BOOKMAKERS ACCOUNTS RE I.P. ADDRESS. HELP NEEDED

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whats the point, a few bets down the line and ....

count ive sent you a private message.

cracked house. That sounds great, i will take a look. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Delta is correct.
These days, if you show just an inkling that you know what you're doing,your account is heavily restricted within days.
The game is gone I'm afraid.

bagga0,  I'm going to sound dim, how do I access your message.

thecount - you are assuming its the ip address thats the problem and not your betting activity. Yoiu could alos use a dongle like 3G, it produces a different ip address every time you log on.

Yes i will need to restrict the use and amounts on these new accounts and try not to take early standout prices,which I have done in the past.
It will be good to have an alternative to Betfair again for however long it lasts.

my advice is to either use the dongle or just have phone accounts , phone accounts are harder to trace for obvious reasons

It isn't just your IP address, they put all sorts of things on your computer google
" iesnare "

use betfair on your main pc, have a cheap bog standard secondary pc or laptop next door with a 3g or t-mobile dongle plugged in it.

lol bagga0

check Daves reply , as it is not just your ip , it is also if you use same computer , 365 are hottest at tracking this, they also go to the lengths of linking accounts via social network etc .

thats why they ask for your passport, for age verification and also to cross reference agst Facebook and Twitter photo to link accounts between friends and family

you are wasting your time trust me...if u are not playing the girley whirley machines u wont be able to get 2 bananas to 1 banana on the horses.

more likely it is simply your betting patterns they don't like.
i tried new laptops, dongles, public wifi. none of it made any difference with the majority of firms in my experience.
the risk controls in place are very rigid now.

its not the IP addy they are finding ou by, as 99 percent are dynamic, its your mac number they are logging and thn connecting counts to, just use the phone, different pay and go sims for each account.

Can you hide your mac address in the same way you can hide your IP address?

http://www.hide-my-ip.com/hidemymacaddress.shtml

thanks mover - but is that necessary or even possible as it says you need to substitute your mac address with that of another computer on the network????
Is it more important to hide your IP address than your mac address?

Anyone got any updates to this?

use a cheap throwaway laptop with WIFI (you can pick these up for about a ton on Fleabay), add a USB broadband dongle at about a tenner a month (different IP every time you log on), when you are finished with a set of accounts then just nuke the laptop (complete hard drive reformat and windows reinstallation) and start over.

Jun 5, 2016 -- 8:53AM, Desert Pilot wrote:

Anyone got any updates to this?

OP hasn't posted for 4 years, so the probability of you getting an update on his cunning plan is fairly remote imho

His new account was closed down in Dec 12

"more likely it is simply your betting patterns they don't like.
i tried new laptops, dongles, public wifi. none of it made any difference with the majority of firms in my experience.
the risk controls in place are very rigid now."

What Northanlite says seems to hold true for me now these days.  It doesn't seem to matter what you do, it's all about the bets you have and the prices you take and when you take them.

I opened 6 accounts with the same firm on my iphone. Either I have found the answer or Betway couldn't be arsed to check.

I opened 6 accounts with the same firm on my iphone. Either I have found the answer or Betway couldn't be arsed to check.

Adds support to the view it is the pattern of bets that is crucial -- not the device or IP address. As an experiment, use three of the accounts to place the same arbs and see what gets closed.

arb! How dare you suggest that.

Good idea, I do of course have "always block cookies" activated, and clear out the cache before opening an account, to wipe out any possible traces from ny last account.

If it IS the pattern of bets, that is good news.

The good thing is, after 14 years on here (cannyman originally) I still find it worthwhile to pay for a new bank card.

I have opened accounts in family member names using VPN to hide IP address and had them shut down pretty quickly on some occassions. I wonder if they know a VPN is being used or consistently betting from multiple IP addresses is a sign that it is an account they don't want. I now use a smart phone to place bets using a pay as you go sim. Only used for betting and nothing else done on phone. These accounts are being given a fair chance.

