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By:
onlooker
When: 05 Dec 13 21:32
NOT entirely a 'Blooper'   - in the theme of this thread -

But - An ERROR/OMISSION on the Database.

So, posted here, for information to readers
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Wrong - Official Rating 'RAN OFF'
Because - NO PENALTY added
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* In the interest of fairness ...

- I have to be point out that sportinglife.com have made the SAME mistake  - AND, Also continually, and without exception, make an identical error/OMISSION - for EVERY HORSE that carries a PENALTY - in their RESULTS - and, consequently, Also in their - sportinglife.com  - HORSE LIFETIME History Record

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NO PENALTY added to GIVE US A BELLE - for previous success ...

Rather ridiculously - BOTH Races, involved, had the SAME Race TITLE - with BOTH races being run over the SAME distance Cry - and on consecutive days, at the SAME Racecourse..... STREWTH ! Sad

- and just to compound that nonsense - The Races were DIVIDED on BOTH days ... and GIVE US A BELLE ran in the SAME Division (II)  on BOTH days, too.CryHappy

A somewhat sloppy, and undoubtedly INATTENTIVE, 'effort' Cry though - by those responsible for Framing the two day's Races - it has to be said.

In essence - those responsible, for that senseless scenario ....should NOT be running the show'. Sad
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Wolverhampton (AW) Result
26 Nov 2013
« 4:20 » Compare Bookmakers At bookmakers.co.uk Handicap (Div II)

    (Class 6) (0-52, 3yo+) (5f20y) 5f Standard
   
« 1st 3 Iffranesia (FR) 7/2 3 9-7 p Robert Cowell 52 Martin Lane
     
« 2nd 6 ½ Give Us A Belle (IRE) 5/4F 4 9-0 tv Christine Dunnett (Official Rating 'RAN OFF') 46 Eoin Walsh7
     
« 3rd 2 3¾ Vhujon (IRE) 20/1 8 8-12 oh1 Peter Grayson 46 Slade O'Hara3

* Note -  For clarity  -
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GIVE US A BELLE's rider CLAIMED 7 lb -

Any Rider's CLAIM is ALWAYS DEDUCTED from the RACECARD weight in RacingPost Results - thus showing the ACTUAL Weight CARRIED .... Quite correctly, in my view.

Whereas - sportinglife.com - do NOT Deduct a Rider's CLAIM from the Weight shown in their Results.

Therefore - The RACECARD weight was 9st 7lb - including a 6 lb PENALTY - the same Weight as the Winner, Iffranesia, carried - equating to an OFFICIAL Rating 'RAN OFF' of 52 for BOTH horses. ...

- and, incidentally, that 52 being the OFFICIAL Rating that GIVE US A BELLE, subsequently, 'RAN OFF', again, today - when carrying a SAME 6 lb Penalty - for the Win on November 25th....

'Penalties after November 23rd, each race won 6 lb'
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Result for the Day BEFORE ....
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Wolverhampton (AW) Result
25 Nov 2013
« 2:30 » Compare Bookmakers At bookmakers.co.uk Handicap (Div II)

    (Class 6) (0-60, 3yo+) (5f20y) 5f Standard
   
« 1st 8 Give Us A Belle (IRE) 8/1 4 8-7 tv Christine Dunnett (Official Rating 'RAN OFF') 46 Adam Beschizza
     
« 2nd 2 2¾ Steelcut 5/1 9 9-6 v Mark Buckley 59 Martin Dwyer

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In the TOP race - the race(BEFORE TODAY's race) ...

GIVE US A BELLE - had WON the Day BEFORE Nov 25th - and, therefore carried a 6 lb PENALTY - which is NOT Shown on the RESULT - nor, is it  included in the OFFICIAL Rating 'RAN OFF' - which should read 52 - and NOT the 46 shown.

Consequently - the Lifetime Horse History Record -

- for GIVE US A BELLE  - ALSO shows 46 for BOTH races ...

26 Nov 13 Wol 5St C6Hc 1K 9-0 2/8 (½L Iffranesia 9-7) tv 5/4F Eoin Walsh 46 51 60

25 Nov 13 Wol 5St C6Hc 1K 8-7 1/9 (2¾L Steelcut 9-6) tv 8/1 Adam Beschizza 46 50 57

26th November - should read 52
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By:
noidea
When: 10 Dec 13 09:28
Colonel Iain: Impressive in beating a subsequent winner in an open maiden point at Horseheath in March 2012 (on good to firm) and joined a good yard to embark on rules career; still hard to envisage him troubling African Gold.

