Gifford and dave dunsdon

schooling session ?

surely 40 days comming up this time

I'm not sure what I just saw!

they got the money there

total non trier

That was unbelievable. If they dont do him for that, they want sacking

That was a complete disgrace of a ride.  I never backed it but would be mighty p1ssed off if I had.  Talk about a gentle school round.  It's a total fcking nonsense.

Not a non trier, just a fetid trainer and jockey with no idea.

A blatant non-trier.

I thought it was just inept until I saw the head on. Disgrace.

Painfull stuff , uk racing today

roo, have you seen the head on?

Totally useless pilot

Seemed to take a pull to stop it getting 3rd??????

If that's him 'all in' how the hell is he not claiming 36lbs?

Thought it looked like there was something wrong with the horse. I'm sure the explanation will be he heard noises coming from the horse and something was up. Looked like he was going to pull it up at one point.

Surely at least a place was there for the taking, in spite of the indifferent jumping!!
Don't worry ATR will pick it up and have a good go!!!

bit like tom kelly

it's not Friday, didn't want a plaice

What about the interview from Gifford beforehand? Only ran in a totally unsuitable race at Newbury just so the owner could watch. Totally unprofessional.

Barton Bank     13 Nov 12 14:10 
roo, have you seen the head on?

No BB but have seen him riding pointers in the SE for a few years i know that hes pretty much incapable of giving one a push and shove, shame on the trainer for putting him up on the stable star.

Why doesn't Cooper get hold of Dunsdon and simply ask him what the fck he was playing at?

Looks worse every time you see it.

I'm with roo; the "jockey" is useless. It was incompetence rather than bEnt

cobblers

The father buys the horses for his son to ride, even though his son is a useless pilot,the dad pays the money,perhaps the authorities could withold his licence or let him ride in Hunter chases only.

Before you go any further to get your licence you have got to pass certain criteria ................. do you honestly think that ride would pass anything?

Lengthy Stewards
Surely they're not going to give him 3rd in the Steward's Room?

Yes. But if they're that bad, surely, they shouldnt be licencing them eh?
Gotta be some sort of point where they say "amateur or not, you cant cut it son"?

Xylophone - Certainly Mr Dunsdon had difficulty passing ANYTHING in that race!!

It's like one of the Glazer's playing up front for Man U. Daddy Dunsdon must hate his son if he's prepared to shell out a fortune to leave junior open to ridicule.

jonjo     13 Nov 12 14:23 
Yes. But if they're that bad, surely, they shouldnt be licencing them eh?
Gotta be some sort of point where they say "amateur or not, you cant cut it son"?


I agree jonjo, ive seeen him give up completely in points on more than one occasion at half way.

It was a shocking effort, no doubt about it,

what was the good one he had about 5 or 6 years ago? Soleil something won a few then ran in the National.

Orse didn't jump according to a steward, all's well then

cooper reckons it run well.....end of the matter.......surprise surprise......

soleil fix, he had that wizards of odds thing that was a right pothouse as well.

paid £200k,plus for Joly Bey.

oh dear ,

dont like betting  the trainer and rich owners son having a ride on their horse

Cooper is so full of sh1t he stinks the whole fcking racecourse out.  Couldn't care fcking less what that t0sspot thinks or says - I know what I saw.

Thought you seemed to be making a bit of a fuss,Pauli so just checked.


Unlucky with todays nap.

Cheers flying.  Good luck with your nap in the 3-00.  At least you've got a decent jock riding for you.

That always helps.

Joly bay use to cruise thru his races and Dunsdon use to sit on it like he was on a bus. could have been a special horse if a jockey had rode it

^So true.

Took keen hold, mistakes, held up in touch in rear, 10 lengths 6th and not pushed on long run after 3 out, mistakes last 2, still not pushed and went for impossible run up inner flat, hampered and switched right final 75yds, never troubled leaders (op 2-1 tchd 11-4)

For all you followers of the website flatstats.

Mr D H Dunsdon Jockey Stats for Flat Turf Horse Racing
www.flatstats.co.uk/jockey_stats.php?...Mr%20D%20H%20Dunsdon...Mr D H Dunsdon is a better than average Jockey on the turf. Backing all his runners to a £1 stake has returned a loss of £-2 (-10%)

Question is, what does that say about the average jockeys!!

A truly hideous ride by an incompetent clown (at  best).

Learnt an expensive day never back a horse trained by Gifford or ridden by Dunsdon.

Expensive lesson ^^^^

If that ride had been given by a Barney trained horse they would have received the maximum possible ban.
The "Old School" clearly still rules.

That right,racingstar ?

When was Barney last banned iyo ?

When did one of  Barney's receive a ride like that,Flyingbolt?
In answer to your question,I believe it was when Bradley taped a conversation with Barney about his ride On Robin Goodfellow and "grassed" him to the Jockey Club.
Ban overturned after Barney threatened legal action.

If memory serves it was Barney who complained to the Jockey Club about Bradley's ride on Robin Goodfellow.
Barney was nothing to do with the horse(trained by Toby Balding)....he'd backed it.

have they given up on the 40 day ban for horses,cannot remember the last one.

and Barney's horses used to receive rides like that on a regular basis when he had that clown Declan Murphy riding for him.

Just watched that again.

Unbelievable how they can get away with that

Flyingbolt,
We are going over old ground here.
Barney backed it and the price kept going bigger (most unusual).
Bradley ran it into most hurdles and got the job done for whoever was Laying it.
The rest was how I told it.

suprised he got the horse pulled up after the line, went for a gap he knew he wasnt gonna get threw and then coming to the line switched the horse to the outside when he knew it was too late. horse had the pace to lead from the front in his bumper win but today dunsdon made sure he was well back. will be interestin to see him nto.

if he doesnt win next time out i bet he'll be alot more handy when the handicap mark arrives but handicapper shud react and give him 130 to slap it up them. was really taken by this horse in his bumper win last year but i detest incapable jockeys riding there daddys horses and not giving the horse a chance to reach its full potential. He done the same with Joly Bey came swinging numerous times and hadnt the minerals to finish the job. JP Magnier is candidate numero 2, amount of class bumper horses he rid and messed up on through lack of jockeyship. barry connell gets alot of stick but at least he had the decency to step aside when they went hurdling. JP on Rhinestone was a joke. horse finished in the coral cup still on the bridle ffs.

a connection had a lumpy bet with me, but expressed his concern about the jockey.

just watched the race -let me make this clear when i back something if i think its done its best and it gets beat i just take it on the chin but when you see rides like this it makes me wonder why the fick i bother

The lad has been riding for a number of years. He's always been useless.
Struggling to believe that there are so many on these threads who seem totally unaware of this.

Heres one that will makw you laugh ................ http://www.bha.org/inside_horseracing/about/whatwedo/disciplinary/whyranbadl...