Have you noticed Hills are happy to take some decent bets of late, Sultan? Much improved from my recent experience.

I have no controll of any Hills accounts currently. But I have had some decent bets put on for me on step sons account. Betvictor seems to be best for taking bigger bets .

That surpises me. I have always classed BV to be almost the worst.

Betvictor was the one bookmaker I was losing too in my own name. Got cases of wine at Christmas invites to private box at Royal Ascot. Wined and dined at Victor Chandler chase day. Fantastic service and got what ever I wanted. Even when back in front still got big bets on. Eventually closed down. 2 subsequent accounts both allowed bigger than normal bets before closure .

Normally, never have any problem with BV or 365 for the amount I normally want on ie £50-£100. Coral normally pretty good, 888 part bet taken, rest referred to trader then normally excepted. All other accounts either restricted, closed or effectively closed. Even though BV & 365 take the full amount I want I still try & split the bet up. There's quite a few of the lesser known bookies I haven't opened accounts with after the hassle I had with BetDim trying to get my money off them.

Sorry, excepted = accepted

Well, I can honestly say, sultan, i;ve had about 15 accounts with BV or VC as they were, and the longest lasting one was a month. Obviously I'm taking stand out, or joint stand out prices. Therein lies the problem.

kenny mann    06 Jun 16 14:18 
I opened 6 accounts with the same firm on my iphone. Either I have found the answer or Betway couldn't be arsed to check.

If you end up with 6 losing Betway accounts then they are more than happy about that. Have one or more winning accounts and/or try to make a decent sized withdrawal from any of them once in profit and that's where you could have problems, seeing as it's already likely they have linked the accounts or will do some time in the future.

So this is where they are out of order because if they have already linked them then they want the best of both worlds by waiting to see if they make money from them, yet could already tell you the score as soon as they made the link and ban all or all bar one account of your choice from placing bets.

I can't remember if they were losing accounts or not, ima. I mainly opened them as they were offering very decent free bets, £100 initially. All I know is that I didn't lose out whether they were losing or winning accounts.

Good luck to you then kenny mann and I mean that in a genuine way, but I've heard stories where bookies have linked accounts but still took bets for all of them, yet as soon as they were winners, not only did they block any withdrawals and confiscated winnings but also kept all initial deposit money too. 

What made it doubly worse for those people was that whilst they had used the free bets to ensure a profit by laying them on here too, once the selections won they had to pay out to whoever they were matched with on here, yet were denied access to their winnings by the bookie that would have covered those liabilities on here and let them keep the difference as profit.

Yet what do you think would have happened had the bets lost with the bookies and the lay stakes went into their accounts on here once the bookies had link those accounts? Do you think they would have refunded those losses and deposits due to the accounts being linked?

TBH, I think they're like Stan James. They dangle fancy prices in front of you and get offended when you avail yourself of them.

Why do these type threads constantly come up? Can't people win on the exchange or would they rather have the insurance of BOG and are frightened of taking a price that might get bigger and they have no recourse?

This thread is 4 years old.

McCoy There is no liquidity in early prices on Betfair nowadays so you do need a couple of bookies accounts if you want to play a big price in the morning.  I've been closed down or restricted enough to take some drastic action so by gambling occasionally in the casino games it is possible to keep accounts in play you just have to accept you are giving some money back.

I'm not a "nit," I have a gamble on the slots every so often and have a football bet or take up bookies non racing offers, maybe that's why some of my accounts are still open despite them being winning ones. What I meant was, why haven't people adapted their betting and accepted that they are not going to get early advertised prices and moved their money/betting over to the exchanges instead of constantly moaning about account restrictions or closures? I'm in the early stages of trying to do this myself.

"Can't people win on the exchange or would they rather have the insurance of BOG and are frightened of taking a price that might get bigger and they have no recourse?"

Try getting a bet on a rugby league or rugby union match on here outside of the world cup or 6 nations the day before the game and you have no hope.  This problem of bookies not taking a bet at advertised odds is an issue across most sports, not just horse racing.