"Joined a good yard" Doubt whether he's even moved boxes!
By:
ged
When: 10 Dec 13 10:13
THURLOW, HORSEHEATH, SATURDAY FEBRUARY 26
Going: Good To Firm (Good in places)

"Trainer John Ferguson, from Cowlinge, near Newmarket, dominated the Thurlow Point-To-Point at Horseheath on Saturday, notching three victories and two second places from his five runners."

...

"And Colonel Iain, named after Ferguson’s father, broke his duck in smooth fashion in the concluding Maiden Race."
By:
ged
When: 10 Dec 13 10:23
...buit then a slightly different impression...

"The treble was reached in the final race of the day, the Open Maiden, when Colonel Iain, under strong driving from James Owen, took the lead up the final hill to win by six lengths from the 6-4 favourite Empire Builder."
By:
ged
When: 10 Dec 13 10:25
...that last report was from the Haverhill Echo.
By:
startedOct2000stillgoingstrong
When: 18 Dec 13 15:30
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By:
onlooker
When: 18 Dec 13 15:44
Montana Belle: 25,000gns yearling who was beaten around 4l when third on debut at Warwick (1m6f, good to soft; 6-1) last month; that form sets the standard today (in conjunction with May Hay) and there´s stamina in her attractive pedigree, so this step up in trip should suit; appealing claims with Tony McCoy booked.

TODAY - Winner £1,711 14 runners 1m4f 110y Soft RUK

May Hay: Kept on for a 5l third on last month´s debut at Towcester (1m5f, good to soft; 10-1); there are some interesting newcomers in opposition but this one sets the form standard (in conjunction with Montana Belle) and she could improve for the step up in trip; trainer´s Flat team in good form.

TODAY - Winner £1,711 14 runners 1m4f 110y Soft RUK
By:
startedOct2000stillgoingstrong
When: 18 Dec 13 15:51
this thread would be an all time classic if the forum wasnt such a wasteland these days.
By:
One Nation
When: 19 Dec 13 08:40
Stone Light at Taunton on the 28th:

Led until 6th, kept pressing leader, ridden and very chance before 2 out, soon held, kept on same pace (op 11/4)
By:
parispike
When: 19 Dec 13 10:20
«    3    42      Ace Fighter Pilot 16/1    7    10-8     Jim Best    127    86           
Tom Scudamore
   
Made most to 7th, led again approaching 9th, headed 11th, weakened 14th but stage on for poor 3rd run-in (op 12/1)
By:
Stevie Gerrard
When: 19 Dec 13 20:09
Helmsley Flyer: Six-race maiden who showed some improvement when upped in trip and switched to handicaps during the summer, his best effort when fourth of 16 at Redcar (1m6f) in May off today´s mark; absent since and unraced on Fibresand but probably remains capable of better.


26Mar13       Sth 8St C53yMd 2K    9-5    3/5
By:
ged
When: 20 Dec 13 10:42
Kempton 7.00 last night..

"Corporal Maddox virtually hung through the inside rail and it´s hoped nothing was amiss."


What was amiss was George Baker's whip. He dropped it and couldn't do anything to correct the horse. Probably a good advert for a jockey needing to carry one.
By:
parispike
When: 06 Jan 14 14:21
Southwell latest: Facourite backers smiling - at last
By:
tomhunt
When: 11 Jan 14 15:24
Richard Lee, trainer of Ravens Brook: "He´s a better chaser than a hurdler and we´ll look to get him out before the handicapper catches up with him. He´snot had a hard race and the heavy ground is important to him."
By:
noidea
When: 22 Jan 14 10:02
Do they know something we don't?

Morcambe
Race record
9-y-o (01Jan05 b g)
Bollin Eric  (11.7f) — Lunabelle (Idiots Delight  (15.1f))
Trainer Dido Cotton
Owner S C Cotton
Breeder Exors Of The Late Queen Elizabeth
By:
parispike
When: 22 Jan 14 11:42
A marathon test in desperately testing conditions and it produced a slow-motion finish with the rank outsider, EMMA SODA getting up on the run-in to gain the first win of her career.

The result was impossible to predict on form, but the 8yo mare clearly stays all day and found just enough to see off the legless runner-up. Having reportedly bled and pulled up on her chasing debut over an extended 3m here just 26 days previously, she was seen to much better effect on this occasion, although the formshould be treated with serious caution with two of the chef threats appearing to run a long way below their best.

chef threats?? Jamie Oliver, Delia Smith?
By:
The Chicken
When: 22 Jan 14 13:29
"Breeder Exors Of The Late Queen Elizabeth"

Er...that's the Queen Mum.

