we'd all be rich and could all afford to have horses in training and the sport would be booming, rather than in the hands of an in-bred minority Happy
Report Outpost December 3, 2012 11:53 AM GMT
I think the majority of owners are probably left wing socialists, while most big owners are right wing.

almost all trainers and bookies are right wing fascists who believe it is their right to rob owners, punters and stable staff so that they can all remain millionaires (a bit like thatcher's fascists did to the people of this country). 

the trainers and bookies have all the money in racing and they don't care who they have to kill to keep it that way. (again a bit like thatcher's government did to this country)
Report salmon spray December 3, 2012 12:20 PM GMT
It`s interesting what is now considered right-wing and what was at one time. Andrew " Bert " Black was one of the founders of this company. Many think his disappearance was the start of the decline of Betfair as a customer-friendly outfit to the faceless corporate robbers they are now perceived as. There might be a bit of truth in that but having read young Mr Black's blog he sounds like a typical 21st century Thatcherite/NuLaborite ( and to an old fogey like me there is little difference.) The point is his grandfather Sir Cyril Black,whom I vaguely remember, was seen as a right-wing Tory MP. BUT he was pre-Thatcher so his right-wingness wasn't quite the same. My memories of him are as an authoritarian upholder of obscenity laws frothing at the mouth at the publication of " Lady Chatterley's Lover " and also at early TV satire such as  " That Was The Week That Was "  But his views were not so much what we now think of as political but were mainly driven by his evangelical Christian beliefs. As such he was one of the fiercest critics of his own government's liberalisation of gambling ( the introduction of betting shops ). I imagine he saw horse racing as the work of the devil. Ironic innit.
Report posy December 3, 2012 12:45 PM GMT
Well the Handicappers are obviously raging socialists as they don't like winners and losers and try to fix it that all the horses dead heat
Report workrider December 3, 2012 1:03 PM GMT
paul haigh gave up his job as a journalist because of his belief , one of the few lefties who actually walked the walk ....i say fair play to the man ..one of the few to walk away from the gravy train....
Report manxy December 3, 2012 2:13 PM GMT
depends hether they are swapping trains donnit
Report northanlite December 3, 2012 2:55 PM GMT
most trainers would happily train for trotsky if they thought he would pay his fees
Report aji December 3, 2012 5:16 PM GMT
left wing people are not welcome anywhere :)
Report Happy Valley December 3, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
aji i am having supper tomorrow night with a very right-wing trainer and a right wing ex jumps jockey, they welcome this left winger with open arms and vice-versa

my trainer in the uk is a Tory councillor yet for me, on a personal level, you couldn't meet a more socialist person
Report Happy Valley December 3, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
Outpost you are not wrong, imo!
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