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So much for an open market

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By:
saddo
When: 29 Nov 12 11:30
Albania is fine, I think.
By:
ylbode123
When: 29 Nov 12 11:34
in the netherlands for sure
By:
Sigge
When: 29 Nov 12 11:38
Sweden is fine.
By:
zilzal1
When: 29 Nov 12 11:47
So this "Free market" only applies in certain areas?? All the warm places seem to be banning itLaugh
By:
saddo
When: 29 Nov 12 11:51
Aye, shark nets in warmer waters.
By:
cyprusal
When: 29 Nov 12 11:53
cyprus is a nice place to be on betfair and they wont be banning it
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 30 Nov 12 06:03
Don't bet on it cyprusal ....

The company has lodged a complaint with the European Commission arguing that legislation passed in July is discriminatory and disproportionate. Martin Cruddace, chief legal and regulatory officer at Betfair, said: “Having played a constructive role in the preparatory phase of a draft Cypriot law, we were disappointed with the inclusion of elements within it which could unfairly discriminate Betfair and in any event are clearly incompatible with EU law.”

The new law restricts the ability of betting exchanges, such as Betfair, which operate by allowing punters to bet against each other, creating their own odds rather than a market created by a bookie.

The Cypriot government has argued that the new legislation is needed to combat money laundering and match-fixing. Betfair has countered it will do no such thing, describing the concerns as “unfounded and misinformed” and accusing the government of producing no evidence to back up its claims.

“Betfair is a transparent and responsible operator, with a track record of working co-operatively alongside governments in any jurisdiction in which it operates,” Mr Cruddace said. “Current Cypriot law goes against European free-market principles and we look forward to working with the commission and the Cypriot government so we can continue to provide our Cypriot customers with Betfair’s best-in-class Exchange product and odds value.”

A source close to the company said Betfair was determined to fight the ruling as it felt it was discriminatory given the fact the company’s main competitor in Cyprus, OPAP, would not be affected by the new law. Betfair continues to operate in the country while it appeals against the decision by Cyprus to the EC. The new legislation will have to go back to the Cyprus parliament before it comes into law.
By:
Tallywagger.
When: 30 Nov 12 09:26
The new legislation will have to go back to the Cyprus parliament before it comes into law.

Should be OK for ar least another five years then Laugh
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 10:18
Yet again the above struggle by the Betfair company to be allowed to operate freely while another type
of gambling format or company or companies has supreme control over the political decision making processes it
seems alway sin their favor , or freedoms to operate .
So much for the European dream that allows for a better Europe when in reality it burdens member states
with over regulation and then"kicks the crutches away" from countries that cant tow the line
over interest payments while the German bank and economy grows stronger every day at a rate that
cant be matched by its so called equals within Europe.

Hard times for some with restrictions and great times for others does not underline
either a free world nor a free market
IMVHO.....
By:
liam the lips
When: 30 Nov 12 10:23
France was frustrating this summer Plain
By:
liam the lips
When: 30 Nov 12 10:25
Tenerife fine tho
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 10:27
Australia is controlled by its own Horse racing body always to be in its favor


The Australian goverment in its wisdom has decided that a sporting exchange
is actually a traditinal bookmaker and can survive by paying a fixed
amount of betting turnover that can in reality  damage completly
the livihood of an exchange unfairly againts advanteaged other companies.

America is controlled by its casino giants and all gambling legislation
always goes in the connected companies favor.


No company can operate
from outside the USA and let US citizens place a single dollar while
888 , a part of a casino giant has won exclusive rights to have
gambling in certain states over the internet.
By:
racingstar
When: 30 Nov 12 10:29
Nevertheless,you can understand Countries taking the view that they would rather take the profits than BF.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 10:29
2 countries with bigot type behavior and many more exist out there as we all know!
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 10:31
How do you inerpret the actions of Govermants as the views of the coutries
or its peoples?