Do we need a Rancid Post Bloopers Bloopers thread?
By:
One Nation
When: 22 Jan 14 13:34
She wasn't Queen?

I'd say it refers to Elizabeth I !
By:
parispike
When: 29 Jan 14 20:42
Tagrita impressively won a mares´ maiden point in Ireland, not one without some substance,

I assume that "impressively won a mares´ maiden point in Ireland, one not without some substance," what was was actually meant!

Oh and BF please teach your staff the difference between "effect" and "affect".....

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By:
parispike
When: 31 Jan 14 22:40
The best ever !!

This (Newbury 12.45, 28/12/2013) modest novice handicap was run at a fair gallop and there was a fairly tight finish from three out, but none could get past SAROQUE in the home straight as he handed connections a quick double.

The winner was just picked off from the front onhis chasing debut last time out, when he made mistakes, and was again a bit sticky at times here. However, he got a freebie on the lead and the extra distance played right into his hands when the pressure was on around two out. The handicapper will have his say, but he´s a sizeable individual and should rate higher as a chaser.

The hat-trick-seeking Glen Countess travelled well into the home straight and had her chance, but couldn´t live with the winner when that rival found top gear. The handicapper probably just has her measure now, but she remains in good heart.

Ultimatum Du Roy looked a big player jumping the third-last. However, he failed to pick up for maximum pressure and perhaps the demanding surface up in trip found him out.

Ballylifen had Tony McCoy aboard yet still went in snatches and failed to raise his game back down in trip. He remains a maiden.

Restless Harry has to rate as unfortunate and must be given another chance.[Dave Orton]

Restless Harry was in the 1.15!!!

ffs!!
By:
onlooker
When: 01 Feb 14 14:09
2:05    

Burns Pet Nutrition Welsh Champion Hurdle (Limited Handicap) (CLASS 2) (4yo+) Winner £31,280 7 runners 2m4f Heavy CH4

Race Conditions: £50,000 guaranteed For 4yo+ Weights highest weight 11st 10lb Minimum weight 1-4
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1st 4lbs - that will need more than half-an-hour in the Sauna.

To be fair -

This will, more than likely, be an Output Error from Weatherbys  - as it is the same in the WEEKENDER, aswell ...

However  - that still means that they have had 5 days - since Monday - before going to Press last night, to spot it.
By:
One Nation
When: 14 Feb 14 22:19
Kuilsriver: Made most for 33-1 win in this race under Thomas Garner last year (4lb higher today) on soft, unraced on heavy; then off until December when unseating early on chase debut; AW debut (first-time visor) perhaps to blame for a tailed-off run in jumpers bumper two weeks ago, but has wellbeing to prove.
................................

Chase debut was before he won this race last year, and he didn't unseat early!
By:
One Nation
When: 16 Feb 14 15:56
BY TOM KERR 2:15PM 16 FEB 2014

Report: Navan, Sunday

Ladbrokes Boyne Hurdle (Grade 2) 5yo+, 2m5f

ALMOST three years to the day since his last win, Dunguib put his injury problems firmly behind him as he swaggered to a six-length victory at Navan to tee up his first run at the Cheltenham Festival since finishing third as an odds-on favourite in the 2010 Supreme Novices'.

...............................................................................

Obviously didn't watch the Champion Hurdle 2011.
By:
parispike
When: 16 Feb 14 21:25
Where's Brucie when you need him?
By:
parispike
When: 18 Feb 14 11:48
The latest "upgrade" . Inverted commas used advisedly.
By:
onlooker
When: 23 Feb 14 17:19
E2,500 F (private) fifth foal; half-brother to point/3m hurdle winner Let The Show Begin; dam unraced half-brother to bumper/2m4f-3m2f hurdle/chase winner Dusky Bob and 2m4f-2m7f hurdle winner Hotterthanjuly out of half-sister to smart Stormyfairweather
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dam unraced half-brother

'ooh err - missus' - a transgender horse. Grin
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 25 Feb 14 14:20
2-20 Catterick betting

5-6 Dursey Sound, 11-4 Bit of a Jig

The lazy cants have taken the non runner out but left the betting the same.
By:
parispike
When: 25 Feb 14 14:25
Perhaps one of their "betting partners" will let me bet at those prices....
By:
Virgin
When: 26 Feb 14 16:23
4.20 Winc

RP Diomed verdict

DORRY K put a low-key spell behind her when winning a hands-and-heels race on her handicap debut for her new yard at Warwick on Friday and she should have a decent chance of following up without a penalty. It may not be that simple on this quick return but she has less weight to carry this time (an advantage given her lack of size) and she did win in quite convincing style.