When did this fine destinction of freedom of choice ever get passed ?
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 10:34
BF is the only socail betting company in the world that florishes, but it is treated like
Facebook is in China!
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 10:35
Most countries in the World harp on about free markets and a free world but live in
fear of losing control by its peoples, a fact of life!
By:
GladysCrackingtackle
When: 30 Nov 12 10:37
Is Portugal OK?
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 10:40
is Portugal EU?
By:
GandalfTheGrey
When: 30 Nov 12 10:44
Bf, take your medication.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 10:45
Spoken like a true bigot Gandalf...
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 10:46
Gandalf take your reality check!
By:
NOW WE KNOW
When: 30 Nov 12 10:56
With some imagination Betfair is available everywhere. It really is amazing that an innovative company like Betfair is banned yet these countries promote huge state takeout racing options and various non skilled, high take out lotteries. That is why Europe is on the brink of collapse.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 11:07
Quite correct NOW WE KNOW.

The Euro has burdened many countries to trade at a loss with its customers and now no one wants
to go to Spain or other countries on holiday as when your cash gets turned into Euros its worthless
compared to its real value within that countries economy...
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 11:08
The Nothern European coutries have too tight a grip on the abilty to keep with the Euro
at Southern Europes loss!
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 11:09
THe Euro will prove to be a very stupid idea one day!
By:
GandalfTheGrey
When: 30 Nov 12 11:12
Says a mental case who lies cheats and tried to flog duff info to people.
By:
onlooker
When: 30 Nov 12 11:55
liam the lips     30 Nov 12 10:25 
Tenerife fine tho
-------------------

? - There have been MANY threads on here - since the Legislation changed in  June -
Saying that  ..... the Betfair EXCHANGE is unavailable in both Spain and the CANARIES Islands.
By:
wallis
When: 30 Nov 12 12:51
turkey is ok
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 12:56
Gandalf if you think I either have anything to "SELL" or would do if I had when I would use my own information
or that I haven't given free advice thats been profitable, then it is you that is dispositional and should
retire from preaching off the top of your orange box!
By:
GandalfTheGrey
When: 30 Nov 12 13:08
More lies, don't you remember your "contact me for my terms" post, and anybody backing your selections, those that weren't aftertimed would be in the red, you're a failure who's a loon and that's all you are along with a lying attention seeker who has attempted to con people. You don't by your own admission back or is this another thing you choose to selectively omit as in above post, you're a loon living in your own fantasy world, if you don't like being reminded of your previous posts that's your problem.
By:
GladysCrackingtackle
When: 30 Nov 12 13:11
Oh dear can you two clear off and talk via Google - nobody else interested.

Now - is Portugal still OK please?
By:
PairOfSuitedAces
When: 30 Nov 12 13:17
""the Betfair EXCHANGE is unavailable in both Spain and the CANARIES Islands.""

It depends whether you have a clue or not Cool
By:
patrick starr
When: 30 Nov 12 13:17
another potentially interesting and useful thread ruined by the forum muck spreader bff,must you trawl up an down this place spraying your sh1te on every thread? ffs,have the day off.
By:
F12HER
When: 30 Nov 12 13:18
Living in the Netherlands, I use a UK IP to watch BBC iPlayer. Could this work for Betfair in banned countries? Obviously you'd need an account in the UK, but if you need to gamble; things should be easy to arrange.
By:
NOW WE KNOW
When: 30 Nov 12 13:20
Every country is available, this has been well covered.
By:
GladysCrackingtackle
When: 30 Nov 12 13:29
Now we Know - fair enough re coverage - but many adults dont come on here nowadays due to the meanderings of the schoolkids and musthaveabets.   Please could you tell me whether Portugal is OK or not?
By:
NOW WE KNOW
When: 30 Nov 12 13:34
I cannot answer the question of legality but you can still access the site and use it. As stated before there are numerous options.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 30 Nov 12 13:39
Patrick "grow up"
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