10-6 lto

10-6 today
By:
onlooker
When: 26 Feb 14 17:32
^
It would appear, that the SPOTLIGHT writer - apparently does NOT KNOW how the Employer's own WEBSITE works.

Obviously taken that, quoted, WEIGHT comparison from DORY K's Lifetime FORM[b]display - reproduced below - which shows the runner-up, in Dory K's Warwick race as ... (1¾L Lost In Newyork 10-10)

DATE     RACE CONDITIONS    WGT     RACE OUTCOME                             JOCKEY  OR TS RPR
21Feb14  War 16Sft C5HcH 1K  10-6  1/13 [b](1¾L Lost In Newyork 10-10)
16/1  Jack Sherwood 80 78 86

The 10-10 being the Weight that, runner=up, LOST IN NEWYORK carried - and NOT DORY K.

Result ...

1 Dorry K (IRE) 16/1     510-6  Jim Best 80 78 86 Jack Sherwood
   
2 1¾  Lost In Newyork (IRE) 11/4F 7 10-10 Nick Kent 84 80 87 Charlie Deutsch
By:
Virgin
When: 26 Feb 14 18:32
Or he's just crazy Crazy
By:
VennOttery1981
When: 26 Feb 14 21:44
Bangor

Mudita Moment seemed likely to defy another 5lb rise and bag a four-timer leaving the back straight. His recent spell caught up with him in between the final two flights, however, and he now looks as though a break is on order. His jumping going this way around also suggested he´s happier on left-handed courses.

Jumped right most of way, led 4th, ridden approaching 2 out where about 2 lengths down, joined last, soon headed, kept on under pressure run-in (tchd Evens)
By:
tomhunt
When: 28 Mar 14 19:17
09Nov13 Doncaster   ( 6 Sft ,RPR119 )
He´s a superstar. It didn´t matter that the door shut on him. I should have ridden him with more balls and sat on him longer - I got there too soon. Massive credit to the horse. Graham Lee, trainer
By:
onlooker
When: 06 Apr 14 16:08
Grand National: Guitar's final flourish enough in Grade 1 5:00pm 3 Apr 2014
Grand National: Warne makes all in Fox Hunters' Chase 4:25pm 3 Apr 2014
Grand National: New One made to fight for narrow success 3:13pm 3 Apr 2014
Grand National: Conti stays on best in Betfred Bowl Chase 2:40pm 3 Apr 2014
Grand National: Ma Filleule flies to easy Topham win 3:48pm 4 Apr 2014
Grand National: Holywell dominant in Mildmay triumph 2:01pm 4 Apr 2014
Grand National: Whisper sees off Cross challenge 2:57pm 5 Apr 2014
Grand National: Balder hands King more success 2:00pm 5 Apr 2014
Grand National: McCoy stars on Lac Fontana in Mersey 1:35pm 5 Apr 2014

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We know what they mean - But ...

That style of presentation is not only a MISNOMER - But ...
- also, potentially confusing to the Casual, new, or novice reader -
- aswell as being somewhat insulting to the initiated and subscribing aficionados.
By:
Jezebel
When: 07 Apr 14 14:43
Just to clear up, (very) belatedly, the Queen Elizabeth thing - I believe the RP gets its racing name styles from Weatherbys, and there will have been clear instructions from the royal family as to what those name styles should be, so that will be correct according to some archaic Debretts-type etiquette rule.

Agree onlooker; there's no reason it couldn't simply say "Aintree".
By:
parispike
When: 12 Apr 14 11:47
Shubaat ran a perculiar race, finding disappointingly little when asked for his effort and then staying on late when the race was all but over. He'll probably find more opportunities, but this was a little disappointing.
By:
parispike
When: 12 Apr 14 11:50
There was a reference yesterday (by one R Birch) to Module having a "stomach ache" causing the horse to be withdrawn from a race at Aintree.

I have never heard anyone in the equine field refer to a stomach ache when what the horse has is colic- a very serious, potentially fatal, affliction.

Dumbing down or ignorant?
By:
kevo
When: 12 Apr 14 12:27
A week after winning the Grand National Leighton Aspell will not be riding at Bangor today after falling at UTTOXETER (Friday).
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 12 Apr 14 15:17
Scottish grand national(pg72) -DRAW ADVANTAGE: STRONG LOW Laugh
By:
parispike
When: 12 Apr 14 15:28
^^

Classic!
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